Possible asbestos in home has been disturbed, not realised

We have artex ceilings in the hallway and under stairs. Survey report on house said asbestos may be present. For some reason, we never followed it up. The ceiling under the stairs has been disturbed from accidental knocks to it and where it was partially broken already, it crumbled more because of these knocks. I remember once breaking a part of it away, and it crumbling, before thinking I should stop, as it would be a pain to re-plaster. We even drilled into the ceiling to install a smoke alarm once. 

A recent conversation made me think I should check the report on the house, which I have tonight. It's an old Victorian house, and that is when I saw again that there is a risk if asbestos in these ceilings. We will be getting an asbestos specialist in immediately to find out for sure. We have lived here for a year and a half. The ceiling was disturbed between a year and 6 months ago. 

I know all might be ok, and only the specialist will be able to tell and then the GP can provide further medical advice, but I am now quite worried and I am just looking for some reassurance. If it is asbestos and we have well and truly breathed it in on two occasions, and then lived in it for a further 6 months - year, is this length of exposure a severe risk or low risk? I have tried searching for answers on how long the exposure has to be before it is harmful, but have only got vague responses of 'many years', but maybe it's not known. If anyone does know from experience or knowledge, I'd be very grateful for your thoughts.

Thank you.

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  • Hello, I've just found this and I am in a similar but maybe worse? Situation. 2 years ago I was in my old house and it had a huge damp/puddle problem in the kitchen. 

    The floor was made of old terracotta tiles, above that it looked like there used to be floor tiles as there was the glue and some possible backing paper left over, then there was a a layer of self levelling concrete. Now because the floor was literally a swimming pool, I pulled up lots of the concrete and the glue and paper backing over a period of 8 months. Now due to stupidity, ADHD, fibromyalgia and pure laziness sometimes I hoovered (bad idea) and sometime I didn't because I knew I was going to come back to it. I lived with this dust for 8 months without ever knowing it could be asbestos. I'm not too worried about the original chipping away as the floor was so wet then, but it did dry out and then the dust would be free. I eventually saw a Reddit post where someone sanded old asbestos floor tiles and then made the connection and panicked, I got the glue and paper and concrete tested and the glue and the paper had chrysotile in. I'm absolutely terrified I've given my self and my partner a death sentence, in 20-30 years and I'm even wondering if there's any point trying to build up a pension anymore. Sometimes I can't sleep or eat for the stress sometimes I'm crying and a mess sometimes I'm fine for months and don't think about it all but it always comes back.

    Right now I've a similar issue in my new houses kitchen but not as bad(what may be asbestos tiles) that are ripped and exposed. I've sealed these with PVA but I'm still concerned but not as concerned as I was about the past exposure.

    Id really appreciate if someone could give me some reassurance or even just information. I've done far too much googling and there's only results for "1 day exposure" or "I worked in the trades for 30 years".

  • I’m really struggling with this at the moment and it’s possibly a major exposure. My husband  pulled down half of our ceiling without realising the concrete that also came down could contain asbestos. From what I’ve read it’s likely a high percentage (up to 85%) and possibly blue or brown as it’s an old house. I’m absolutely terrified for him

  • How are you doing now? I am also petrified.. my partner sanded our artex ceiling a year ago and only just realised we and our baby were exposed to the dust 

  • Hi I’m sorry you are worrying about this. From what I understand the amount of asbestos in artex is a very low percentage. Artex the main manufacturer of textured coatings stopped adding asbestos in the 80s so depending on how old your artex was it might not even contain it. It’s not easy but please please don’t let this worry get the better of you. I did and the stress was awful, probably did me more harm than any amount of asbestos I’ve breathed in so far will do. 

    I read this online and it helped massively 

    The majority of people who contract asbestos illnesses are generally individuals who were exposed to very high levels of asbestos daily at work. That exposure almost always continued for decades and those individuals were almost always smokers.

    Keep in mind that we are all exposed to low levels of asbestos in the air we breathe every day. Ambient or background air usually contains between 10 and 200 fibers for every 1,000 liters (or cubic meters) of air. Despite that, only an incredibly low number of people are diagnosed with asbestos-related illnesses every year. Whether a person goes on to develop an asbestos-related disease depends on a range of circumstances or exposure factors. These include the level and duration of exposure, length of time since first exposure, the fiber type, and past and present exposure to tobacco smoke and other carcinogens.

