Support of friends during grieving of my mum

Hello everyone

I hope given where I am posting, everyone hasn't had too much of a painful day (my mum loved the sunshine and being in the garden, so I've tried to spend as much time out there feeling a little bit closer to her!)

I have a question about support that people are getting from friends during the grieving process. I think because I'm relatively young to loose my mum, I'm 33, so many of my friends fortunately have yet to experience how really, really tough it truly is. They aren't not being there for me, but many are just asking questions which I'm finding very inconsiderate or completely avoiding asking me about anything. Should i try to be understanding that they are just trying to cheer me up, or annoyed? My mind feels very clouded by everything and I cannot work out if I'm just being really irrational? At the moment I genuinely couldn't care less if the pubs are opening in 2 weeks or not! 

Thanks everyone x

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  • Hiya. I wanted to reply and reach out as I've been reading your previous posts. I'm new to this forum. Only got news yesterday that mums lymphoma is now incurable. They would not give us a prognosis just that they will not give anymore chemo and she can steroids if any symptoms arise. But stupidly I've been googling and I know it's not good. I feel I'm dying inside and I don't know what to do. I'm an only child too and have an amazing partner and friends but feel so alone. Sorry I didn't mean to start this by waffling on. I wanted to say that I think I understand about how you feel about your friends, I have already come across a couple of my work colleagues that seem to just text me with almost a scripted message, like there's no real feeling behind it. I think though that if your friends are trying to occupy your thoughts that's a good thing, like yourself, I haven't any friends that have lost a parent yet so i think as well friends don't fully understand the grief you're feeling. I'm 37 so a couple years older than yourself but it still feels far too young to lose mum. Please reach out for a chat if you like. I hope you're ok. Xx

  • I just want to start by saying I'm so so sorry to hear about your mum's news. I have been there as have so many of the kind people on the forum, and it's a very anxious place to be, I understand. It's also feels so lonely, even if you're surrounded by family and friends because no one experiences it quite how you're experiencing that news. Is your mum at home or hospital? Will you get to spend time with her? That's the one thing I can recommend doing as you will both hold those memories so close to your hearts forever. 

    I think I have found it much more difficult managing how up and down I feel that I expected. Some hours are much better than others, and I think I may be going through the anger stage because I just feel frustrated people just don't seem to understand, and going for a drink isn't going magically make my mum reappear next to me! 

    If you ever want to chat about anything, I'm here! Remember to take care of yourself too as that's so important at the moment xxx

     

     

  • Thank you so much for your reply and also I am so sorry. 
    mums at home. They haven't given us a timescale, they wouldn't say. In some way I wish I knew. A friend said to me how would it make anything different though if I did know but it's the unknown. Is it weeks? Months? They've been vague and perhaps I need to phone and have another conversation with someone. So I want to spend as much time with her but then I'm conscious I don't want to smother her and also consume myself with spending every second I can with her and we don't know how long this could go on and then in turn I end up letting myself go if that makes sense?? 
    I understand about friends suggesting drinks etc.. I genuinely think it's because they don't understand how else to help and they think it'll be a nice distraction. When in reality you'd probably prefer them just to come round, pjs on, and just talk, talk about your mum but also let it lead to other conversations if it does and who knows end up having a laugh maybe, a more sort of natural and casual approach. If like me the last thing I feel like doing right now is putting makeup on and making an effort to go out and pretend I'm having a jolly time. 
    hooe all that made sense sometimes I get on a roll and worry I'm waffling xxx

  • Please don't apologise, you're not waffling at all, and I think this is what we are all here for! It really does help to talk about it (and especially with people that get it).

    I tthinkthat's the really difficult thing about timescales because I think as soon as the world terminal is used, because you're already in a very anxious state, your mind goes straight to the worst case scenario but I've read many stories where people have lived with that prognosis for quite a long time. Have the doctors said to your mum why they can't say? Or do you not know because your mum doesn't want to know? I think if it's maybe the last reason, it may be worth having a chat with her if you really would like to have some idea. My mum didn't want to know, and my dad spoke to her and explained that because she was in hospital we needed to know if we should request for her to come out to have care at home/in a hospice because of the restrictions all we could do was speak to her on the phone, and that was absolutely horrendous. Sometimes she was too tired/breathless to speak and the hospital was so busy we had no idea what was going on at all. 

    I definately see your point about not wanting to smother her either, if your mum feeling okay she's probably still wanting to keep her independenxe and continue life as normal as she can. Your mum will know you're there for her, even if it means not being by her side for 24 hours a day, she will also want you to continue your life, and look after yourself too. 

    How has your mum taken the news after speaking to the doctor? Xxx

     

  • Morning. Hope you slept ok. They didn't really say why they couldn't say. My friend suggested maybe it's because they can't predict how quickly it will spread. Mum hasn't given away any inckling that she knows or wants to know. I know it's stupid but I'm scared to ask. My partner, he said he could have a chat with her regards it perhaps. She has large b cell lymphoma in her stomach and it's a very aggressive form of cancer so I just presume it'll spread quickly with no tment. Did your mum come home from hospital at all? How's your dad coping? Do you live close by or at home still? Xx

  • I have actually been sleeping a lot! Did you sleep okay? 

