I was diagnosed with Cancer in March and although we knew it was Cancer its still a shock to be told it. I have had 2 chemo cycles now and have my 3rd at the end of the month. I would love to chat about the chemo side affects to anyone..
This is exactly the same article that I found on my google search but on a different website. On further investigation I found an analysis of the article which questions the existence of Richard R.Vensal D.D.S. as a cancer expert.
The thing is, lots of other foods provide the same nutritional benefits and more besides, so emphasizing one particular vegetable over all the other health-promoting foods available is surely counter-productive. Generally speaking, medical experts recommend a diet high in fiber, fruits and vegetables and low in fats and nitrates for optimal resistance to cancer. At the risk of stating the obvious, it should also be noted that dietary measures ought never to be regarded as a substitute for proper medical diagnosis and treatment of any disease, especially cancer.
So I'm thinking this is a bit of internet quackery, I have asked about this type of thing with our oncology team in the past, and the advice is you should just make sure you have a healthy diet. If there is a miracle cure out there you will soon hear about it from more mainstream trusted sources.
I tried to send you the article but they wouldn't let me ... I know what your saying but for me at this stage with my tumours not shrinking then if they told me to eat house bricks I would do. ( prob not good for the old teeth though ha ha ) It also has so many vitamins in it and I do love it. ( apart from smelly urine ) I eat really good and do eat my other veggies as well.
Yes, I got the link to the article before the Mods deleted it. Nothing wrong at all with eating asparagus and no doubt it is good for you, but I got the impression that the article was written by an asparagus grower with a vested interest in the sale of his product. As there are other veggies that have similar if not better properties, I thought you may want a variety incase you got sick of the sight of asparagus. I would not recommend eating bricks however, they do not count as one of your five a day LOL!
I am just as bad though, I have got Mary back on the Liquid Iron Formula as I'm convinced it did her some good last time. I remember looking up all of the ingredients in the formula on the internet and guess what? For just about every ingredient, you can find an article claiming how good it's cancer fighting properties are. Again like you, I thought well it can't do any harm so it's worth persuing, trouble is Mary hates the stuff!! so I feel bad giving it to her, but because she responded so well to treatment last time, I wonder if the formula had anything to do with it, probably not but you don't know for sure.
Anyway, Mary had a good day today, we went to visit friends for a coffee and stopped off at the pub on the way back for lunch. Only a diet coke, she hasn't had a glass of wine since Christmas and that's very unusual for her. She has just popped into town with my daughter, probably overdoing it and I expect I will be heating up the wheat bag for her tummy again when she gets in.
I was concerned you may take my post the wrong way, I'm so glad you didn't as I was trying to be helpful. Hope you are feeling ok and that all goes well for you and Mary on Thursday.
Just wanted to wish you well for your next chemo tomorrow! (I'm doing it now as I can never remember the time difference between UK & US - ignoramus that I am!)
Sorry Ladies it's me again back to vent because there is nowhere else I can do this. I have to be strong for Mary and for our family and friends, trying to keep things as normal as possible, because I will just crumble from too much fuss and kindness from friends.
We had a pretty good weekend but I guessed it would all come crashing down at some point! Mary was not feeling great this morning and had a planned visit from the Hospice nurse this afternoon, lovely lady, she has been a few times before but I'm not sure if it's good for Mary or not. I thought maybe it gives her a chance to get stuff off her chest that she may not want to speak to us about, but I'm not so sure now.
Well, Mary let her read her letter from the hospital to the doctor (which we get copied on), and although she was really nice, Mary thought her expression showed concern that her condition was far more serious than Mary originally thought, although she didn't say that. Too much technical jargon in the letter for us to understand, and not sure we want to know, just get on with treatment and hope for the best. The Oncology team seemed quite relaxed about it all at the hospital, of course cancer is always serious but you always have to believe and trust that you may have a chance of being cured.
So we had a lot of tears this evening, I cancelled my planned squash game so I could stay at home to support her. She say's the nurse is coming again next week and I feel like calling her and telling her not to bother, as she will probably just upset her again somehow.
I am finding this really tough at the moment, I know you have all had your share of low points too, and I know there are plenty of people who are worse off, just wanted to get it off of my chest. I know my (grown up) kids are worried too, we are all trying to put on a brave face and keep things normal, sometimes you feel like you need a shoulder but you don't want to burden anyone with your troubles.
We have a big family holiday planned in June, flights booked to Florida, now I'm wondering if it's going to happen!
I really hope this Chemo on Thursday makes her feel better, otherwise I dread to think what will happen next!
Anyway, thanks if you have read this and I hope you are all feeling as well as you can do under the circumstances.
My heart went out to you reading your message, you do seem to be carrying a lot of troubles on your shoulders and need to talk to someone so who better than us lot...Can I ask why a nurse from the hospice is calling on Mary, I myself would feel quite alarmed to be honest if someone came to see me. ( Or is she a friend as well )
I think you should take a few steps back and think that when Mary was first diagnosed how you coped and when the treatment started how things improved. You even managed a holiday abroad something I have always felt too weak / ill to do. So whatever is in the letter remember the Dr's don't always get it right and their are lots of people with cancer that are still here when they really should not be.
They are still giving all of us treatment and until the day comes when they say I am sorry but we can't do anymore then we will fight it. I have had 5 cycles of chemo my last on the 13th Jan only to find out that it hasn't worked. I have to start another 6 cycles of a very aggressive chemo and I am dreading it, but I am doing it because I don't want to die just yet.
So John take each day as it comes and wait and see what happens, and please try and take it easy as you won't be helping Mary if you become ill from stress.
John, Eileen has said almost exactly what I was going to say - you cannot take it all on your shoulders or you will be heading for a breakdown and where would Mary be then? By all means be strong for your closest family, but surely you are allowed to cry on a good friend's shoulder, why do you have to be strong for everybody?
Of course you can always let it out here, but we can't hold you and give you a hug, unfortunately - though I'm sure we all would if we could!
I think today must have something about it, as I haven't felt very well either, nor has my partner.
Tomorrow is another day, John, as the saying goes.
Sorry to see your not very good today, what is wrong ? xxxx
After I sent John that message last night, I thought after was I to blunt in saying it. But he works and looks after Mary so in my opinion he is taking on far to much. As you say he needs a hug. He should go for a few glasses of wine with a friend male / female and offload. I was telling my partner last night in bed and he said yeah I know how he feels, he agreed with with me. My partner is new and we have only been together 9 months but he is the most amazing man I have ever met. He makes me laugh and treats me like a queen but I know it is hard for him to see me suffer so god only knows how John feels as him and Mary have been together for years.
Jackie we need your help so hurry up back online. She is the wise old ( even though she is the youngest )
Anyway Hazel keep warm today and hope your feeling better soon.
I'm not so bad today, thanks - it's just that now and then my poor old squashed bowel won't work properly ( I think you know the feeling?!) and I get so bloated that everything is pressing on everything else and the pain is quite bad non-stop until I can go to the loo again. I sometimes wish I never had to eat again so that my insides could have a good rest! Anyway, I"ll try to stick to a liquid diet today - Complan, soup etc - which is almost as restful for the old insides, but I do like my food so it's a blooming nuisance!
Re. your message to John, I do think he needed to be told to let go a bit - typical bloke, has to try to be strong, when no true friend would mind if he let it all out now and then and had a good cry.
Have you decided whether you will go for your new chemo on Thursday? I really, really do hope you're feeling well enough, Eileen - keep us posted, anyway.
