vocal chord cancer (T1) laser treatment, need advice

Have had laser surgery in sept for early vocal chord t1 cancer and was told it was successful but a month ago I had a check up which revealed there has been a reacurrance ( though only small and on the surface) so have had more laser surgery in the hope that will do the trick as the surgeon says its too small to warrant radiotherapy. Has anyone else had this kind of treatment and is this usual?( reacurrance and more lasering). I'm very concerned that this treatment may not be working or that cancer may keep coming back, resulting in radiotherapy and the possibility of eventually loosing my voice box. I know its early days and I'm probably worrying too much but would be very grateful if there is anyone out there who can comment on this.

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  • Hi Zarker

    I had severe displacia of the vocal chords around 5 years ago and was told that I needed laser treatment immediately as it "was very close to cancer". I had laser treatment a few times and had to have biopsies done around every 2 - 3 months but in my case it had gone too deep so they could only laser the surface and it kept coming back. If you are a smoker you should give it up immediately as my consultant told me to avoid smoke at all costs.

    I went on to have larygneal cancer but I was stage T2-3 when I was eventually diagnosed. I was successfully treated with radiotherapy 28 months ago and touch wood everything is fine and my voice is better than it's been for years.

    On a positive note they are closely monitoring you and as you are at a very early stage hopefully they will be able to get rid of it with laser treatment alone.

    I wish you well and hope that the next laser treatment will be the end of it.

    Marion x

  • Hi Marion ,

    Thanks very much for your reply it was most helpful. I hope you don't mind me asking but how long was it from when they found displacia to you being diagnosed with laryngeal cancer? As this is what I think may be happening to me. They said inicially It could be treated with laser alone and after my last laser treatment yesterday that the return was on the surface only and did not warrant rdiotherapy at the moment and he had done deeper biopsys which he says hes sure arn't cancerous. This has as you know been a very difficult time for me as i'm so scared of loosing my voice or having to have a laryngectomy which I've been told is unlikely. i'm reassured to know that after your treatment your voice is now good. Thank you again and I hope you continue to do well. Andy

    p,s gave up smoking 5 years ago and after this will never go back to it!

  • Hi Andy.

    I see you have started the radio, its not as bad as they say, like I said you get tired near the end, and I found I couldnt swallow and I got a bit red, my throat got dry but I was told by someone to get artificial siliva spray off the doctor ,it worked a treat also I had a diatician who gave my drinks to take to build me up they were not bad to take.

    When I went for my mask fitting there was a couple of people that couldnt stand getting one made I understand what they thought, I have got mine in the loft. how are you coping with it all. well talk to you again all the best hope you feel better.

    michael.

  • Hi Michael

    Sorry to have left you out the other day but I ran out of lunch break!  Glad to hear you're still doing well.  You made me laugh when you told Andy you have your mask in the loft :-)  I was going to take mine home and jump on it at the end of the treatment but changed my mind as I was sick of the sight of it by the end!

    Hope you keep well and keep posting.

    Take care

    Love Marion x

  • Hi Andy

    Glad to hear you're still okay and focussing on your treatment.  You are wise not to plan ahead too much as you don't know how you will feel at Christmas especially as you will be more than half way through your treatment.  It's rotten that you have to go through it at Christmas though.  This time last year my son was going through chemo for testicular cancer and by Christmas Eve his lovely blonde spikey hair was falling out in clumps so he got a friend round to shave it all off.  It was heartbreaking watching him go through all that especially when all his mates were going out and celebrating.

    I work in Mayfair so it's great to see clear pavements after slipping and sliding my way down a steep hill to the station this morning and very attractive in my wellies!  It's amazing when you just go a few miles outside London and it's like a winter wonderland.  Whereabouts do you work?

    Must go now but keep in touch.

    Love Marion x

  • Hi Marion.

    Yes I kept my mask in the loft thought I might face paint it some time, how are you keeping, I just get on with life at the moment. I am talking to a few friends about there cancers simular to mine and passing on what I went through and letting them know how my day goes, it helps I hope for them to see how my cancer is manageable from day to day after the op. I went to the hospital the other day to talk to radiotherapy doctors to give our point of view about how treatment was, what I should have been told, thinking that we should be shown the radio machine before treatment, ETC. they asked if I and a women who had a different cancer could give a talk, they said it helped them alot to understand how we felt.

    How is the family are they keeping well, cancer affects everbody else as well at home.

    well that is enough of me moaning look after your self.

    michael.

  • Hi Michael

    Need a bit of help again!

    my husbands anger is getting really really quick and oh so vocal (for someone who is struggling to talk) as i am driving in the snow everything i do is wrong his road rage is apawling  last night the boiler packed up and yup it was all my fault i turned the heating off two days ago arghhhhhhh please tell me this is normal.  did you go through this stage.

