Tonsil Cancer - Whirlwind Week

Hi All 

Firstly Hats Off to the NHS in Wales, they have been super amazing since my diagnosis on New Years Eve. Thank you all 

The title of the post is Whirlwind Week and this is why:

New Years Eve I have a phone call from ENT confirming tonsil cancer.  Very apologetic confirmed over the phone.  Wants me in for a biopsy.   Later the same day I get calls from ward team and covid test centre booking appointments.

Monday 4th January i have a covid test at 9.30am. Results back same day, negative for Covid19.  On route to test centre call from pre assessment team asking me to go in straight after my covid test for my biopsy pre assessment.   Forgot to mention biopsy booked for 7th January. 

Tuesday 5th January have an ultrasound at 9.30am and an MRI ar 11.00am.  The ultrasound was an external ultrasound of my neck. They decided to take two needle biopsies of lymph nodes which took some doing as the nodes were so solid they couldn't get needle in... Thank goodness for local anesthetic :)

From ultrasound they decided to send me for a 3d scan of my jaw.  This was done primarily in case I need any teeth removed pre radiotherapy treatment.  Apparently radiotherapy can cause your back teeth to crumble.  Don't panic not everyone has this done.  i believe it totally depends on size, position of tumour and the amount of radiotherapy you need.

After the jaw scan I went straight for my MRI.  Think I  had two 10 minute sessions,  the second 10 with dye injected into my blood.  I had also had this done for a CT scan on 18th December.

Wednesday 6th January day off.  Which I used to eat as many nice things as possible :)

Thursday 7th January 07.30am its minus 4 degrees c and I'm back at the hospital with my overnight bag ready for another biopsy, I was told to expect to be in hospital overnight.  Due to covid we have to wait at the entrance.  Just 3 of us, asked lots of covid related questions and temperature checked before being escorted to the clean ward.

The ENT surgeon comes to see me to explain the procedure.  Remember everyone is different.   So for me they are going to remove the good tonsil and send it for tests.  What? Not the bad tonsil?  The reason for this is because when you have cancer in one tonsil it is pretty much a done deal that you will get itin the other.   Also by leaving the cancerous tonsil in it allows for more treatment options.  If they cut it out there will only be one treatment path.

During the tonsillectomy they also took biopsies of my bad tonsil and my tongue.   After the op ENT told me that it would take about 7 days for the results so they expect to be calling my Wife and I in a week on Wednesday. 

I was allowed to go home as long as I had eaten something, drunk something and had a pee.  I was home by 7pm the same day.

Sunday 10th January its 6am and I am sat in bed writing this post.  Next to me is a glass of water which I sip all night, my 6am pills and a lip balm.  My bottom lip took a battering during surgery and is very swollen and sore.   The cancerous side of my throat and shoulder is still painful and the right side is even more painful from the tonsillectomy.  Even my lymph nodes seem to be complaining  :)

But you know what, I don't feel sorry for myself,  I don't feel sad.  I'm going to lose weight, but hey I'm 5ft 6inch and 13 and a half stone (male) i could do with shedding a few pounds ;) 

I know this is just the start of a long hard journey,  but I'm ready... bring it on I say!

  • Well so'n'so's law i fell asleep before the end of the film.  And chemo waa soon finished.  Went a lot quicker than I had imagined it would. 

    Straight to radiotherapy,  load more gumph for the folder lol  only in there about 20 mins, machine hardly makes a noise and they had some good tunes playing.  Mask is now a bit more snug due to hardening.

    On way home now for a much needed cuppa.  Heres hoping the journey back is better than the one here...  Thank you for sending your sunshine over by the way....  its a joy to see that rare ball of flame.

     

    Al

  • Thanks for the invite guys.

    So you've read my post previously I guess.

    I had my meeting today at the hospital. I'm not going to lie my emotions are very much all over the place. 

