Tonsil Cancer - Whirlwind Week

Hi All 

Firstly Hats Off to the NHS in Wales, they have been super amazing since my diagnosis on New Years Eve. Thank you all 

The title of the post is Whirlwind Week and this is why:

New Years Eve I have a phone call from ENT confirming tonsil cancer.  Very apologetic confirmed over the phone.  Wants me in for a biopsy.   Later the same day I get calls from ward team and covid test centre booking appointments.

Monday 4th January i have a covid test at 9.30am. Results back same day, negative for Covid19.  On route to test centre call from pre assessment team asking me to go in straight after my covid test for my biopsy pre assessment.   Forgot to mention biopsy booked for 7th January. 

Tuesday 5th January have an ultrasound at 9.30am and an MRI ar 11.00am.  The ultrasound was an external ultrasound of my neck. They decided to take two needle biopsies of lymph nodes which took some doing as the nodes were so solid they couldn't get needle in... Thank goodness for local anesthetic :)

From ultrasound they decided to send me for a 3d scan of my jaw.  This was done primarily in case I need any teeth removed pre radiotherapy treatment.  Apparently radiotherapy can cause your back teeth to crumble.  Don't panic not everyone has this done.  i believe it totally depends on size, position of tumour and the amount of radiotherapy you need.

After the jaw scan I went straight for my MRI.  Think I  had two 10 minute sessions,  the second 10 with dye injected into my blood.  I had also had this done for a CT scan on 18th December.

Wednesday 6th January day off.  Which I used to eat as many nice things as possible :)

Thursday 7th January 07.30am its minus 4 degrees c and I'm back at the hospital with my overnight bag ready for another biopsy, I was told to expect to be in hospital overnight.  Due to covid we have to wait at the entrance.  Just 3 of us, asked lots of covid related questions and temperature checked before being escorted to the clean ward.

The ENT surgeon comes to see me to explain the procedure.  Remember everyone is different.   So for me they are going to remove the good tonsil and send it for tests.  What? Not the bad tonsil?  The reason for this is because when you have cancer in one tonsil it is pretty much a done deal that you will get itin the other.   Also by leaving the cancerous tonsil in it allows for more treatment options.  If they cut it out there will only be one treatment path.

During the tonsillectomy they also took biopsies of my bad tonsil and my tongue.   After the op ENT told me that it would take about 7 days for the results so they expect to be calling my Wife and I in a week on Wednesday. 

I was allowed to go home as long as I had eaten something, drunk something and had a pee.  I was home by 7pm the same day.

Sunday 10th January its 6am and I am sat in bed writing this post.  Next to me is a glass of water which I sip all night, my 6am pills and a lip balm.  My bottom lip took a battering during surgery and is very swollen and sore.   The cancerous side of my throat and shoulder is still painful and the right side is even more painful from the tonsillectomy.  Even my lymph nodes seem to be complaining  :)

But you know what, I don't feel sorry for myself,  I don't feel sad.  I'm going to lose weight, but hey I'm 5ft 6inch and 13 and a half stone (male) i could do with shedding a few pounds ;) 

I know this is just the start of a long hard journey,  but I'm ready... bring it on I say!

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  • Hi

    I think you are quite amazing. I am going to have a busy few days from tomorrow. I have also been lucky to have an efficient hospital so far. Christmas eve noticed my lump by tuesday had got bigger so went to doctors. 4th January at ENT had nasalendoscopy to find enlarged abnormla tonisl one side hard mass, non painful. Ultrasoiund booked for thursday 14th with aspiration then got cancellation for MRI tomorrow 12th then today get telephone call asking me to have a preoperative appointment for biopsy and panoscopy? not entirely sure on this one but think it is some sort of chest endoscopy., Not worried about MRI have had a few of thiose before, bit worried about aspiration and will be worried when i get date for biopsy. I am supposing that if anything shows on aspiration I may get a call to go in and discuss or wait for biopsy?? consultant said I could get call at any stage. Was not told about the other tonsil possibly getting cancer perhaps each hospital is also different. Let us know how you are getting on,. 

  • Hi Elona

    Welcome to the whirlwind!  I am glad that I am not the only one :happy:

    Thinking of you at your MRI, I too have had a few...  The noise just strangly brings back memories of the 90s raves :laugh:

    Sounds like we are going through pretty much the same at pretty much the same stage.  And luckily both with very efficiant Hospitals.

