Tongue Cancer - Diagnosed two days ago

Hi, I am a 32 year old single mum to my two year old daughter and I found out two days ago that I have tongue cancer.  I'm waiting for an appointment for an MRI scan and a CT scan which should hopefully be within the next few days and this can find out if the cancer has spread.  I then have to have an appointment to discuss a treatment plan but I have already been told that this will involve cutting out the lump in my tongue and a neck dissection to remove Lymph nodes.

It's all such a lot to take in and I'm trying to come to terms with the fact that in a few weeks time my life will never be the same again.  I have read some horrific stories about what I have to come and I am willing to face any of it so long as I stay alive for the sake of my daughter.  I have only told my parents and one friend so far, no piont telling everyone until I have more facts after the scans but I'm concerned at how far the cancer could have spread.  I have had this painful lump on my tongue for six months but the doctors kept giving me prescripotions for other things which has delayed diagnisis.  I have also had pain in my throat and more recently I've noticed ear ache and jaw ache and neck pain.  I'm trying to stay positive until I know more information from the scans but I know I will crumble if it has spread beyond repair.

From reading stories from others on here and other websites, I'm a little confused that I haven't yet been told what stage the cancer is at.  Isn't that something that could be identified from my biopsy?  How could the doctor be so sure that I will need a neck dissection before knowing what stage it's at?

None of this has come of much of a surprise.  I googled my symptoms of a persistent ulcer back in April, before I first went to the doctor and was alarmed to see the word "cancer" everywhere I looked.  I had all the symptoms but was just hoping I was wrong.  The first two doctors I saw about this reassured me that it was nothing more sinister than an ulcer, which put my mind at rest a little, how wrong were they?!  I am just glad that I stayed persistent and kept going back to the doctor about it.  I don't think they treated it as an urgency as I don't fit in with the usual risk factors, I've never smoked, I hardly drink and I'm not in the right age bracket.  I'm now feeling annoyed at the waiting game.  I want to know when the scan will be.

It helps to come on here and read other threads but I still don't think it has fully sunk in yet but when it does, positivity for the sake of my little girl will just have to get me through.  I would love to keep hearing stories from others or any advice would be greatly received.

Nicola xx

  • Thanks. Been waiting with canular in since 0930!

  • Hi all hope you are all good and Nicola hope u r feeling better. Anti nausea meds seem to be bearing nasty chemo. Just had piece of Welsh Black Beef (blue). Put on 8 pounds. Know it wont last! G.

  • Hi Gary,

    Pleased to hear you got through your initiation relativly unscathed. A 6 hour wait for the chemo seems ridiculous.

    You should live in France! I get blood test results the next day and never waited for more than half an hour

    for treatment.

    With luck you won't be too bothered by the rt.  i used to lay there and count the seconds of each burst.

    There were 3 (left , front and right) of 30seconds each. I would be interested to know if your sessions are similar.

    I had no problems with rt not even when I had two sessions per day for the last 10 days. (making 42 in all)

    I have said before on this forum but it bears repeating. If you suffer from mucus it is a good idea to cough up

    as much as possible prior to rt, as when you are bolted to the bench you don't want a throatful of gunge

    They gave me some ointment to soothe the sunburn from the rt.

    Good luck

    Colin.

  • Cheers Colin. I am only getting one side done and got cream. Very slight mucus but may be down to chemo. RT seems ok but early doors! Ferry well done a year in. Thanks all.

  • Hi Guzzle,

    Sounds as if you have survived your first week without too many problems! Well done. As Colin has said, the mucus issue does become a problem when your bolted down wearing the mask, cough up as much as you can beforehand, I didn't find this to be too much of a problem for me, only once I had to raise my hand for them to release me so I could have a good cough! The anti sickness meds are a God send, you have reminded me of that awful sticky feeling and I shuddered at the thought! I look back at those days with much sorrow as it was a difficult time. I hope you haven't suffered too much with the nausea.

    Yes the Penny Brohn Centre was very good, I'm going back for a cooking demonstration soon, they give ideas for healthy eating and give samples of food. This will be useful to me as I still finding my feet with eating properly again. I've also got a meeting with a support person who will help me figure out what I need. I'm really struggling with the fatigue problem since treatment ended. I had hoped it would have got better by now as RT and chemo finished four months ago but as I was so tiny beforehand my consultant seems to think I'll suffer a little more fatigue. Typical! I didn't take the toddler to the centre though, she doesn't sit still for long!

    Keep using the cream even if your neck isn't sore yet, it worked well for me but otherwise, keep going! Time will fly by from now and before you know it, it will all be over. Sounds as if your hospital are helpful with letting you stay in for the night. Also sounds as if Colin received some great treatment too although I have to say, I have no complaints with our NHS with the treatment I have received, it was brilliant.

    I hope you've managed to eat well and have some more curries - I miss curry! Good for you with gaining 8lbs!

    All the best for another week of zapping!