    So I'm stage III and HPV+. However I've had the affected Lymph nodes and surrounding tissue already removed leaving what they're saying a T2 sized primary in my tonsil. (The nodes were my primary symptom)

    Told ill be starting Chemo/Radio in about 3 weeks. With 1 dose on Day 1 and another in week 3.

    I'm working atm to control emotions. Been prescribed some Sertraline which has helped I think and possibly not in others as I think my levels of Seretonin are all over the place!

    Been tough on my partner as well. Been blessed with having lots of people around me.

    One spark of good news was that my teeth were fine and don't need any work. 

    Told a number of factors will hopefully go in my favour with age and HPV Status. 

    Strange thing is I'm so wanting to survive this for the sake of my family but with everything coming its so hard to visualise. 

    Being in the Ambulance Service for 13 years I developed coping mechanisms after stuff I've dealt with but those mechanisms become totally useless when it's you who's ill.

    Ready for a night's sleep I think. 

    Sam

  • hahaha love your notes i am living your day!!! 

    glad you got some sun makes all feel better! 

    well it was my birthday today - getting older by the minute but despite this insisted i still had to do my one job a day so out came the extendable paint roller and calico dulux to paint the spare room wall. now bearing in mind it is a single bedroom should have been easy but when the handle kept sliding the roller towards my hand or flipped it over to one side so i was painting another section of wall you can imagine the swearing ...... 

    anyway since i have all day to do my one jobs it didnt matter and it now looks good - consequently the roller has been thrown out the window! 

    tried a chocolate muffin for tea as a kind of birthday cake and nbearly choked on it decided not a good one for the throat. shame was looking forward to a decent amount of chocolate. oh ice cream came will let you know what the piggie tastes like .. 

    hope your not too tired after your adventure today 

    take csre

     

  • Hi Sam

    really nice for you to join our talk. We aim to discuss everything so other people can read and know what to expect and hope., 

    it is a very worrying time for all and there is so much information to take in and tests to do etc you have hardly time to gather your thoughts. My friend Al will tell you that. 

    it is also really interesting comparing strategies for treatment in each case and this will help other people too. 

    there are several things but i think the important thing is hope never give up on hope. As you said age is on your side and also being HPV+ (having better success rate). Make sure you get plenty of rest so you dont get too axious. Mind you if you canget over operations like you have then you must be pretty good already. I also get very anxious when i have any tests and my blood pressure rises lol. 

    involve your partner as much as possible he will need your support as much as you will need his, even though it is you having the treatment bleieve me it affects partners as much in every aspect. having the love there will help. 

    whatever support we can give you we will gladly. 

    rest easy 

     

  • Hi Guys

    Hope your both doing ok. 

    Had my covid jab today arm feeling little heavy and am feeling tired but otherwise fine. Glad i have managed to get it. Hubby was having hius so as care etc etc managed to have a spare and gave it to me. 

    Al - hope your not too tired after your first chemo and radiotherapy. I hope your feeling ok. 

    Sam hope your ok.

    Hoping my results have come through and are being discussed as its wednesday and MSD discussion day. - fingers crossed am getting fed up feeling like this now. 

    keeping occupied as usual but also getting fed up have decided am c... at skirting boards !!! will take ages to get done. bummer. 

    take care 

  • HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY!!! (21 again)  :happy:

    Its so sad that you could not eat your cake.   We have decided that once treatment is over, it should coincide quite closely with lock down restrictions easing and the first warmth of the summer sun, we will make up for all lost time, celebrations, food, drink, family and friends then.

    Looking forward to the report on your ice cream.  Here's a bit of info from a food  leaflet I received from radiotherapy...  Do not eat ice cram straight from the freezer, allow to warm up at room temperature for 10 mins.   Apparently very cold or very hot isn't great for throat cancer.  Fortunately I prefer my icecream sat in the bowl for a few mins.

    Sorry not been on here for a couple of days, I've just been so blah since Monday, very guggerly tummy and bad acid reflux which had me up from 1:30am on Tuesday.  Already fed up with the regime of pills, postions, creams, mouthwashes, traveling etc.  And it's only half way through week one lol.  I will say though both chemo and radio staff have been absolutely amazing, nothing is too much effort for them.