    I originally went to the doctors back in May 2020 with an enlarged tonsil that had a couple of white patches.  Because it was the early days of Covid and it was a throat issue I had to see a locum in the surgery car park.  She said there was nothing wrong, but may have a bit of thrush.  She subscribed Thrush treatments and away I went...  Obviously the treatments didn't work :laugh:

    I didn't know I was having the good tonsil (only the good one, with biopsy of cancerous one and tounge biopsy) removed until the day of the op.  Didn't even know I was down for a tonsillectomy until I was at my pre assessment.  The Nurse could find no info on the system...  As it turns out there were two perfectly good reasons.  I saw the dental surgeon (One of my MDT members) at my ultrasound and he told me that they were a victim of their own efficiency and that the op could change right up to the moment before I have the anesthetic.  Hence lack of info.  I don't mind, I'm just so impressed with everything.

    What is an aspiration?

    Let me try and put your mind at rest about the biopsy.  I had a fine needle biopsy which was done under local anesthetic.  This was a biopsy of the lymph nodes taken through the side of my neck. I could feel them pushing around, but no pain.  After the anesthetis wore off it was a bit uncomfortable for a day at the most.

    Under general anesthetic I had a deep tonsil and tounge biopsy.  This was at the same time as having the right (good) tonsil removed.  All the staff were brilliant, the surgeons came and saw me pre and post op explaining everything.   Ooh and the bed was soooo comfortable.  I was left with no pain or discomfort from the tongue and deep tonsil biopsy as far as I know.  This may be due to the overall pain and discomfort from the tonsillectomy disguising anything from the biopsies.

    All of my appointments were made via phonecalls or I was sent for a test whilst at the hospital having something else done.  

    How am I getting on?  The throat is still sore from the op, but the pain is very managable.  It's a great excuse to eat icecream  :wink:  I wont lie there are moments of Ahhhrrrggggg!  But they do not last long.  Earache now in both ears Boooo!   I have been living with an invisible condition, for a few years, that causes a lot of unnecessary pain daily.  So me and pain are good ole friends, he is annoying but without him I wouldn't be here (I have no idea why I made my pain male) The trick with pain is to find other, better, happier things to occupy your mind.  Hence I've written so much here, whilst writing this my pain is dampened.

    Keep in touch, as we are in such a similar position.  It'll be interesting to see how our treatment paths differ or assimilate.  It'll also be a good and informative read for others who pass by.

    Take care, be strong

  • Hi Elona.

    12 Hours Earlier...  Well chemo bag is packed, tablet loaded with a couple of films and games (downloaded incase of poor WiFi) and fully charged.  Spare reading glasses, headphones, fruit pastels, meds, tissues and a bit of cash.  My radiochemo suit is washed,  aired and ready to wear...  Whats a radiochemo suit? I hear you ask.  A nice new comfy tracksuit with no metal in it, comfy for the 6hrs of chemo, no metal zips etc so I can keep my dignity through radiotherapy :laugh:

    Alarm set for 6am so I can leave at 7:20 and be on the ward by 8:30am.

    Present Time...  It's 10am and I am sat in a big comfy chair having the first part of my chemo which involves a kidney flush for an hour.  The flush is administered via a drip which is attached to a cannula in my hand.  I have had a plethora of pills which include anti sickness and ones to make me wee... cos I need that.  I have to ask to go to the loo, not done that since infants, as although the machine is mobile it is plugged into the mains. 

    Even though I left home at 7:20am I didn't arrive until 9am!  10 miles of zero to 10mph on the duel carriageway.   Fortunately my nurse and many others here were caught in the same jam. So I don't feel so bad now.  I will update on the progress. 

    Thank you for accepting to help administrate the blog,  it will be a big help.   And thank you very much for your offer to help with the costs,  for now I will decline.  I have plans to make it self sufficient over time.   As soon as I work out how to add you I will.   

    Right really need a wee...

  • Well my first visit to the facilities was a mission, got myself into a right jumble with all the tubes and wires :laugh:

    I have been promoted though, I can now unplug myself without the need for assistance....

