Life expectancy- stage 4 lung cancer experience

Thank you for your replies.

I used this forum to try and predict Mums life expectancy and reading through the posts really helped, so I knew I had to write my own experience on here.

Mum was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer on 13th June and died on August 15th. We did not find out what type of cancer it was as she had COPD, asthma, angina and it just wasn’t worth it. When we found out she didn’t seem hugely different than the other times she had been in hospital and the cancer was missed on so many previous scans, it was right by her heart and she always had chest infections so they assumed it was always that causing the dark blur. 

She was great, had to be on oxygen 24/7 and we wouldn’t leave her side but overall, herself! but then went into hospital as her sodium was low and caught shingles. I don’t think this had much of an effect on her timeline to be honest. About 10 days before she passed, she was more tired and confused. She then went to sleep and barely spoke from the Friday, she died on the Wednesday. The Tuesday before we washed her and she was lifeless. We stopped all medication and took her off her mask around the Saturday because she just couldn’t swallow. Signs to watch out for are confusion, being unable to swallow, becoming more tired and towards the end - the white fingertips. Everyone’s experience is different but Mums last 2.5 weeks were when she started getting confused and it went downhill from there.

She died peacefully cuddled up to me and my sister and I’m forever thankful for that. I think the anxiety of her passing at the wrong moment, without us, was the worst. 

I wish I followed my gut and left work sooner (I worked mornings up until the Friday before).

Mum wanted to celebrate Christmas early and although it was originally arranged for 11th August, we luckily moved it to the 15th July. It was great, she actually went 3 hours without oxygen (we didn’t realise!) and stayed out until 11pm. We are so lucky to of had that day, so many came and Mum was showed how loved she was whilst she was still here. I’d advise anyone to do this - build a memory that shows them going out with a bang. 

She lived with me during the last moments and my biggest regret is that I was too strong, sometimes I wish I cried my heart out and told her how scared I was to live without her. I wish she heard that from me but I know she knew deep down.

We’re lucky Mum was the strong little soul she was but I suppose that makes it so much harder without her.

The primrose nurses were the best people to get advice from, better than the doctors. Make sure everything is done how you want, you know them better than anyone else!

 

Hope this helps someone and feel free to ask questions. This forum helped me so much! Xx

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  • Thank you for your honesty I'm sure it will help so many. It's the worst just not knowing if mum has weeks or months to live. She said she feels well now. They can't give her any more chemo as she has too many toxins. She had a blood transfusion as her count was so low. They have just put her in touch with a hospice in case she needs them which she cried and said she doesn't as it made her feel like she is dying and she wants another few years ( I know this is unlikely but we re going along with what mum believes) she is eating ok now and not bring sick. She has anti sickness tablets snd steroids. They gave her morphine to take at night to help her sleep. She has been offered radiotherapy. She has constant phlegm in her throat which makes her horse and her voice is quiet and squeaky. She is only breathless if she does too much, although mostly she sits watching tv or knitting etc. I wish I knew the timeline of what happens next what to look out for when she has weeks left - etc. I feel like each day I'm phoning her ( can't visit due to Covid) snd not knowing truly how she is or how/ if it is progressively getting worse. Can anyone shed some light on how I know or what happens in later stages I guess - what comes next? 

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  • The messages I have read are so supportive ️
     

    my dad is 67 and 4 weeks ago he was diagnosed with lung cancer and spinal metastases! He went in to hospital with a sudden increase in back pain which had bothered him for just 7 weeks. He is a heart transplant patient of 18 years and they have said he can't have chemotherapy due to kidney damage medication has caused. One of lower vertebrae collapsed with too much damage for cement procedure and surgery has been ruled out. Cancer has been detected in 2 other areas of his spine including his neck and also areas of his ribs. 
    it has been a couple of weeks since biopsy but apparently still awaiting molecular studies to see if immunotherapy would be considered. He has just had a palliative blast of radiotherapy to his lower back which has massively helped pain management along with OxyContin and a brace. 
    we are hoping he can return home for Christmas as he is starting to walk with a Zimmer frame but he lives alone and completely refuses his bed to be downstairs. Carers and commode etc is being arranged. He is to try stairs with physio tomorrow. 
    but nobody is really indicating about how long he has and the Macmillan nurse indicated today he will be back on his push bike and out for walks. I feel bad that I am being negative but I don't want to not be realistic. I think my dad and sister are in denial and professionals are going along with it because it is so close to Christmas! 

     

  • Don't feel bad for feeling this way, you have to prepare in these situations. Try to enjoy any time you do have but I would feel the same in your shoes. Could you pull the nurses aside? 
    Your dad seems to have been through the works, what a strong man he must be xx

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  • Thank you for replying so soon! Covid makes the situation so much worse and makes me feel unable to get the support from people I would normally reach out to. It also makes it hard to get all the different professionals involved to actually sit and meet us and to talk to us. I will try my best to actually get someone to one side and ask questions more directly. Thank you x