    Nicola

  • Hi Colin,

    Good to hear from you.  My RT sounds similar yours although I only had the one side too. The machine seemed to zap me from the far side, then keep moving over until it was directly above my head, stopping to zap me as it made it's way. So it zapped me from five or six different positions. Each one was a few seconds but I remember counting the zaps and in total came to around 90 seconds. Then I always knew it was time to be let out from the mask! A couple of times the machine broke down which was frustrating. I have the mask at home now as I wanted to keep it however I got it out of the cupboard recently after three months of not seeing it and I must say, it stirred up some horrible emotions.

    Two sessions a day sounds harsh! That must have stepped up the side effects for you. I'm shocked that Gary hasn't been offered a PEG as we were, I hope he can manage to eat without too much pain. I remember that you said you still have yours, I'm due to have mine out soon and I think it will feel strange not to have it!

    Speak soon,

    Nicola

  • Good to hear from you Nicola. Glad centre was helpful. Only had v. Mild nausea but still eating and meds ok. Going to attempt another curry tonight! Apparently you eventually get your curry buds back! It just takes time and maybe you develop milder tastes. Try to bulk up a bit that should help fatigue. I guess Im adjusting to not running etc but inevatably will start to lose weight. A few people have said they can get a bit down when they finish treatment so keep your chin up. G.

  • Hi Nicola,

    Good to hear from you and I'm glad that things are moving in the right direction. I think you'll find that having your tube removed is a bit of a milestone for you - it was for me. It felt wonderful not to have it dangling about. It was a lifesaver though. Like you, I'm surprised that Guzzle hasn't been given one. Gary - I would ask for one straight away if and when you start to have difficultly swallowing.

    It's a shame about the fatigue, Nicola. Five months post treatment was the point for me where I felt that the fatigue had reduced to near normal so maybe you'll see an improvement in the next few weeks.

    My phantom tooth has been diagnosed as, wait for it......... osteoradionecrosis! I didn't know what it was either. Apparently it's bone that has been killed by the radiotherapy and started growing through my lower right mandible. I'm to see yet another consultant to get it sorted out. I'm still having the night-sweats about 4 or 5 times a week and the next port of call for this is the endocrinology department to get my hormones checked. I'm certainly getting my monies worth from the good old NHS - imagine if we had to pay!

    Good luck Guzzle and get that curry down you while you can - I used to love vindaloo but it's a dim and distant memory nowadays.

    Simon.   

  • Sorry to hear that mate. Hopefully specialist can fix it soon. Regards Gary

  • Hello Friends

    Haven't visited in ages due to a really full-on month - back to work, a wedding, elderly mum in hospital for 2 weeks, then sickness bug followed by a cold,so have been feeling pretty whacked!

    Other than that I'm doing fine, having had my monthly check-up this morning.  The only disappointment was I'd been told they might take my PEG out today if I'd maintained my weight.  Well I knew I hadn't with the sickness bug and all the rushing around taking turns with hospital visiting and staying over with our soon-to-be 90 Dad (I'd lost another 8 lbs) but I thought they might take that into account.  However turns out I have to wait for an appointment from a different department anyway, so hopefully it won't be too long.  At my previous check-up I got a gentle ticking-off for not trying hard enough to eat.  Because I wasn't enjoying anything savoury I had given up trying and was only eating puddings and supplementing with overnight pump feeds.  So two days after that appointment I just bit the bullet, stopped using the PEG completely and forced myself to eat normally, just washing everything down with copious quantities of milk.  Apart from spicy stuff (I miss my curries too!) I'm pretty much eating normally as before, just smaller quantities - I can never clear my plate though. Changed days from when I was an absolute gannet, would have seconds if they was enough and hoover up leftovers on the rest of the family's plates - no wonder I was over 13st!  I'm now 11st 6lbs which is hardly lightweight so it just feels so weird that they are concerned with me not losing any more weight.

    I started work at the beginning of this month at 3 hours per day, some days at home, some in the office and have gradually built up my hours until this week when I've done 2 days at my normal 6.5 hours a day.  Am pretty tired by finishing time but coping so far.  Hopefully my Mum will get home from hospital soon which will make life much easier.  She dislocated one of her artificial hips two days before my nephew's wedding, so she missed seeing her grandson get married, which was a real shame. I really enjoyed the wedding, ate quite well and even enjoyed a couple of drinkies - have discovered I like bacardi and coke again with my new taste for sweeter stuff.  I also had a bit of a bop round the dancefloor and even managed a very energetic 'strip the willow' (a poplar Scottish reel with lots of 'birling') with a burly policeman - we showed the youngsters how to do it properly!

    Good to catch-up with all your news and hear of your progress.  Gary, best of luck with the rest of your treatment and don't forget to ask about a PEG if you start to have difficulty eating.  They are much maligned in many ways but I think we all agree them to be a godsend too.  Nichola - let me know how you get on getting yours out, i.e. what's involved?  I'm sure I read somewhere they just yank it out but surely there's a bit of local anaesthetic?!?!?!  Simon bad luck re the osteoradionecrosis - sounds really grim!  Hope they get that sorted out soon for you.

    Best wishes to everyone else on this thread not mentioned above, especially Jo and Debs.    It's lovely to read that some of you are meeting up - wish I wasn't quite so far away!

    Irene