    Ultimately, the odds that you will contract an asbestos-related illness due to exposure to asbestos in your home is almost zero. A very small number of asbestos-related disease cases indeed occur each year in people who have not worked with asbestos products. The low number of cases makes it difficult to determine the exact cause of the disease or which asbestos exposure was the contributing factor.

    You'll often hear that there is "no safe level of asbestos exposure" and that is certainly true. It's also true that there is no safe level of cigarette smoke exposure or alcohol consumption - and both, of course, are also carcinogens. We know that the vast majority of asbestos illnesses are not the result of limited exposure such as yours and certainly not the result of a single asbestos fiber. Some studies actually suggest that it may require millions of fibers but we simply have no way of knowing at this point. Most studies of the causation of the disease suggest that the likelihood of a disease occurring in any individual is influenced by multiple factors including heredity as well as acquired susceptibility and environmental exposure. In the case of mesothelioma, a person with high, long-term exposure may face a one in 10 lifetime risk of the disease. On the other hand, most of us, with very low or incidental exposure, have about a one in 1 million annual risk. You are in the latter group.

    More telling is the fact that there are no studies that have found an increased risk for lung cancer or mesothelioma at asbestos exposure levels below 0.1 f/cc (the current OSHA permissible exposure limit).

    www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/.../

    So no, your fear is not justified. You will certainly die from something, but it won't be asbestos. Anxiety is a much, much higher risk so try to let this go. Remember that approximately five million deaths worldwide are attributable to mood and anxiety disorders each year. However, there are only about 30,000 mesothelioma cases reported globally per year (3,000 in the US).

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  • Hi I’m sorry you are worrying about this. From what I understand the amount of asbestos in artex is a very low percentage. Artex the main manufacturer of textured coatings stopped adding asbestos in the 80s so depending on how old your artex was it might not even contain it. It’s not easy but please please don’t let this worry get the better of you. I did and the stress was awful, probably did me more harm than any amount of asbestos I’ve breathed in so far will do. 

    I read this online and it helped massively 

    The majority of people who contract asbestos illnesses are generally individuals who were exposed to very high levels of asbestos daily at work. That exposure almost always continued for decades and those individuals were almost always smokers.

    Keep in mind that we are all exposed to low levels of asbestos in the air we breathe every day. Ambient or background air usually contains between 10 and 200 fibers for every 1,000 liters (or cubic meters) of air. Despite that, only an incredibly low number of people are diagnosed with asbestos-related illnesses every year. Whether a person goes on to develop an asbestos-related disease depends on a range of circumstances or exposure factors. These include the level and duration of exposure, length of time since first exposure, the fiber type, and past and present exposure to tobacco smoke and other carcinogens.

    Ultimately, the odds that you will contract an asbestos-related illness due to exposure to asbestos in your home is almost zero. A very small number of asbestos-related disease cases indeed occur each year in people who have not worked with asbestos products. The low number of cases makes it difficult to determine the exact cause of the disease or which asbestos exposure was the contributing factor.

    You'll often hear that there is "no safe level of asbestos exposure" and that is certainly true. It's also true that there is no safe level of cigarette smoke exposure or alcohol consumption - and both, of course, are also carcinogens. We know that the vast majority of asbestos illnesses are not the result of limited exposure such as yours and certainly not the result of a single asbestos fiber. Some studies actually suggest that it may require millions of fibers but we simply have no way of knowing at this point. Most studies of the causation of the disease suggest that the likelihood of a disease occurring in any individual is influenced by multiple factors including heredity as well as acquired susceptibility and environmental exposure. In the case of mesothelioma, a person with high, long-term exposure may face a one in 10 lifetime risk of the disease. On the other hand, most of us, with very low or incidental exposure, have about a one in 1 million annual risk. You are in the latter group.

    More telling is the fact that there are no studies that have found an increased risk for lung cancer or mesothelioma at asbestos exposure levels below 0.1 f/cc (the current OSHA permissible exposure limit).

    www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/.../

    So no, your fear is not justified. You will certainly die from something, but it won't be asbestos. Anxiety is a much, much higher risk so try to let this go. Remember that approximately five million deaths worldwide are attributable to mood and anxiety disorders each year. However, there are only about 30,000 mesothelioma cases reported globally per year (3,000 in the US).

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