Help: dear friend dying and daughter should know

Hi everyone,

I have a dear friend who I just found out is facing terminal stomach cancer which as spread to lungs and lymph nodes. He is 62, with just one daughter who he no longer keeps in touch with. My friend is scared to death about having to face this alone.

My family and I plan to help our friend in this difficult time.  We also would like to contact his daughter at the approperiate time as his condition woresens.

For now, we would love some input on his current condition, and about how long he may have left, realistically.

From whar we've been told:

1. He says he was initally diagnosed ~6 yrs ago with stomach cancer but was told they couldnt operate at the time. 

2. He underwent chemo, but no surgery. 

3. Last yr he was told the cancer had spread to his lungs and was given 6 months.  Fast forward one yr, he is still with us!! 

4. Currently no actuve treatment, he has pills that he takes before eating, morphine that he only takes when pain is tooo unbearable (due to terrible side effects).

5. Current symptoms: extreme weight loss, nausea/vomiting, unable to eat much (though he tries, eating results in abdominal pain), pain undernesth armpits, pain in shoulders, belly swells slowly and then takes several hrs for swelling to go down. Pain in one leg that he doesnt understand (he now has a walking cane)

6. He sleeps sitting as lying down hurts his back.  He sleeps 3 hrs a day, he says he cant even try to sleep longer because he is afraid he wont awake.

Our friend really wants to live, and will not allow us to even consider contacting his daughter.  But with his condition being terminal, we believe his daughter should know.

So based on the info provided, any thoughts on how long we may have?....are we looking at months, possibly a yr?

I apologize for the lenghty post, we would really appreciate any and all response

Thank you

  • Oh my. I'm so sorry your friend has all this to deal with. But please remember it's his call about if his daughter should know. It seems pretty clear from your post that he doesn't want her involved. He's had plenty of time to consider this. I know you may have other ideas, but he's trusted you with this private information. Please don't go against his wishes. He needs friends right now. He'll have his reasons for dealing with things this way. 

    Regards, gamechanger

     

  • Hi GChanger,

    Thank you for replying.  Yes, it absolutely breaks our hearts watching our friend struggle to cope with this terrible condition.  He does have a strong will to live, and he has mentioned he would like to get better and one day reconnect with his daughter.  I do see your pt in that so far, he has asked us to not contact his daughter.  We have been, and will continue to be here for our friend and hope for the best.  

    As for his current condition based on what we have been able to gather, any opinions on how much longer he may have?  We understand it’s a difficult question (especially with just the info we are providing), and that no one knows for sure. We would just sooo appreciate any feedback, similar experiences, opinions....anything.

    Thank you

  • Hi there ... I worked in a couple of care homes years ago ... One thing always surprised me ... I'd finish a shift for a couple of days thinking someone was really near the end ... And just taking sips of water and hardly breathing ... Came back after couple of days and remember the lady was sitting up in bed eating toast ... But another one who looked o.k had died ... 

    It's so hard ... I would no matter how hard just live in the day ... If we had a Cristal ball but then would we really want one?   Chrissie x

  • It's great that you've respected his decision to not contact his daughter.  None of us ever know what has really gone on in other people's families.

    As for how long he's got, there genuinely is no way of saying.  From what you've said it sounds like he would possibly die of malnutrition before anything else.

    My friend was diagnosed with terminal brain cancer 18 years ago now.  She is still with us, has had two children since that prognosis and is living a very active life.  Another friend died within months of discovering she had a similar brain tumour.

    Sadly all you can do is ask your friend what his prognosis is.  Even then it could be way out.

    Sorry that's not much help :|

    LJx

  • Hi Chriss, thank you for taking time to reply.  I appreciate you sharing your experience, and I gotta say our friend Frank is experiencing exactly what you are describing.  Some days he is visibly fatigued, and other days he is more energetic and wants to go on a walk.  One thing we have noticed about Frank is that if he is in pain or not feeling well, he tries to push himself to be even more active (like a man who uses a walker tries to excercise and do push-ups!!). Nowadays he just wants to live sooooo much.

    Knowing his condition, is Frank doing himself more harm by pushing himself physically to move and excercise?  

     

    As for his eating, Frank still has cravings for different types of food.  He takes pills 30 mins before eating which he says helps him digest his meal, and in most cases he still throws up his meal and says it feels like he is throwing up his entire stomach in the process (food, blood, mucus,etc).

    The other day he says he feels the end is near, which broke our hearts.  It turns out Frank was diagnosed with stage 4 stomach cancer (secondary to lungs, and likelyto other areas) 2 yrs ago (not one) and given 6 months to live.  Although he is still able to eat some and move around, is it possible for his condition to get worse very suddenly.  If so, what are some possible signs/symptoms we should be looking for?  Should we be looking into hospice care soon?

    Thank you again for any input/opinions you may have on our situation