Possible asbestos in home has been disturbed, not realised

We have artex ceilings in the hallway and under stairs. Survey report on house said asbestos may be present. For some reason, we never followed it up. The ceiling under the stairs has been disturbed from accidental knocks to it and where it was partially broken already, it crumbled more because of these knocks. I remember once breaking a part of it away, and it crumbling, before thinking I should stop, as it would be a pain to re-plaster. We even drilled into the ceiling to install a smoke alarm once. 

A recent conversation made me think I should check the report on the house, which I have tonight. It's an old Victorian house, and that is when I saw again that there is a risk if asbestos in these ceilings. We will be getting an asbestos specialist in immediately to find out for sure. We have lived here for a year and a half. The ceiling was disturbed between a year and 6 months ago. 

I know all might be ok, and only the specialist will be able to tell and then the GP can provide further medical advice, but I am now quite worried and I am just looking for some reassurance. If it is asbestos and we have well and truly breathed it in on two occasions, and then lived in it for a further 6 months - year, is this length of exposure a severe risk or low risk? I have tried searching for answers on how long the exposure has to be before it is harmful, but have only got vague responses of 'many years', but maybe it's not known. If anyone does know from experience or knowledge, I'd be very grateful for your thoughts.

Thank you.

  • Offline in reply to Drem

    Hi @Drem I see that you’ve posted on another thread too. Please take the time to read through all the comments here  to get some reassurance about what you are going through just now. I was worried sick a couple of months ago but the posts on this forum helped me to get some perspective and rationalise what had happened and move on from my worrying. It will take time but you will get there too. 
    Look for threads I posted on as there are really helpful comments from people who had the exact same worry and panic as I had, and you have just now. Reading those and staying away from online searches helped me so please try to do the same. 

  • Offline in reply to Westie_5

    Thank you for yor attention.

    I have a filling that i didnt done enought . But i will read in this forum and stay away from google . I hope your advice will help me and my wife .

    Thank you!!!!

  • How are you doing now? I am also petrified.. my partner sanded our artex ceiling a year ago and only just realised we and our baby were exposed to the dust 

  • Offline in reply to Jak99

    Hi Jack, my partner sanded down a whole swirly ceiling.. I’ve read your helpful posts about scraping but does the same apply to sanding? The dust clouded the room and we did a shoddy job of clearing up and slept in that room that night with our child. I wish I knew about asbestos in artex at the time 

  • Hi I’m sorry you are worrying about this. From what I understand the amount of asbestos in artex is a very low percentage. Artex the main manufacturer of textured coatings stopped adding asbestos in the 80s so depending on how old your artex was it might not even contain it. It’s not easy but please please don’t let this worry get the better of you. I did and the stress was awful, probably did me more harm than any amount of asbestos I’ve breathed in so far will do. 

    I read this online and it helped massively 

    The majority of people who contract asbestos illnesses are generally individuals who were exposed to very high levels of asbestos daily at work. That exposure almost always continued for decades and those individuals were almost always smokers.

    Keep in mind that we are all exposed to low levels of asbestos in the air we breathe every day. Ambient or background air usually contains between 10 and 200 fibers for every 1,000 liters (or cubic meters) of air. Despite that, only an incredibly low number of people are diagnosed with asbestos-related illnesses every year. Whether a person goes on to develop an asbestos-related disease depends on a range of circumstances or exposure factors. These include the level and duration of exposure, length of time since first exposure, the fiber type, and past and present exposure to tobacco smoke and other carcinogens.

    Ultimately, the odds that you will contract an asbestos-related illness due to exposure to asbestos in your home is almost zero. A very small number of asbestos-related disease cases indeed occur each year in people who have not worked with asbestos products. The low number of cases makes it difficult to determine the exact cause of the disease or which asbestos exposure was the contributing factor.