    It doesnt sound stupid that you don't want to know at all, I think sometimes it makes it feel even more real and your brain is probably has gone into survival mode at the moment. Has your mum had treatment and they decided to stop? Or she's not had any at all? Is she feeling well at the moment?

    My mum was admitted via a&e after months and months of misdiagnosis of a bad back (sadly seems to be super common). She stayed there for 6 weeks after having all the scans, and had emergency radiotherapy on her spine as she was very quickly diagnosed with MSCC, which is spinal cord compression caused by the cancer tumour which started in her lungs but had spread. She was discharged from hospital with a care package, but was then readmitted 24 hours later because she detoriated so much. My dad after 2 days of her being back in hospital was quite forceful on the phone with the head nurse because we could hear her detoriating rapidly on the phone, and her oncology appointment was scheduled for 2 weeks later. the consultant called us that day, and told my dad that unfortunately she had gone down hill so quickly that there was nothing more that could be done. My mum had asked not to know how long, but they told my dad days, a couple of weeks max. She was then admitted into a really beautiful hospice for her last days where we were able to be with her all the time. My dad stayed with her, but my brother and I just stayed during the day so they could be together in the evenings. For this, I am so thankful because if she had been alone in hospital, it would have broken my heart. We spend some really, really special time together and she left me feeling very loved, which is a real blessing but also has made me realise the huge hole it's left in my life. 

    I'm at home for now, but I don't live here usually. I have been back for the past 4 months since my mum was unwell. I'm quite scared to go back to my usual home as it's full of stuff that my mum helped me pick out, photos etc. 

    Are you close by to your mum? I hope you manage to have an okay day today xx

  • I've just replied through a private message xx

  • Hi [@Newlife101]‍ 

    I'm relatively new to this forum and came across this post and can relate heavily to this right now.

    My Mum passed away just over 4 weeks ago, only 3 days after we received her cancer diagnosis. She had a very aggressive form of lung cancer that had already spread throughout her lungs and lymph nodes. It has completely turned my world upside down, it's all come as such a shock and I'm heartbroken she has been taken far, far too soon.

    I'm 32 and I lost my Dad when I was 15. My friends are all very fortunate not to have lost a parent yet and I feel they have been really unhelpful since my Mum's death. They haven't been overly supportive and have kept their distance like my grief is contagious. They think they're being supportive by saying 'let me know if you need anything' but it just feels so empty. One friend has had her big white wedding postponed 3 times due to the pandemic and recently said in our group chat that she had a really bad weekend crying over the fact her wedding has had to be postponed again and I felt like screaming at her that worse things could happen. It feels like they're all being incredibly insensitive.

    I'm feeling very alone right now.

    Just wanted to let you know you're not alone with how you're feeling and I hope you're doing as well as you can be given this horrible card you've been dealt.

    Take good care,

    J

  • Hello [@Dexter123]‍ J

    I wanted to say first of all, I am so so sorry to hear the news of your mum, 3 days after diagnosis must feel unbelievably difficult, and at 32 having lost your dad many years ago, the world must feel incredibly cruel and unfair. 

    I resonate a lot with what you have said of empty offers, and people not understanding still during my grief process, unfortunately. It feels as if your world has stopped, and people are continuing to carry on and sometimes avoid you as if it is contagious, you're so right. I think unless you're part of this club which no one wants to be, you're often just not sure of the right thing to say, so don't say anything. For those you feel able to, try explaining to them of how isolating it feels, some people will try to understand and will make a conscious effort to be there and listen to you, but others will not, and I feel as if those are the people that you won't carry with you on the rest of the journey, but that is okay. 

    This forum is full of genuinely kind people who will be there for you and offer an ear when you're feeling like no one else gets it, because they sadly do understand. It's helped me more than I think I even knew at the start to be honest.

    Therapy has also been a good outlet for me to speak without judgement, have you thought about that? 

    I am a little further down the line, as my mum had her diagnosis end of January, then passed away early march, and it's without a doubt, been the hardest period of my life. Every single day I think about her most of the day and I miss her so much, but there are now days where I don't have such a heavy heart and I can remember some of the really lovely times we spent together and I am just genuinely thankful she was my mum, and I know how alike we are. This can never be taken away from you either. 

    I am sending you a huge amount of strength, and lots of love, it's incredibly difficult. If you ever want to chat, I am always here. 

    Lots of love, and a big hug xxx

     

  • Hi just wanted to say how sorry I am for you and send virtual hugs.

    mu husband is terminally ill and my daughters have experienced the same, because he's been poorly their friends have stopped asking about him and when they stress over stupid things it drives my daughters mad.I can only say that unless you've been through this you can't imagine what it's like. People can't cope with it and offer distractions or saying I'm here if you need me? Use this chat room for support and maybe try grief counselling? 
    you will get through this but it will be hard and it will probably change you as a person but that's fine, it's all part if living. Your mum sounds amazing and just cherish your memories. Take care B