Hi guys. Sending love to you all. We have just lost my mum to this cancer after only 6 months post surgery. My advice push for the chemo after and push for all the scans you can get after too. If this had been possible for mum then she might still be here. Xx

Hi

I too would advise, push push push.  My brother had been visiting his GP since March with fears of this dreadful cancer and was pooh poohed and told it was acid reflux.  Eventually at the end of August he had an endoscopy and a biopsy.  By this time he had lost 1 and half stones in 6 weeks.  He was rushed into hospital on 20th September, and passed away on 25th October without having had any treatment.  I could go into far more detail but would not wish to distress anyone on this forum.  It was obviously too late for him and I find it extremely upsetting that in spite of him doing the right thing and going to his doctor, (and advising the doctor that his paternal grandfather had died of the same disease) he was sent away and not seen to in sufficient time to give him a few months quality of life.  

Make a nuisance of yourself, push and push for scans and tests and treasure every moment you have xx

Kazzap- Never apologise, and you are not jumping in, this is public board, where fellow travellers have happened to find each other. So welcome!
What can I say to you.  There are a growing pile in this Oesophageal cancer club, all at various stages of diagnosis & treatment. I said earlier ( I post a lot - if something is on my mind, it gets on here pdq) it is often worse for the onlooker. Your Dad will be in charge of his information and of course what he shares with family and because of patient confidentiality and data protection laws, the hospital team won't share anything.My Dad, when he had prostate cancer 15 yrs ago was very conservative with what he told us, used to drive me MAD(:. Used to say things like 'oh, forgot to say, appointment tomorrow' type stuff, and of course My Dad was totally in charge of deciding what treatment he wanted and more importantly what he didn't want....

There will be some sort of team around your Dad, with some nurses attached, they are very good at picking up the confused relatives (:.also Maggies ( chairity attached to many cancer units) they are very good to go to when in meltdown.

As Millie has said there is McMillan who deal with this sort of stuff all the time, so maybe give them a call.

None of us on here are medics ( that I know of LOL) and only know what we do through travelling this crazy rollercoaster, so feel free to spill.

Millie- You have had some really horrible times with bereavement and you know as well as anyone that we that are left have to go on. Your road trip rang a tune with me as a friend in work a few years ago , got an absolutely awful diagnosis of stage 4 ovarian & Bowel, they couldn't decide which was the primary. She 'retired on I'll health' and we all thought that was pretty much it.......fast forward 5 years, and she is still here- found a clinical trial that seriously worked, PET scan showing no active disease. Incredible stuff, just before Covid kicked off she had completed a road trip around the US!! and has already done Europe!! What a cracking bird (:

Lee- enjoy your golf round tomorrow. My Dad is golf mad, he is out in all weathers!. Iit is way too cold here at the mo here  for me- a total lizard who loves soaking up the heat! A north wind that just won't go away, mind saying that once it does go away, it will be rain all the way

OMG- I can't half blather on (: !

Thanks Hilts...we'll do our best!

Lee

Thinking of you today Millie58,

Get 'slashing'

i have been doing some 'therapeutic ' sorting. The old vynil in the loft! Supposed to be sorting it LOL. My kids have nicked the Nirvana, Bleach blares out (:. Spending good time completely wasting it. 

Thinking of you too, Milly58. 

Unfortunately there was no signal getting the FLOT and the wifi doesn't allow connection to this website.

And I have to say it.

May the 4th be with you.

And Hilts - good luck with the vinyl!  We've an old 1960 jukebox that has kept us entertained for years and about a 1000 45's that needs sorting through!

Cheers all

bfg

LOL- nice to have you back BFG, 

indeed - may the 4th be with Millie (:

What is it about vinyl? The music sounds so much more 'real'. My kids are really getting  into it.

When CD's first came out it was WOW, no scratching, jumping, convenient, no tape spooling da de dah,of course we now know 'not true' . CD's just doesn't'feel ' the same.

How are you anyway BFG. Started the next FLOT yet? Last hurdle, then DONE.

