vocal chord cancer (T1) laser treatment, need advice

Have had laser surgery in sept for early vocal chord t1 cancer and was told it was successful but a month ago I had a check up which revealed there has been a reacurrance ( though only small and on the surface) so have had more laser surgery in the hope that will do the trick as the surgeon says its too small to warrant radiotherapy. Has anyone else had this kind of treatment and is this usual?( reacurrance and more lasering). I'm very concerned that this treatment may not be working or that cancer may keep coming back, resulting in radiotherapy and the possibility of eventually loosing my voice box. I know its early days and I'm probably worrying too much but would be very grateful if there is anyone out there who can comment on this.

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  • Hi Zarker

    I had severe displacia of the vocal chords around 5 years ago and was told that I needed laser treatment immediately as it "was very close to cancer". I had laser treatment a few times and had to have biopsies done around every 2 - 3 months but in my case it had gone too deep so they could only laser the surface and it kept coming back. If you are a smoker you should give it up immediately as my consultant told me to avoid smoke at all costs.

    I went on to have larygneal cancer but I was stage T2-3 when I was eventually diagnosed. I was successfully treated with radiotherapy 28 months ago and touch wood everything is fine and my voice is better than it's been for years.

    On a positive note they are closely monitoring you and as you are at a very early stage hopefully they will be able to get rid of it with laser treatment alone.

    I wish you well and hope that the next laser treatment will be the end of it.

    Marion x

  • Hi Marion ,

    Thanks very much for your reply it was most helpful. I hope you don't mind me asking but how long was it from when they found displacia to you being diagnosed with laryngeal cancer? As this is what I think may be happening to me. They said inicially It could be treated with laser alone and after my last laser treatment yesterday that the return was on the surface only and did not warrant rdiotherapy at the moment and he had done deeper biopsys which he says hes sure arn't cancerous. This has as you know been a very difficult time for me as i'm so scared of loosing my voice or having to have a laryngectomy which I've been told is unlikely. i'm reassured to know that after your treatment your voice is now good. Thank you again and I hope you continue to do well. Andy

    p,s gave up smoking 5 years ago and after this will never go back to it!

  • Hi Marion/Andy

    Hope your both well.

    Marion firstly thanks for mail other day. I will reply when I get a spare 10 mins. Life is hectic at moment going from the North to London every week and trying to spend time with Kids at weekend.

    Andy,

    I'm glad your on road to recovery but try not to push yourself too hard. I know you want to get back and you need to work  but don't try and run before you can walk. I am sure your voice will improve but as I told you other week on phone my voice is still improving even now 6 months after my RT and there are dips in it some days. I guess it is a long road to recovery and there will always be times when it is not as good as you hope but try and remember the bad times when you had no voice at all. Things will get better.

    We must sort that drink out soon. I will be in London until the end of May. I am working on olympics at Stratford so on Central line. Can get anywhere in 30 mins so Just choose somewhere to go.

    Speak soon,

    Chris

  • Hi Andy

    Sounds like you've got your clients sorted out and they understand the situation.  Lets hope they do as they're told and won't need you to shout at them ;-)

    It's bad timing that you can't take any new clients on at the moment as this is the perfect time for getting fit post-Christmas but there will be the Spring when people will want a beach body!  I keep meaning to go to the gym but I bought myself a wii fit  ....... must get round to using it though!

    As my photo isn't coming up with my messages, have a look at my profile as it's on that.

    We'll have to get together while Chris is still in London, so let us know when you're feeling well enough as I can go anywhere on the tube.

    Speak soon.

    Love Marion x

  • Hi Chris

    Nice to see you on cancer chat!

    Just replied to Andy about meeting up.  I can do any place, any time, any where (I sound like the Martini advert but don't think you're old enough to remember it)!  It will have to be before end of May so hope Andy will be up to it.

    Email you soon.

    Love Marion x

  • Hi yes would be good to catch up soon, perhaps early march might be good, hopefully my voice will be back by then and and perhaps we can meet somewhere central or convenient for all of us and somewhere not too noisy! I think chris is in london till the  May,let me know what you think, will text chris as well. Saw your pic, very nice! you don't look your age :-) Got mine up too, its good to have a face to the name and we will recognise each other when we meet, hopefully!