  • Another vist to the facilities,  the kidney flush is definitely working :laugh:

    Flush is finished.  They have swapped the bag for the actual chemo, cisplatin (not sure of the spelling)... This bit lasts for two hours, so headphones in and film on.

    Al

  • ... watched around 20 mins of my first film when my nurse came around with a chemo card.  I have to carry it 24/7 in case of emergency. Back to film... 5 mins later nurse is back with home meds.  Back to film... few mins later tea lady arrives,  I opt for coffee and biscuits.   Back to film.... not 5 minutes later sandwich trolley turns up, I go for chicken mayo.  

    Just put my headphones in....  Gotta weeeeeee!

    Hopefully that's it now and l can finish my film.

    How's your day going?

    Al

  • Well so'n'so's law i fell asleep before the end of the film.  And chemo waa soon finished.  Went a lot quicker than I had imagined it would. 

    Straight to radiotherapy,  load more gumph for the folder lol  only in there about 20 mins, machine hardly makes a noise and they had some good tunes playing.  Mask is now a bit more snug due to hardening.

    On way home now for a much needed cuppa.  Heres hoping the journey back is better than the one here...  Thank you for sending your sunshine over by the way....  its a joy to see that rare ball of flame.

     

    Al

  • Thanks for the invite guys.

    So you've read my post previously I guess.

    I had my meeting today at the hospital. I'm not going to lie my emotions are very much all over the place. 

    So I'm stage III and HPV+. However I've had the affected Lymph nodes and surrounding tissue already removed leaving what they're saying a T2 sized primary in my tonsil. (The nodes were my primary symptom)

    Told ill be starting Chemo/Radio in about 3 weeks. With 1 dose on Day 1 and another in week 3.

    I'm working atm to control emotions. Been prescribed some Sertraline which has helped I think and possibly not in others as I think my levels of Seretonin are all over the place!

    Been tough on my partner as well. Been blessed with having lots of people around me.

    One spark of good news was that my teeth were fine and don't need any work. 

    Told a number of factors will hopefully go in my favour with age and HPV Status. 

    Strange thing is I'm so wanting to survive this for the sake of my family but with everything coming its so hard to visualise. 

    Being in the Ambulance Service for 13 years I developed coping mechanisms after stuff I've dealt with but those mechanisms become totally useless when it's you who's ill.

    Ready for a night's sleep I think. 

    Sam

  • hahaha love your notes i am living your day!!! 

    glad you got some sun makes all feel better! 

    well it was my birthday today - getting older by the minute but despite this insisted i still had to do my one job a day so out came the extendable paint roller and calico dulux to paint the spare room wall. now bearing in mind it is a single bedroom should have been easy but when the handle kept sliding the roller towards my hand or flipped it over to one side so i was painting another section of wall you can imagine the swearing ...... 

    anyway since i have all day to do my one jobs it didnt matter and it now looks good - consequently the roller has been thrown out the window! 

    tried a chocolate muffin for tea as a kind of birthday cake and nbearly choked on it decided not a good one for the throat. shame was looking forward to a decent amount of chocolate. oh ice cream came will let you know what the piggie tastes like .. 

    hope your not too tired after your adventure today 

    take csre

     

  • Hi Sam

    really nice for you to join our talk. We aim to discuss everything so other people can read and know what to expect and hope., 

    it is a very worrying time for all and there is so much information to take in and tests to do etc you have hardly time to gather your thoughts. My friend Al will tell you that. 

    it is also really interesting comparing strategies for treatment in each case and this will help other people too. 

    there are several things but i think the important thing is hope never give up on hope. As you said age is on your side and also being HPV+ (having better success rate). Make sure you get plenty of rest so you dont get too axious. Mind you if you canget over operations like you have then you must be pretty good already. I also get very anxious when i have any tests and my blood pressure rises lol. 

    involve your partner as much as possible he will need your support as much as you will need his, even though it is you having the treatment bleieve me it affects partners as much in every aspect. having the love there will help. 

    whatever support we can give you we will gladly. 

    rest easy 

     

  • Hi Guys

    Hope your both doing ok. 

    Had my covid jab today arm feeling little heavy and am feeling tired but otherwise fine. Glad i have managed to get it. Hubby was having hius so as care etc etc managed to have a spare and gave it to me. 

