Hi Serapine,

Sorry, I can't relate to any of the supernatural stuff but Charlie "Bird" Parker is one of my all time musical heroes. Your Mum obviously had good taste :-)

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Zoot off the Muppet's Electric Mayhem Band was a big fan (I guess Frank Oz was too) and may have pointed many of us born in the 50s and 60s in the right direction :-)  

Cheers

Dave

Hi dave i thought it was all a load of rubbish till it happend to me . Your a clever guy where does the energy go when we die the scientist say energy cannot be destroyed or made so were does it go ??  I know we use religion as a crutch but to me i dont beleive it was coincidence that man the universe just came into being .i dont beleive in god either i think we are all part of something we dont have the mental capasityto work out .paul

Hi all ...

Just wanted to say, this thread was started in good faith ... this thread is not about religion... it is up to everyone to believe what they believe ...  but it was meant to bring a bit of comfort to others whod had a little sign ... so we have somewhere where we can chat about it ...

It's sad that it's going off thread lately .. if any one has a grievance or something else to say, maybe it would be better to start a new thread ... please all think... it's not about weather suicide is a sin or not ..  it's not for us to judge .. so let's get back to what this thread was started for ...

Chrissie....   

Is that not just what I’m saying that religion doesn’t matter 

Yes agree as we get older we pick uo wisdom or some do many things we beleive and stand by when we are young as we get older seem less important as we age i read an artical they asked people over 65 what there main regrets were and the biggest answer was the regret was they worried so much about things that never happend

This thread is getting way too personal ... let's get back to what it is started about .. not religion... why bring religion in to it at all ..

I love that statement my big sister used to say this to me all of the time before she passed suddenly also 2 years ago and she was so right 

I actually didn’t someone else did and I made a point religion doesn’t matter ????

I was not making any point. Just chatting about my experiences and agreeing everyone is different and has their own beliefs.

Thank you so much for replying.

I wasn't affected so much with being young.

But when my mum gets upset about her dad she always mentions her friend. It's such a shame. I've seen holiday snaps of the pair of them and she was a bridesmaid at my parents wedding.

But that's what she believed was right.

Yes, all change getting used to a new school. Good luck with your youngest starting infant school. Fingers crossed x

Thanks again. 

Paul I completely agree with you.  I don’t believe the universe just happened,  whatever it is it is something beyond our mental capacity.  I’m not particularly religious either. But a human body is amazing. That’s not coincidence either 

when my mum died we played her favourite song to her and we had it at her funeral. My son on his first day at big school said he went into his first class and the teacher was playing the song. It’s an old Elbow song 11 years old. Not particularly current or popular a strange choice for a teacher to play to secondary school kids 

a week before mum died I feather landed on my lap and I had the strangest feeling that mum was very ill. My mum at the time just had a bad back. She died very suddenly a week later from a metastasised cancer she didn’t know she had. About two weeks after she died a robin sat next to me I was so startled I took a photo. 

The night after mum mum died I had the most vivid wonderful dream of her. I’ve not had one like it before or since.  In the dream she looked happy and healthy and was wearing a pink jacket.  She hugged me so tight. One of the things we couldn’t do in the hospital because of the pain in her back. On the day of her funeral we went to her and dads house and a pink jacket was hanging up. I asked dad. Have I seen that jacket before? . He said no she had just bought it but never got the chance to wear it.    I also smell her all the time. Just wafts now and then.  

when my mum died we played her favourite song to her and we had it at her funeral. My son on his first day at big school said he went into his first class and the teacher was playing the song. It’s an old Elbow song 11 years old. Not particularly current or popular a strange choice for a teacher to play to secondary school kids 

a week before mum died I feather landed on my lap and I had the strangest feeling that mum was very ill. My mum at the time just had a bad back. She died very suddenly a week later from a metastasised cancer she didn’t know she had. About two weeks after she died a robin sat next to me I was so startled I took a photo. 

The night after mum mum died I had the most vivid wonderful dream of her. I’ve not had one like it before or since.  In the dream she looked happy and healthy and was wearing a pink jacket.  She hugged me so tight. One of the things we couldn’t do in the hospital because of the pain in her back. On the day of her funeral we went to her and dads house and a pink jacket was hanging up. I asked dad. Have I seen that jacket before? . He said no she had just bought it but never got the chance to wear it.    I also smell her all the time. Just wafts now and then.  

My signs from dead relatives and pets: many dozens of dreams about them, hundreds of coins and banknotes found on the floor (also a few gift cards and other valuables), sometimes a feeling of uplifted mood, coincidences and lucky events (e.g. thinking about a music album and then finding it in an unlikely shop).

In one dream, my mother said that she'd had another baby.  I asked my father (still alive) about it and he said that she'd had an early-stage miscarriage in 1976.  I knew nothing about it before.