    Luckyus

  • Hi Luckyus.

    Just got back from blackpool , I think I know what you mean, why is he like this is it because of the treatment he has or will be having. funny thing  the wife and I was talking about the same thing. she says I get bad tempered and shout,( you know what I mean ) its because I get frutrated when I cant get over what I want to say, but as blaming you for everything it is not normal. ask him what is a matter and why it is your fault. my daughters said they had to tell me off for shouting at the wife, and I was bad tempered to her. not being in our position maybe it is hard to see it from our point of view.

    Maybe there is another reason for him being bad tempered, all I can say is ask him why he is like this and tell you what is wrong so you can help, also tell him it is hurting you with what he is saying.

    if he wont say what is wrong how does he expect for you to help and love him, you can only help if you come to a aggrement to sort it out, and it is not helping your marrage if you dont talk about it.

    Let me know how you get on. I know cancer takes people different ways but being in a bad mood isnt helping him to get better.

    michael.

  • Hi Michael

    I knew you would have good advice we are still talking through his fears i have tried to tell him im on his side but the anger blows like a bomb and then 5 mins its over. boiler broke down 2 days ago all my fault as i had the shower now its mended it was the excess cold. i think you are right "walk a mile in my shoes", i cannot begin to know what truely goes through his mind only what he tells me.

    Thanks for the help and another perspective.

    Luckyus

  • Hi Luckyus.

    Remind me what he has had latley, has he had just radio, or a biposy ETC. or is he still waiting for results, I ask this as I talk to a few friends about cancer I dont want to get them mixed up. like I said he may be worrying about his cancer outcome in the future and doesnt want to talk to you about it, I was the same I didnt talk to the wife about it, but that is how I am.

    Is there something that is worrying him that you might need to ask his doctor about, something that he has been told and didnt want to talk to you about. thinking back I didnt think I would have had a major op. like I had, but being better and being able to talk helps a lot.

    let me know how it goes, we all dont want this but there is not a lot we can do, getting help from family needs to be allowed.

    michael.

  • Hi Michael

    he has just had lases treatment on his vocal cord (nov 10th) and get results 22 dec so i know he is worring. and he has just given up smoking. now i think about it have not praised him for that, i was just so angry that he ever smoked as i haven't and hated it. mabe i am just expecting to much from him to soon. he says he is confident the cancer has gone and this is the end of it. But deep down i know he is afraid he asks me questions all the time as he would never dream of looking things up he burries head in the sand a bit.

    Thanks once again

    Luckyus

  • Hi Luckyus.

    When he had laser on his vocal cords what did they say it was at. was it T1-T4. I had 6 weeks of laser, I will not go into what happened after. Like I said I never smoked but still got throat cancer, the specialist asked at the first diagnosis how long I had smoked for they seem to ask this straight away when you got to see them as a few of the people I have talked to get asked by them.

    I have been talking to a lit of people who find it helps to talk about what to expect as in my case, EG. what happened as I went along, as I said my problem got worse the more I went for bipseys I was in hospital for 3 of them and my cancer had moved from one vocal cord to the other side in a matter of 6 months.

    Doctors dont tell you much, have you asked him what he thinks if the news is not what he expects, does he use a computer, when I found out about my news I was on the computer to see what I could find out about the stage of my cancer and what may happen in the future, some people get frightened to look but I then had it in my mind what may happen and it helped me to understand what may happen in the future. get back to me and let me know how you get on, I can see not knowing isnt helping but what might happen in the future can upset him try and get him to talk about it, I get a lot of people emailing me to talk about it and I hope I can help with going through it

    michael.

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  • Hi Luckyus.

    When he had laser on his vocal cords what did they say it was at. was it T1-T4. I had 6 weeks of laser, I will not go into what happened after. Like I said I never smoked but still got throat cancer, the specialist asked at the first diagnosis how long I had smoked for they seem to ask this straight away when you got to see them as a few of the people I have talked to get asked by them.

    I have been talking to a lit of people who find it helps to talk about what to expect as in my case, EG. what happened as I went along, as I said my problem got worse the more I went for bipseys I was in hospital for 3 of them and my cancer had moved from one vocal cord to the other side in a matter of 6 months.

    Doctors dont tell you much, have you asked him what he thinks if the news is not what he expects, does he use a computer, when I found out about my news I was on the computer to see what I could find out about the stage of my cancer and what may happen in the future, some people get frightened to look but I then had it in my mind what may happen and it helped me to understand what may happen in the future. get back to me and let me know how you get on, I can see not knowing isnt helping but what might happen in the future can upset him try and get him to talk about it, I get a lot of people emailing me to talk about it and I hope I can help with going through it

    michael.

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