EMOTIONAL SUPPORT FOR RELATIVE - DAD BEING VERY FATALISTIC AFTER BEING DIAGNOSED WITH ADVANCED PROSTATE CANCER

Hello. I wonder if anyone can advise me on how to help improve the mindset of my father who was recently diagnosed with advanced prostate cancer. Unfortunately he has become quite fatalistic,

He was diagnosed earlier this year after his health deteriorated very badly over a short period. Essentially, he'd dealt with the immediate symptoms of his cancer by reducing his fluid intake to the point that he became badly dehydrated and, in turn, malnourished. It was at this point, when his immediate health was very poor, that we finally got him to the doctor. It turns out he had been ignoring symptoms for two years.

The bad news is that his cancer has spread to the bone and is incurable.

The good news is that eating and drinking properly -  together with hormonal therapy - have improved his immediate health greatly. He is close to his old weight again, is alert mentally and can walk a reasonable distance without getting exhausted or out of breath.

However he is incredibly fatalistic.

For a start, he continues to confuse the fact he was told his condition was incurable with being told it was terminal. The doctor who gave him his diagnosis - and I was with him - made it clear that many people live with controlled prostate cancer for many years and may well die of something else.

The hormonal therapy is certainly proving beneficial. However the patient imagines that the fact that an operation or chemo has not been discussed so far as meaning that he is a lost cause. I think this may be because he is from a generation where cancer could not be treated in the way it is now.

The initial invitation to hormonal therapy was a battle. He didn't realise what he was being offered at first and imagined it to be purely palliative. However he now seems very happy to get his monthly injection.

Still every fresh piece of news or invitation for a scan or biopsy is proving a battle. He tries to find excuses not to go like a child trying to avoid the dentist. Once we get him to go, he is happy that he went. But going through this process every time is difficult. 

Similarly he told me today he'd had bad news - his first biopsy had shown that the cancer was advanced. That wasn't bad news. It was merely confirming what he was told 4 months ago.

The hormonal therapy has helped him enormously and I'm sure this and, perhaps, other treatments can help improve his immediate health and prevent the cancer from progressing. However I really wish I could turn his mindset round - end the fatalism, help him see how his health can improve and that he can live with prostate cancer for a long time. Can anybody suggest anything?

Just to be clear, all the information he has been given has been clear. Rather he's hearing what he wants to hear or finding the negative in everything. I tactfully suggested exploring cognitive behavioural therapy but he was having none of it. 

Thank you. 

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  • My wife has been exactly the same with her ovarian cancer diagnosis which has now been confirmed as being terminal. She had been behaving in an irrational manner in a childish like manner and was constantly obstructive by asking what would happen if she did not follow an instruction. Unfortunately, she also had that fatalistic mannerism where she had been constantly researching online not only for cures and treatment but also looking for ways to take her own life by suicide. Every single day, she gad kept on saying that she did not want to be around and had entered into this self destruct mode, particularly with overdosing on her prescribed medication as well as damaging medical equipment like PICC lines and catheters that she had been fitted with. She had also turned into a narcissist showing no compassion for anybody else's feelings and it had got to the stage where I had to seek legal advice on a divorce as I could not live under the same roof as her. It may sound callous and cruel to had pursued this route but for anyone accusing me of that is ignorant of the hell that she had put not only me but my two daughters through. We had been accused of causing her cancer and for not making her go to the GP even though she had refused before the diagnosis just brushing it off as IBS symptoms despite them being persistent which is usually an indication that something is not right. Yes, I am going to miss her when she does succumb to the ovarian cancer but I kind of feel that I have already been through the grieving process as the person that she was had already passed away. I am now bracing myself knowing that it is not if but when we get the notification that she is no longer around.

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  • My wife has been exactly the same with her ovarian cancer diagnosis which has now been confirmed as being terminal. She had been behaving in an irrational manner in a childish like manner and was constantly obstructive by asking what would happen if she did not follow an instruction. Unfortunately, she also had that fatalistic mannerism where she had been constantly researching online not only for cures and treatment but also looking for ways to take her own life by suicide. Every single day, she gad kept on saying that she did not want to be around and had entered into this self destruct mode, particularly with overdosing on her prescribed medication as well as damaging medical equipment like PICC lines and catheters that she had been fitted with. She had also turned into a narcissist showing no compassion for anybody else's feelings and it had got to the stage where I had to seek legal advice on a divorce as I could not live under the same roof as her. It may sound callous and cruel to had pursued this route but for anyone accusing me of that is ignorant of the hell that she had put not only me but my two daughters through. We had been accused of causing her cancer and for not making her go to the GP even though she had refused before the diagnosis just brushing it off as IBS symptoms despite them being persistent which is usually an indication that something is not right. Yes, I am going to miss her when she does succumb to the ovarian cancer but I kind of feel that I have already been through the grieving process as the person that she was had already passed away. I am now bracing myself knowing that it is not if but when we get the notification that she is no longer around.

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