    Speak soon

    Love Andy x

  • Hi Andy

    I have a little confession - the photo is a few years old ;-)  I don't think I've changed much since then though and I don't have any recent ones on my own.  It's good to see you too - quite exciting to put a face to a name at last!  I don't know what I've done wrong with my photo as it's not coming up with my messages.  I might try deleting it and uploading it again.

    I'll leave it up to you and Chris to decide when to meet up and I'll go with the flow.  I'm in London anyway so it will be easy for me to come straight from work.  Hopefully you will be feeling much better by then and I'm sure your voice will come back soon. 

    Speak soon.

    Love Marion x

  • Hi Marion,

    Actually so is mine! It was the best one I could find as I don't have too many pics of my self on my own. Things have taken a dip this week, my throat has got sore again and i'm coughing up a lot of gunge, the doctor thinks I may have an infection or an ulcer in my throat so has put me on antibiotics. I was coughing so much last night my neighbour called me to find out if I was alright, have spoken to the hospital who say its the RT still doing its work, i'm getting to the point when I wonder if i'll ever feel normal again! Its strange as everything else feels ok and I really thought up to this week that all that was getting better, still its early days yet I guess.

    I really want to have my voice back when we all meet as it would be great to have a good old natter and a laugh which I can't do too well at the moment which is why i'm delaying things a bit, I hope this is ok with you and chris. I think we al deserve a nice glass of champagne after all weve'e been through! Glad to hear all is good with you.

    Bye for now

    Love Andy

  • Hi chris,

    thanks for your message. you are right I do need to take things slowly, i'm a bit impatient generally and like everything done yesterday and can't bear all this uncertainty as its 3 week since the Rt and my voice is still only a whisper. I was told the otherday that the RT can keep working up to a month after it ends so perhpas this is why there's no change and my throat is very sore still.

    So your working at the olympic site! must be exciting seeing it all take shape, been meaning to get up there and have a look but havent got round to it, will you get tickets for any of the events next year? I think london will be rammed in 2012 especially with the queens diamond jubillee as well, still it will bring a lot of money into the capital.

    Glad to hear your voice is holding up chris and that everything is going well for you, you and marion are living proof there's light at the end of the tunnel. We will definately get together before the end of may, I mentioned to marion about early march as I hopefully my voice will be back by then. Let me know what you think.

    Have a good w/e.

    Andy

  • Hi Andy

    Sorry to hear things have taken a dip. No wonder your voice hasn't come back with all that coughing - imagine how much strain that's putting on your vocal cords plus all the gunge will prevent your larynx from moving freely.  I always get a bit hoarse when I have cough now but I suppose there will always be a weakness there.

    Re the RT still working up to a month after you've finished treatment - my side affects got a lot worse a week or 2 after I had finished treatment and from then on it gradually got better.  It's still early days as you say and I promise your voice will improve and it might just come back all of a sudden and surprise you!  I remember the first time I went to say something expecting to sound like Phylis Pearce and this normal voice came out - I was ecstatic!  At first it came and went until eventually it got stronger.  Even now It still goes a bit hoarse if I talk too much or too loudly.  I went to the Television Awards on Wednesday night and after talking to my friends over all that noise my voice is a bit husky ever since.

    I've accepted you as a friend so we can talk privately about meeting up if you like?

    Hope you feel better soon.

    Love Marion x

  • Hi Andy And Marion

    Love seeing your photo's its nice to put a face to the names  andy i hope you just keep getting stronger and your results are all good when you get them. Marion " Television awards" wow told you ,you looked good it must be the company you keep i am sooooooooo jelous (xx)

    Well love to you both

    Luckyus

  • Hi Marion and luckyus,

    Feeling a lot better this week and on mon something fantastic happened, I answered the phone and to my surprise and delight I started talking!! Although it sounds v croaky something is happening and other people have stared to comment on it. I know its early days but I feel like I may be turning a corner and it has boosted my spirits no end! One of the new trainers at the gym came up to me the other day and said ' hey your speaking, i've never heard you speak before' !

    I'm being cautious though as I know its 1 step up the ladder and I have a long way to go but its a start and i'm so happy! Got my hospital appt next weds so keeping my fingers crossed although not sure what they will do as i havent been given a scan date yet, guess they will have a look with the camera. Will let you know how I get on.

