Advance prostrate cancer, that wide spread to the bones

Hi I am new to the forum and looking for advice/support 

recently my husband has been diagnosed with metestic prostrate cancer, the cancer had spread to his bones (pelvis,spine,rib cage,shoulders and sternum). It’s very hard to  process and I’m finding that the doctors are giving no real answers to our questions. 

He has started hormone treatment and chemotherapy, and undergone 1 session of radiotherapy for pain ( the cancer has fractured his L5 spine) his PSA levels have dropped from 2570 to 4.2 which is a good sign. But I am so worried that it being so wide spread that he won’t be able to beat it! Is this me just worrying??  or is he really incurable like they say??  

Having young children and watching them see their dad exhausted and not like daddy is breaking me. 

Has anyone else seen it so wide spread before? Finding myself researching all the time ! Stacey 

  • hi I have just found myself in your position 

    I am a carer and the person I care and look after  as had pains in his left-hand ribs for over a year  been to doctors, walk-in clinics A&E and with him having autism and can't communicate  just given painkillers 

    he lost weight complaining in his way (it hurt) and pointing to the area just under his left rib  was falling asleep all the time hot sweats at night and in the morning in so much pain he could not get out of bed 

    he was referred to Colorectal for the weight loss  had three ultra scans over  say two months  then i was told there nothing wrong down there and the surgeon would discharge him  and said seek a medical doctor for the pain in the left-hand side of ribs  but this pain had gone to his shoulders, arms, buttocks  and right-hand side under ribs  and advised to go back to his doctor   

    one weekend it got so bad he was rushed into A&E again and after the 5-hour wait we were told sorry we can't do anything  said we are not moving till something is done  he went away and spoke to registrar came back and said they would give him a utrascan  results of that was everything was ok  and to go back to doctor in morning  said no we are staying until something is done he went away again came back and asked would he be ok if they did an x-ray on him

    I said let's try (he is Autistic with needle phobia and white coat syndrome)

    did x-ray found fluid  and consolidation on his lung  it was decided he would need to give blood and have a ct scan but it can't be done in A&E but will have to go through the GP about six weeks later  after several meeting (capacity and best interest ) it was decided that it would be done under local anesthetic they did blood's and the ct scan   we went home 

    came back the following day  to be told 

    results were a PSA level of over >20,000 and multiple  bone secondaries and retroperitoneal Lymphhadenopathy 

    he has started  on Bicalutamide for 28 days  they started him on this drug right away  he has been on it three days and what an improvement ( fingers crossed) it may be he having his good days and it comes back but here hoping it will  shrink the cancer and  give him  a few more years 

     he has to go for a bone scan in a couple of weeks time 

    but feel so let down with the way this person who has learning difficulties has been treated 

    sorry for the spelling and grammar 

  • Hi kennybee 

    I’m very sorry to hear this, my heart goes out to your friend. This is too familiar with our situation my husband has been seeing physiotherapist for his shoulder back etc for years. He even passed blood within his pee and they just gave him antibiotics and sent him away. 

    Theyve told us that it’s not curable and everything they do will be to slow the cancer etc but they seem to close down every time we ask too many questions. I know they can’t tell you everything you want to know but I feel a little shocked at how little they do tell you. 

    I was given a form the other day (ds1500) to help support use getting help with financial issues (they have stated he cannot return to work) but it said on the form the the chemo and radio therapy is palliative! Is this what they call it for slowing the process? It’s all left me with too many questions flying around my head. 

    Perhaps I’m looking for too many answers. It’s ripped our life apart 

     

  • I'm not a doctor. However I was diagnosed with prostate cancer in 2010, and I did a lot of researh at that time. I was lucky that my cancer was caught early and I'm still here to tell the tale.

    Most cancers, including prostate, are ranked into four stages, T1-T4.  Early stage cancer, stages T1 and T2, is confined within the prostate and is nearly always curable. I was lucky in that my cancer was stage 2.  Once cancer has escaped but is still within the local area of the prostate it becomes stage T3. This can often be cured, but not always.  When the cancer has spread to other organs, it becomes stage T4 (also called "metastatic"). Such cancer can be controlled for years using combinations of hormone and other therapies, but (to the best of my knowledge) cannot yet be cured. 

    However, great strides are being made in all forms of cancer research. There is a lot of hope that immunotherapy will become a massive game changer, and new drugs are being developed all the time. 

    BTW, don't mix up the cancer stages with the Gleeson grades. Gleeson grades are an indication of how normal or abnormal the cells look under the microscope, with the highest number (5) given to cells that look the most abnormal. The Gleeson grading system requires the pathologist to give grades to the most commonly appearing cells, and then then the next most commonly appearing cells, and write these as two numbers linked by a plus sign, eg. 5+4, with the most common cells put before the plus.  If there aren't enough of the second type of cell then the same number is repeated, eg 5+5.  Sometimes the two numbers are added together, but this information is less useful than knowing the two individual numbers. 

    It might be worthwhile looking at the Prostate Cancer UK website, and joining in their online forum

     

  • Hello I'm new here two I had prostate problems for past 6 yrs two years ago I had thigh pain lower back pain buttocks numb & burning past two years my shoulder & left arm are aching stabing pain wakes me up in arm,stomach ,ribs,told me after X-ray it was arthritis I got a new doc 6 months ago now it's to late trouble down stair & bowl they see you ten minutes throw you out as they are runing late now they are sorry they will be how can a trained doc miss all the singles I all ready had a prostate & bladder op a year past now I have two years @ most to say my good byes same doc told my brother he was fine stress migraine brain timer he died 44 well don't worry be great full for what you have not what you won't have 

    life was great for us but all good things come to a end but we are here for a reason & you won't forget him & im sure he'd won't you to be happy you must be positive keep your chin up for him & the family 

    good luck God bless wired.

  • Hi s7ac3y mine isn't advanced as your husbands but it might give you a better idea, mine is prostate, gone to lymph nodes, spine, ribs, pelvis and a lung stage 4 gleason 8 psa 1581, was diagnosed Feb 2016 been on hormone therapy since, and cemotheropy now and again. Like your husband it's not curable but treatable, hope things improve for you. Best wishes.. Billy