    To be honest directly after Mondays treatment I was on a high, I think from the fact that the fight had truely started, my turn to fight back against the Big C.  After a couple of hours of being home the colour just drained out of me and fatigue hit, as did the gurrgly belly.... Oh poo (not literally)!  They sent me home from chemo with two different lots anti sickness pills.  Steroid ones 4 to be taken each morning after breakfast for 3 days after chemo, and then some back up pills in case the sickness really kicked in.  Ironically, after taliking to radio on Wednesday, it turns out that I wasn't on the verge of being sick, I was suffering bad reflux from the steroids.

    It's now Thursday, last day of the steroids.  No reflux last night, but really do not feel like eating this morning, yet I have to... Not just to keep my weight in check but to be able to take the meds.  Chemo also gave me a thermometor to check my temp daily.  I do have one but they wanted me to use theirs.  My blood counts will be at their lowest from yesterday, hopefully start rising agian tomorrow.  This is the most important time for extra hygine and acoiding touching anything that may carry infection.  Even having to wash my hands after stroking tne animals, and with four animals that require stroking thats a lot of hand washing during the day lol.

    Once a week with the radio I have a review, the first was on Tuesday.  The review is a time for them to give you info, meds, any kind of help.  But you can rquest to see them any day.  On Tuesday I was givien more gumph for my folder a mouth wash that I have to use four times a day and cream for my neck which has to be applied twice a day.  I also have to cean my teeth twice a day with Duraphat which is a prescription high floride toothpaste and I have these small brushes that I have to clean between each tooth for 10 seconds twice a day....  I am going to move into the bathroom I think LOL!

    Believe it or not I do feel quite happy today.  The sun is out and although I have no interest in food I and my body is technically at its lowest eb for the week I strangly feel better today than for the previous 3.   Soon be the weekend,  no treatment at weekends means we get weekends back yay!

    Anyway that is enough of my rambles.  How are you?

    My wife loves painting walls, but hates skirtings. doors, windows etc.  I fortunately am totally the oposite, I love all the gloss painting.  I love the cutting in, must be the artist in me.  It's really good that you are doing it though, doesn't matter how long it takes.  The sense of acheivment after is well worth it, don't you think.

    Ahh!  nearly forgot, thank you so much for welcoming 'samsamtheambulanceman' to the thread :happy:  I saw his post after I invited him, but did not have the energy to reply.  I will difinatley try and get aroung to that later.  If you are trading this Sam, sorry I have not replied to you yet.

    I am so glad that you received your covid jab, which one did you have?  We did think it strange that unpaid carers were quite low down the list.  I mean whats the point in me having it, when my primary carer can't, if she got ill with covid we would both be..  well words that i cannot use here lol.  Although Wales have said that they are moving them up.  Hows are you feeling post jab?

    Wednesday must be the national MDT meeting day, they meet here on Wednesday too.  I had my call the following day (which for you would be today) so fingers toes and eveything crossed for you.  Thinking of you.

    Anyway you haven't got time to read this, there are skirting boards that need painting... They're not going to do them their selves.

    Stay Posistive

    Al

  • Hi Sam

    So glad that you have joined this thread.  My apologies for not replying sooner, I have been on a really low eb since chemoreadiotherapy on Monday.  I was very happy to see that the lovely Elona had replied to you.

    My Chemoradio is 6hrs Chemo on a Monday, followed by radiotherapy.  And then adtional radiotherapy Tues, Wed, Thurs and Friday.  No treatment at the weekends.

    It is really hard on partners, I think in many ways it is harder for them as that can feel so helpless.  it's very important to get them to talk as they will feel that they can't tell you how they feel, sadly and wrongly thinking that their feelings and thoughts are incomparible to yours.  I only found out myself the other day how scared my wife was about losing me when we knew I had cancer, but didn't know the type or extent.   I will be totally honest with you I was relieved mine is HPV+, there is no such thing as a good cancer, but HPV+ is one of the easiest and most sucesssfull to treat.  Though treatment is nothing short of brutal, you have to keep in mind the alternative is worse.  