    You'll often hear that there is "no safe level of asbestos exposure" and that is certainly true. It's also true that there is no safe level of cigarette smoke exposure or alcohol consumption - and both, of course, are also carcinogens. We know that the vast majority of asbestos illnesses are not the result of limited exposure such as yours and certainly not the result of a single asbestos fiber. Some studies actually suggest that it may require millions of fibers but we simply have no way of knowing at this point. Most studies of the causation of the disease suggest that the likelihood of a disease occurring in any individual is influenced by multiple factors including heredity as well as acquired susceptibility and environmental exposure. In the case of mesothelioma, a person with high, long-term exposure may face a one in 10 lifetime risk of the disease. On the other hand, most of us, with very low or incidental exposure, have about a one in 1 million annual risk. You are in the latter group.

    More telling is the fact that there are no studies that have found an increased risk for lung cancer or mesothelioma at asbestos exposure levels below 0.1 f/cc (the current OSHA permissible exposure limit).

    www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/.../

    So no, your fear is not justified. You will certainly die from something, but it won't be asbestos. Anxiety is a much, much higher risk so try to let this go. Remember that approximately five million deaths worldwide are attributable to mood and anxiety disorders each year. However, there are only about 30,000 mesothelioma cases reported globally per year (3,000 in the US).

  • Offline in reply to Gabby262

    I’ve spent quite a lot of time reading posts and information on this forum about asbestos exposure. Like many others, I was trying to find a situation similar to mine because I wanted to understand what happened and, honestly, to see if I had completely ruined my life.

    After reading a lot, this is the advice I would give to anyone who is going through the same thing:

    1. Understand what actually happened.

    Try to understand your own situation rather than assuming the worst. Asbestos exposure doesn’t automatically mean you are going to become ill or that your life is over. There are many factors involved, including the type of asbestos, the amount of exposure and how long you were exposed. Reading other people’s experiences, such as Jak’s post, helped me put things into perspective.

    2. Take your life back.

    What’s done is done. You can’t go back and change what happened, and constantly thinking about it won’t change the past. I know that’s easier said than done because I’ve been there myself, but at some point you have to allow yourself to move forward.

    3. Remove the things you can control.

    If you smoke or vape, seriously consider stopping. Don’t give your lungs another unnecessary risk. There are things we can’t control, but there are also things we can do today to look after ourselves better.

    I’m not a doctor, and this isn’t medical advice. If you’re worried about your child, speak to your GP. They can discuss your concerns with you and arrange whatever support or assessment is appropriate if needed. I’m just sharing what I’ve learned while trying to understand my own situation.

    From everything I’ve read, asbestos-related diseases generally develop over a long period of time, often many years or decades after exposure. That doesn’t mean exposure should be ignored, but it also doesn’t mean that one incident automatically means you are going to get sick.

    At some point I realised that life is unpredictable. You can spend years worrying about something that may never happen, while life is passing you by. You could worry about asbestos every day, but you could also walk outside tomorrow and get hit by a car. That doesn’t mean you should stay inside for the rest of your life.

    I’ve learned my lesson. I’m taking the precautions I can, looking after my health and trying to move on.

    What’s done is done. Learn from it, take care of yourself, and take your life back.

  • Thank you for this 

    my problem is I think my situation is worse because of the amount of dust that it created! I’m worried it’s still in the carpet.. hoover.. aircon unit a year later and I’ve been redistributing asbestos every day.  It’s torture 

  • Offline in reply to Drem

    Thank you for taking the time to reply.. 

    I completely agree with all you’ve said. I need to move on my brain just keeps trying to assess the situation “how much danger were we in” “what’s the danger now.. is there still asbestos dust in our bedroom”.  

  • If you’re still concerned, you could consider having an asbestos air test done to see whether there is any ongoing airborne contamination and whether any further action might be needed.

    Air testing and professional decontamination can be quite expensive, so it’s understandable that not everyone will want to go down that route. However, if the cost is manageable for you, testing may give you some useful information and, hopefully, some peace of mind.

    Whatever you decide, stay safe and look after yourself.