    Hope all is good with you both

    Love Andy

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  • Hi Marion and luckyus,

    Feeling a lot better this week and on mon something fantastic happened, I answered the phone and to my surprise and delight I started talking!! Although it sounds v croaky something is happening and other people have stared to comment on it. I know its early days but I feel like I may be turning a corner and it has boosted my spirits no end! One of the new trainers at the gym came up to me the other day and said ' hey your speaking, i've never heard you speak before' !

    I'm being cautious though as I know its 1 step up the ladder and I have a long way to go but its a start and i'm so happy! Got my hospital appt next weds so keeping my fingers crossed although not sure what they will do as i havent been given a scan date yet, guess they will have a look with the camera. Will let you know how I get on.

    Hope all is good with you both

    Love Andy

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  • Hi Andy

    Must be our week for good news my husband was back at the hospital today and (at least for now) has the all clear again they dont want to see him for another 4 months i hope your appointment is as good as ours so pleased you are getting your normal voice back it is something we all take for granted (until it has gone)

    Must dash just wanted to keep you all posted

    Luckyus

  • Dear luckyus

    I have been wondering how things were going with you.I am so pleased you got good news from the hospital.I went to see them today and they dont want me back for 3 months except for one little ultresound.Maybe this year will be easyer than the last.

  • Hi Andy

    That's really geat news - you must be over the moon!

    You may find that your voice will just get stronger by the day and some days it might take a dip but don't panic as that's what happened to me.  It won't be long before you have your normal voice back to how it was in the days before the dysplacia.  When I went back to work after my treatment everyone was really surprised by my 'new' (old) voice as they had only known me with a husky voice.  A few were disappointed though as they preferred the husky one .  Just look after it now and no shouting!  Funny how we take things for granted - I didn't realise how precious my voice was until I lost it.

    Hope you get on alright at your appointment next week but I'm sure everything will be fine.  Obviously let us know!

    If you hear from Chris let me know when you get a date to meet up.

    Take care Andy, I'm so happy for you.

    Love Marion x

  • Hi Luckyus

    What great news!  You and your husband must be so relieved to have a 4 month reprieve!  Now you can make plans and enjoy yourselves without this horrible fear hanging over your heads .

    Keep in touch and send a personal message any time you want a girlie chat.

    Love Marion x

  • Hi Grumpy

    Three lots of good news at once!  Great that you don't have to go back for 3 months, your onc/consultant must be really pleased with you.

    Hope this year will be a healthier one for you.

    Love Marion x

  • Hey thats great news! Looks like he is out of the woods and will not have to go through any more treatment, you must be very relieved and happy to be able to put this behind you. Thanks for your good wishes.

    Andy

  • Thanks Marion for your positive words it would be truly amazing if I could get my old voice back but have a feeling I may not be that lucky but if I can get enough back so that people can hear me that would be great, I'm txting chris later so will mention we need to pencil in a date for our get together. Really looking forward to it. :-) Will let you know how i get on woth my appointment

    Love Andy

  • Hi Andy

    I still think you will get your old voice back but if it's not the same, then your new voice will be much better than it was over the last year or so.  I'm sure it can only get better now so that by the time we meet up, there will be no stopping us .

    Anyway, have a great weekend and hope you get a date from Chris.

    Good luck with your appointment!

    Love Marion x

  • Hi Marion & Andy

    Thank you so much for your good wishes and continueous support it has really helped me through this when i put my name as luckyus it was 6am in the morning and it was a very sarcastic name now i do think lucky us just hope he stays clear from now on good news is he gave up smoking the day he found out and has not smoked since ( but why oh why did he have to get this first) well thats all for now

    Love from meeeeeeeee

  • Hi Marion,

    Have texted chris and he say's he will leave it to us to set up a date but he can't do w/ends as he has to go home to wife and kids so I was thinking may be a weds night  perhaps weds 2 or 9th of march? Let me know if this might work for you. If your in mayfair perhaps we could find somewhere in the west end as chris say's he can travel in on the tube and I live fairly close to there. Would be good to find somewhere not too noisy so perhaps a restaurant might be good but we can sort that out nearer the time.

    Your're right my voice is getting stronger by the day. Did 5 clients today and met a friend for coffee and have just made a phone call and can still just about speak but feeling tired now so going to rest it for the rest of the eve. It sounds silly to people who havent gone thru this but I feel so excited by the prospect of being able to talk again! It feels like a precious gift but hey its early days yet so one step at a time! Hope you have or will have had a great w/e by the time you read this.

    Love Andy x