Mine goes back to work next week !!!!!! See how he gets on TBH I think it will do him wonders he's had nothing else to think about for the last 9 months apart from cancer, he needs a distraction now and 'getting back out there'. Distraction certainly kept me going (:

Daisy and Ray- where are you?
Keeping the faith

HILTS

Hi Hilts

FLOT started this morning - so far, so good.

Some of the best sounding music on our juke comes from original vinyl from the last 50's - later music comes no where near it. 

I'm fortunate to have started a contract wfh a year ago now and since diagnosis and treatment over the past 6 months, they have been incredible patient and flexible and have just been extended another 6 months (I restarted working 4 days a week s month ago).

Hi Hilts, BFG and all,

I received a call from the surgeon just after 5 to say my husband's op had gone according to plan which is really good news. He's now in ICU. Thanks for the messages of support and I'm pleased the first FLOT has gone well BFG. Also great news re your husband Hilts - another step forward. 

Keeping the faith 

Milly 

Yyyaaaayy Mille58-

yep, YOU made it, never mind your bloke! He was nicely unconscious, while you were hopefully out there slashing....... LOL (:

ICU = mine was on there for about 36 hours. Varying degrees on here. He will be enjoying his opiates (:

Yep, little steps going forward. 
I am sooo glad the hospital saved my guy.......... I can now cheerful kill him myself............he really does need to go to back to work (: LOL

Millie - you, like me will get there.(:

laters

Hilts

Great news Milly!

I spent a couple of nights in ICU, being very well looked after by a whole host of angels, before being taken back to the ward. It was a surreal couple of days and for a few days on the ward - time didn't make any sense - what felt like hours could be 10 minutes, and of course they are taking tests, bloods, bp etc at all times of the day.

My "messaging" was all over the place - it could take 15 minutes to respond or even just to write a simple comment - as what I had been writing was complete rubbish - so don't worry if you get gibberish, or it takes a while. 

You should be able to get the phone number for the nurses station when he is back on the ward- what my other half didn't realise was that my room was next to my nursing station, and the number of times she phoned up "after" we had communicated all concerned - it was quite funny, as she thought I was psychic when I told her off.

Cheers

bfg

Hi bfg, Hilts and all in this 'club',

Thank you for your warm wishes and information! I don't know about my husband being muddled I couldn't remember my password to this site! 

Yep he's still in ICU as expected and is in for the night getting spoilt by the nursing staff! He is doing well, so far so good. He's been sat in a chair and the staff have been great. I've been able to speak to him on their phone and and seemed pretty good considering everything. The surgeon believes that they've got it all and good margins. So best news possible- just typed a I instead of an o 'hello hello' lol. 
 

Relieved doesn't cover it! He had keyhole on his abdomen and open up top. Hopefully we can FaceTime when he feels able to in a few days. 

Hope you're doing OK bfg after your first FLOT and regards to all. Thanks again.

Milly who is feeling more like Mandy again!

Hi bfg, Hilts and all in this 'club',

Thank you for your warm wishes and information! I don't know about my husband being muddled I couldn't remember my password to this site! 

Yep he's still in ICU as expected and is in for the night getting spoilt by the nursing staff! He is doing well, so far so good. He's been sat in a chair and the staff have been great. I've been able to speak to him on their phone and and seemed pretty good considering everything. The surgeon believes that they've got it all and good margins. So best news possible- just typed a I instead of an o 'hello hello' lol. 
 

Relieved doesn't cover it! He had keyhole on his abdomen and open up top. Hopefully we can FaceTime when he feels able to in a few days. 

Hope you're doing OK bfg after your first FLOT and regards to all. Thanks again.

Milly who is feeling more like Mandy again!