    On saying that we are in the process of creating a neck cancer blog, which I am hoping over time will show that each persons journey is different, and as many for who the treatment is difficult, many also go through it with much more ease.  I very much hope that you will feel up to adding to the blog once it is up ad running.  

    Cry as much as you need to, it's a good release.  Never feel like you have to hold it in to protect others or feel that you are being over emotional.  I was so oposite I so wanted to cry, but just couldn't..  I could not find the release.

    Be so glad you ave good teeth...  Having 6 removed pre treatment was hell.  As was the adult tonsillectomy...  It was the good tonsil they removed I might add.

    Having the coping mechanisms that you have procured through your 13 years in the service is good.  But I know from experience of growing up in a medical family that the coping for others is different from self.  Plus too much knowledge can be a weight.  So do not feel that your coping is braking down, it's a differnet kind of coping.

    Even though our cancers are so similar the treatment has been very different.  Elona too has so far had very different treatment.  Hopefully she will be getting her results today, her MDT met yesterday.

    Please do stay in touch and keep us up to date.  Feel free to come on this thread just to rant, or just to chat about anything that's not related to the big C.

    Good luck

    Stay Strong

    Al

  • Been a very up and down sort of week. 

    Hope your Chemo session wasn't too awful.

    Got an appointment today seeing my Nurse. Unfortunately these 30mi trips are very much getting longer by the occasion! Today is discussion on Storage of certain bodily fluids!!! Obviously big risks coming with my fertility. We are also trying for a baby in the hope of not needing them and to be honest. Will provide a big boost to push through this.

    The HPV Diagnosis was definitely a relief in some respects. I understand the odds of a cure are alot better and my family are convinced we're going to destroy this thing that's left but I've almost trained myself for bad news so struggling to see anything but. Not the right mindset to have but it's a hard habit to break after they said 2x the neck growth was a Cyst and was benign. I don't hold any grudge or blame toward anyone because of that because it was the reason the Cancer was found and diagnosed.

    Emotionally its been trying, I'm battling especially low mood during mornings with fear and anxiety of what's to come. Panic has been a fixture in some early mornings before I'm due to wake up admittedly. However, during as the day goes on that does start to go away with the Anti depressants I've been given (again! Something I thought I would never need!!!) I was dieting anyway because my weight has been a long standing issue for a while. In 2 weeks I've shed 2 Stone (I was the wrong side of 150kg!) But partly through eating and drinking better as well as probable stress. Eating hasn't been great in thr mornings either but I'm determined to improve that.

    I had to come off my 2 night shifts this week as I was too exhausted after my MDT. Certain scary things had to be said and I think it played on me alot. I got in the drivers seat at 19:30 and fell asleep until we went out on a job just after 20:35. I knew I wasn't going to be able to do by job effectively or safely so asked to come home.

    The prospect of treatment has me concerned with the effects as well. They went through all the Chemotherapy side effects as well as radio but said with my age I should bare them better. Hope their confidence is justified. They said they're hitting it with 1 type. If I had the neck nodes still that it would be a different story. Or any other mets! Which again thankfully isn't the case.

    Still hoping as well to help myself to radio appointments as they told me it can be done. 

    Taking it a day at a time. Making as much as I can of a normal couple of weeks before we start.

    Hope is there. Smaller than I'd ever hoped if I got Cancer but its there.

  • BLOG UPDATE: 

    I forgot to add this morning that I was gutted that I missed another 24hr offer for 50% off for the year.  But all is not lost... I  sent them an email explaining the importance of getting the blog live and they have sent a promo code which lasts 7 days, so blog should be live by this weekend yay!

    They also had a quick peek at the set up of the pages so far and gave it the thumbs up.... now that's service for you.

    Al

    Al

  • Any news yet?  

    Just remember we're here for you

    Al