    Al - hope your not too tired after your first chemo and radiotherapy. I hope your feeling ok. 

    Sam hope your ok.

    Hoping my results have come through and are being discussed as its wednesday and MSD discussion day. - fingers crossed am getting fed up feeling like this now. 

    keeping occupied as usual but also getting fed up have decided am c... at skirting boards !!! will take ages to get done. bummer. 

    take care 

  • HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY!!! (21 again)  :happy:

    Its so sad that you could not eat your cake.   We have decided that once treatment is over, it should coincide quite closely with lock down restrictions easing and the first warmth of the summer sun, we will make up for all lost time, celebrations, food, drink, family and friends then.

    Looking forward to the report on your ice cream.  Here's a bit of info from a food  leaflet I received from radiotherapy...  Do not eat ice cram straight from the freezer, allow to warm up at room temperature for 10 mins.   Apparently very cold or very hot isn't great for throat cancer.  Fortunately I prefer my icecream sat in the bowl for a few mins.

    Sorry not been on here for a couple of days, I've just been so blah since Monday, very guggerly tummy and bad acid reflux which had me up from 1:30am on Tuesday.  Already fed up with the regime of pills, postions, creams, mouthwashes, traveling etc.  And it's only half way through week one lol.  I will say though both chemo and radio staff have been absolutely amazing, nothing is too much effort for them.

    To be honest directly after Mondays treatment I was on a high, I think from the fact that the fight had truely started, my turn to fight back against the Big C.  After a couple of hours of being home the colour just drained out of me and fatigue hit, as did the gurrgly belly.... Oh poo (not literally)!  They sent me home from chemo with two different lots anti sickness pills.  Steroid ones 4 to be taken each morning after breakfast for 3 days after chemo, and then some back up pills in case the sickness really kicked in.  Ironically, after taliking to radio on Wednesday, it turns out that I wasn't on the verge of being sick, I was suffering bad reflux from the steroids.

    It's now Thursday, last day of the steroids.  No reflux last night, but really do not feel like eating this morning, yet I have to... Not just to keep my weight in check but to be able to take the meds.  Chemo also gave me a thermometor to check my temp daily.  I do have one but they wanted me to use theirs.  My blood counts will be at their lowest from yesterday, hopefully start rising agian tomorrow.  This is the most important time for extra hygine and acoiding touching anything that may carry infection.  Even having to wash my hands after stroking tne animals, and with four animals that require stroking thats a lot of hand washing during the day lol.

    Once a week with the radio I have a review, the first was on Tuesday.  The review is a time for them to give you info, meds, any kind of help.  But you can rquest to see them any day.  On Tuesday I was givien more gumph for my folder a mouth wash that I have to use four times a day and cream for my neck which has to be applied twice a day.  I also have to cean my teeth twice a day with Duraphat which is a prescription high floride toothpaste and I have these small brushes that I have to clean between each tooth for 10 seconds twice a day....  I am going to move into the bathroom I think LOL!

    Believe it or not I do feel quite happy today.  The sun is out and although I have no interest in food I and my body is technically at its lowest eb for the week I strangly feel better today than for the previous 3.   Soon be the weekend,  no treatment at weekends means we get weekends back yay!

    Anyway that is enough of my rambles.  How are you?

    My wife loves painting walls, but hates skirtings. doors, windows etc.  I fortunately am totally the oposite, I love all the gloss painting.  I love the cutting in, must be the artist in me.  It's really good that you are doing it though, doesn't matter how long it takes.  The sense of acheivment after is well worth it, don't you think.

    Ahh!  nearly forgot, thank you so much for welcoming 'samsamtheambulanceman' to the thread :happy:  I saw his post after I invited him, but did not have the energy to reply.  I will difinatley try and get aroung to that later.  If you are trading this Sam, sorry I have not replied to you yet.

    I am so glad that you received your covid jab, which one did you have?  We did think it strange that unpaid carers were quite low down the list.  I mean whats the point in me having it, when my primary carer can't, if she got ill with covid we would both be..  well words that i cannot use here lol.  Although Wales have said that they are moving them up.  Hows are you feeling post jab?

    Wednesday must be the national MDT meeting day, they meet here on Wednesday too.  I had my call the following day (which for you would be today) so fingers toes and eveything crossed for you.  Thinking of you.