In another dream, my father (now dead) built a music school in the shape of a square ring.  Two years later, the music school where he worked was extensively renovated to form a square ring shape.

In July 2005, I was at home in Wales for my mother's funeral and the clear-up afterwards.  On 7th July 2005, there were four terrorist bombings in central London, very close to where I work.  I avoided the bombings and the ensuing disruption by being in Wales, so Mum protected me even in death!

Hi Beach45. 
I just read your post. So sad. Your mum looked very kind in your photo. I found your dream very moving. Definitely a sign. The bit about the music is a message too. I often dream of my mum. Some are vivid. But usually she's annoyed with me!!! But i don't care. She's often leaving me in dreams. I've sometimes woken up with tears in my eyes. My cheeks have been wet. But that's what you get when yo love someone. 

This may sound weird to others but when we found out that my mum was terminally ill, I asked her that when it happened and she passed away, if she could give me signs that she’s ok which she said she would. The reason why I asked, for the most part was because I wanted to know if she was ok when she died but also because I was curious to know if there is anything after life. It’s simply hope for something bigger that drives us to believe there has to be more and in essence I’m the type of person that although spiritual, takes things for how I see them and doesn’t read too much into things.

Well, I honestly believe there’s something after here. The morning before my mum passed, my brother was stroking her hair and said he thought that although she was still breathing, she’d gone mind and spirit and only her body was remaining, so I said if that were true, give us a sign. Literally a second or so after saying that, a window cleaner at the hospice, started washing the windows of her room from below with a telescopic pole. Now this itself doesn’t sound like much but my mum was a stickler for washing her windows at home and due to being immobilise the last few months of life, she couldn’t wash them but wouldn’t let us wash them either and would often complain in jest that she’d die before she got a chance to wash them again! 

Another sign I got was in a dream a few days after she passed. We were on a unfamiliar street chatting and the pair of us were in dungarees. Now I’m known to wear dungarees anyway, they’re comfy but my mum wouldn’t have worn them in life, she was that little, she probably would have got mistaken for a child!! Anyway the day after, my aunt came to mine to show me some pictures of my mum that she had in an old album that I’d never seen before, one of the pictures was her pregnant with me, in a pair of dungarees! 

Wednesday last week, the day of her funeral, I was sat at the front and just as I was about to go up and give the eulogy and said in my mind ‘if you’re here, show me’ and just as I stood in front of the pulpit, the sun streamed into the chapel right on to my mums coffin as if a spot light had just come on because I was about to speak of her. Everyone gasped and then laughed, it completely turned the mood around which I know she would have wanted. 

I suppose they’re signs that only myself and family members could take as comfort but I genuinely think there has to be more to death then just the final breath.

Hi have you maybe thought and ive said this to otheres that you saw your mum in dungarees if there is your mums not going to be seen as being ill but younger .and healthy and at a happy time in her life .the bodys just flesh but what makes it run is energie and energys there till the begging till the end of time so all that love and thoughts cant just blip out of exsitance i had all sorts of wierd things electrical disturbinses warnings you feelings of warmth like my partner was cuddling me from behind not a touch a warmth it was so comforting i dont get it now as they cant cant round us forever that would be wierd but i beleive they stay for a while and in truth how could we ever truly find out or we would all want to go there to soon so yes i totaly believe .best wishs .paul

Hello Beach45,

Sorry I don't often come on here but I just read your post and it is so sad I thought I should reply.

How are you doing now, I haven't read through the rest of this discussion so you might have replied. My wife died last year and it is really a struggle every day just to carry on, but I know I have to do it. 

I hope you are coping somehow. Stay strong.

Chris x 

Hi Paul,

I firmly believe that when you die, you go back to the best part of your life. Like when my dad passed away, I dreamt about him and he looked so much younger than I could ever remember (baring in mind he was 40 when I was born). I liked to think after death, he went back to a time when he was his happiest and I think the same of my mum (now that I’ve seen the picture of her pregnant in a pair of dungarees) as she often said how much she wished for and wanted my brother and I (she had multiple miscarriages and was told she couldn’t have children). So I like to thing she went back to the best time of her life in my dream and was wearing dungarees as a sign.

Absolutly the energy which is us does actualy stay till the end of time thats not my oppinion its science states that so ergo there you go we both think the same glad you agree about your dreams parants younger i mentioned that to anothere they had never thought to look at it that way your not not the only one to dream that way ime 65 if i was going i would want to be at my heathiest not like i am now  hope my liz is that way and free from pain a great comfort to dream that dont you think theres more in this universe that we will ever understand or are ment to crumbs they dont even know how half the drugs work ive just been in hospital with sepsis i dont think they know fully how to treat that they just kept me on same antibiotic untill i asked for a diffrent one .regards paul