Yaaayyyy, 

Excellent news Millie58.

your garden is hopefully weed free by now. Hope you have exhaled.(:

No mercy on the patients. They had my guy out in the chair the next day! Much to his disbelief and horror (: I think he thought it would be like 'carry on matron' ! LOL. Day 2 or 3 up and in the shower ......., no 'brow mopping ' stuff, but plenty of opiates (:

So now, 3/4 done , just think he will be eating probably by day 5 , I think BFG really enjoyed his 'textured chicken' as did my guy (:. I think that motivates anyone to get cracking with the eating (: Another 10 or so weeks , all done, finito. Then no doubt you will sit and look at each other and think WTF just happened.....just as we are, but as ever ,

keeping the faith

Hilts.

That's really good news Milly 

Lee 

Hi,all,

Thanks Hilts and thanks Lee. It really does help having support frim people who understand. I hope you enjoyed the golf with your dad Lee.

I'll keep you all posted.. 
 

Milly

 

Hi all,

A quick update to say my husband has moved out of ICU to the step down ward. The reason for  being a little longer in ICU was due to some 'gunge' left behind from pneumonia in 1994! This has been cleared but they monitored him in ICU. Seems so strange that I can't visit but I have to say he is constantly being assessed/seeing various professional so in between he needs his rest. So it's probably better for him as a patient and easier for the staff! 
 

Some good news for him today was the football team he supports and is a season ticket holder (when you could go) managed to hold on and stay in the championship! 

He has been a walk Hilts. Keeping the faith.

Milly

Good news Milly. 

We are seeing the oncologist for the scan results this week-its that time now where we are not sleeping and worrying constantly! My Dad feels good and strong in himself but the fact that he cannot swallow solid foods again is what's scaring us. We have to keep positive and hope for good news. 

Lee

Hi Lee,

As Hilts says worrying is natural. We know in our heads it won't change anything but it's your dad and it's very hard. A positive is that he feels well and strong. The waiting is very difficult I can only advocate what Hilts said to me - distraction helps. Do things with your family or on your own.

Keeping the faith. Thanks Hilts.

Milly 
 

Great news about hubby Milly. ICU was pretty intense at the time, so I bet he's relieved to be back on the ward. Drains will start to be removed and then it's on to liquids, followed by minced and moist! I'm a WBA fan btw, so will end up watching them play your husbands team next season - probably. 

Lee - thinking of you.  Nothing worse than the waiting, but feeling good and strong is definitely a plus. 

Bfg

Thanks bfg and Milly 

Lee

Hi Folks, 

yep, the worrying part.........

I am a world expert in worry having been born like it. (: 

It is really a strange old thing. Mine usually works like this = boil up a load of spaghetti, Chuck it in washing machine and put it on a spin cycle (:. Don't really do that, but in the words of the 'lovable' Francis Begbie 'Picture the scene' - it is a metaphor ( not used that word since school) for the mess ones head is in..

Another way my head works, is when I have absolutely nothing to worry about, my naughty brain, will find something, anything , the more bonkers the better. Over all this whole episode I have actually, probably ,for the first time in my life had something real to worry about and my head has been behaving better than usual.

Sure, it has not been fun sometimes, but for once I found something to help and that really was distraction. It has only taken me 52 years (:

The absolute worst bit, was the start, like where you are now Lee. That really was a spaghetti job. Once we had the plan it got better. Not perfect, but less fizzy.

I think we all think for some reason that anxiety and worry is a 'weakness' , that it is bad.  We try and hide it and 'put a brave face on ' for the world around us, I think that is primarily a result of what we are sold as 'good' & 'normal' by media etc. I am now old enough and couldn't really care less what other people think of me , so I feel free. But, I still hang on to it around family, don't ask, I have no idea(:

So, my ' in depth anxiety analysis strikes again! Lee, you are completely normal but the way it makes you feel is utterly horrible.  It will move on, but for now just try and accept that you are in a pants position at the mo- and it is okay to not be okay.

God, I can blather on.....sorry, anyway, 

Keep the faith and come back and share

Hilts

PS the keep the faith thingy I use is not religious! Just thought I'd clarify that..... but a saying from my distant youth. Scooter runs, Northern Soul, Ska music scene, etc etc etc (:you know, disaffected youth stuff and we'd all stick together etc

Thanks Hilts, i'll report back when I know something more.

Thanks

Lee