    Anyway you haven't got time to read this, there are skirting boards that need painting... They're not going to do them their selves.

    Stay Posistive

    Al

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  • HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY!!! (21 again)  :happy:

    Its so sad that you could not eat your cake.   We have decided that once treatment is over, it should coincide quite closely with lock down restrictions easing and the first warmth of the summer sun, we will make up for all lost time, celebrations, food, drink, family and friends then.

    Looking forward to the report on your ice cream.  Here's a bit of info from a food  leaflet I received from radiotherapy...  Do not eat ice cram straight from the freezer, allow to warm up at room temperature for 10 mins.   Apparently very cold or very hot isn't great for throat cancer.  Fortunately I prefer my icecream sat in the bowl for a few mins.

    Sorry not been on here for a couple of days, I've just been so blah since Monday, very guggerly tummy and bad acid reflux which had me up from 1:30am on Tuesday.  Already fed up with the regime of pills, postions, creams, mouthwashes, traveling etc.  And it's only half way through week one lol.  I will say though both chemo and radio staff have been absolutely amazing, nothing is too much effort for them.

    To be honest directly after Mondays treatment I was on a high, I think from the fact that the fight had truely started, my turn to fight back against the Big C.  After a couple of hours of being home the colour just drained out of me and fatigue hit, as did the gurrgly belly.... Oh poo (not literally)!  They sent me home from chemo with two different lots anti sickness pills.  Steroid ones 4 to be taken each morning after breakfast for 3 days after chemo, and then some back up pills in case the sickness really kicked in.  Ironically, after taliking to radio on Wednesday, it turns out that I wasn't on the verge of being sick, I was suffering bad reflux from the steroids.

    It's now Thursday, last day of the steroids.  No reflux last night, but really do not feel like eating this morning, yet I have to... Not just to keep my weight in check but to be able to take the meds.  Chemo also gave me a thermometor to check my temp daily.  I do have one but they wanted me to use theirs.  My blood counts will be at their lowest from yesterday, hopefully start rising agian tomorrow.  This is the most important time for extra hygine and acoiding touching anything that may carry infection.  Even having to wash my hands after stroking tne animals, and with four animals that require stroking thats a lot of hand washing during the day lol.

    Once a week with the radio I have a review, the first was on Tuesday.  The review is a time for them to give you info, meds, any kind of help.  But you can rquest to see them any day.  On Tuesday I was givien more gumph for my folder a mouth wash that I have to use four times a day and cream for my neck which has to be applied twice a day.  I also have to cean my teeth twice a day with Duraphat which is a prescription high floride toothpaste and I have these small brushes that I have to clean between each tooth for 10 seconds twice a day....  I am going to move into the bathroom I think LOL!

    Believe it or not I do feel quite happy today.  The sun is out and although I have no interest in food I and my body is technically at its lowest eb for the week I strangly feel better today than for the previous 3.   Soon be the weekend,  no treatment at weekends means we get weekends back yay!

    Anyway that is enough of my rambles.  How are you?

    My wife loves painting walls, but hates skirtings. doors, windows etc.  I fortunately am totally the oposite, I love all the gloss painting.  I love the cutting in, must be the artist in me.  It's really good that you are doing it though, doesn't matter how long it takes.  The sense of acheivment after is well worth it, don't you think.

    Ahh!  nearly forgot, thank you so much for welcoming 'samsamtheambulanceman' to the thread :happy:  I saw his post after I invited him, but did not have the energy to reply.  I will difinatley try and get aroung to that later.  If you are trading this Sam, sorry I have not replied to you yet.

    I am so glad that you received your covid jab, which one did you have?  We did think it strange that unpaid carers were quite low down the list.  I mean whats the point in me having it, when my primary carer can't, if she got ill with covid we would both be..  well words that i cannot use here lol.  Although Wales have said that they are moving them up.  Hows are you feeling post jab?

    Wednesday must be the national MDT meeting day, they meet here on Wednesday too.  I had my call the following day (which for you would be today) so fingers toes and eveything crossed for you.  Thinking of you.

    Anyway you haven't got time to read this, there are skirting boards that need painting... They're not going to do them their selves.

    Stay Posistive

    Al

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