breast cancer to liver

Hiya everyone

 

I got diagnosed with triple neg breast cancer back in September and have had the lump removed and a few lymph nodes ,the lymph nodes came back clear and i am now waiting to start chemo. The chemo has been cancelled less than 24 hours before twice now because something about hgb levels and high liver function and now the oncologist wants an ultrasound on my liver ,his exact words were I don't want to say it has spread to your liver but ...... very helpful  my question is can it spread to the liver without infecting the lymph nodes I was wondering if anyone knows

  • Hello buffynoodles

                                  l was in two minds to post this response since this would not be what you wanted to hear.Breast cancer cells can break off of the original tumour and travel through the bloodstream to the liver.Typically they do not cause symptoms and are picked up through blood tests.

           l hope you get some clear answers back from your tests shortly since the waiting can be the wopst time,

              david

  • Hi David

     

    Thank you for your reply. 

    It's OK I was just told earlier in the treatment that if it hadn't got to the nodes then it wouldn't be anywhere else so I was just surprised when the oncologist said yesterday 

  • Hi Buffynoodles,

    I know it's almost impossible, but my advice would be to try to hold on worrying too much until you get a proper diagnosis.

    I may be wrong, as I am not medically trained, but I think there might be other things that can affect liver function and hormones etc. Perhaps one of the nurses might comment on that?

    Distraction can be a useful way to deal with the time between appointments. Planning fun things and keeping busy, surrounding yourself with people who love you and who will handle it if you cry.

    Wishing you all the very best, and keeping everything crossed here that you will get reassurance at your ultrasound appointment. Please do let us know how you go.

    Huge hugs,

    Mary

    x

     

  • Hi Mare

     

    Thank you for your reply

    It's just so hard to keep positive, normally people describe me as high spirited but the news just keeps on getting worse ,first it was just a small white spot but don't worry, then it is  cancerous but don't worry because it's manageable, then oh it's  triple neg but don't worry it's only small then it's chemo but don't worry it hasn't got to the lymph nodes so hasn't travelled and now it may have got to your liver. It seems one thing after another and this is all before the chemo even. 

    I know that there are people worse off than myself and I am sorry for venting but I am single and don't live with anyone so i don't really know who to turn to but again thank you for your reply, I know you are right

  • Hello buffynoodles,

                                 Sorry to hear you are having a longer journey with your visitor, but good to hear your oncology ,team are all over it. It would be good if cancers came to one spot and just stayed there, annoyingly they do like to go travelling and delay doing so which leads to a scenario that you describe and l have gone through, so l well understand how frightenly frustrated you can feel. Fortunately my visitor went on holiday to my liver from my bowel, which meant surgery and chemo/radiotherapy gave me a cure.

    After an often physically traumatic journey of four yearsl am now well out on the good side.l thankfully realised from an early stage that l could do nothing to alter the diagnosis and could only potentially affect the subsequent outcome, sol was determined to give the the cancers effects no assistance whatsoever in any mental way at all. For me early acceptance that it might prove fatal was the key,and from there on everything was positive.

    l Am sorry to hear that you live alone and it is important to have help and support around you. l discovered my local Maggies centre that was located in the hospital grounds that l received my treatment from.Since l live on an offshore island l was housed in a residential block whilst undergoing chemo ect,and the centres are a place of both immense tranquility and huge support so l would reccomend you find if ther is one in your area from their website.It helped so much to pull me through and really made the difference, but you should see for yourself,

                                                                         Best wishes,

                                                                                                David

  • Hello again,

    Yes it is hard to stay positive. I totally agree!

    I think that "general" positivity hasn't helped me at all. The sort of positivity I have learnt to embrace over the years whilst living with my cancer is the sort based on actual fact. When I feel the panic rising, the terror taking over, I try to focus on the actual facts. Usually the worst of my worries are those when my imagination takes over and I forsee terrible scenarios in my minds eye. Sometimes I cannot stop it happening, but usually now I can stop myself and ask myself what of those things is actual FACT? And usually, I have jumped the gun and am worrying about things that may not come true.

    Having said that, I think it is essential that we allow ourselves to express those feelings. It is important to have a vent for the upset, and not to feel bad about it.

    This site is fabulous for letting those feelings out! You can speak openly under an alias; people here have had brushes with cancer, and most of us truly understand. There are a whole bunch of help lines which I would urge you to turn to as well. I have used them before and they really did help me get through the worst times. I have made friends on here too and it helps me to chat to people who are struggling because I struggle in exactly the same way. I find that people who haven't experienced cancer don't quite get (nor should they) it even though they try. so I find comfort and safety in knowing there are people here who understand me.

    I hope you find some comfort here. It has helped me very much. Always happy to chat.

    Mary/Mare xx