Consultant pushing for a break from chemo, I'm not convinced

Hello all,

I'm writing regarding my Mum - she's in her mid-60s and in October was diagnosed with stage 4 colon cancer, which had spread to her liver (multiple large tumours) and her lung (small spot).  Her diagnosis was terminal, with a 2-2.5 year outlook based on successful chemo (3 months without).

My mum started chemo in November (2019) on a cocktail of cancer drugs: Irinotecan, Fluoroaracil, Folinate and Oxaliplatin.  She has these every 2 weeks.  After ~4 rounds, my mum deteriorated - she wasn't eating, was extremely tired, wobbly and confused.  The consultant immediately dropped the Oxaliplatin and put her onto steroids, and this worked wonders.  Her appetite increased, her confusion reduced and she started living a relatively normal life again. We've now had 8 cycles and she's doing well, with the main symptom being Chemo brain (she's definately more confused and unable to hold a conversation as easily).  Other than that, she's living a good life.  She's happy in herself, out every day at the shops or what not.  Yes she gets more tired and she can get confused, but she's happy.

In a recent scan, my mum showed that the tumours have responded to the chemo.  Her spot on the lung has completely gone, the liver tumours have shrunk, as have those in the bowel.  This didn't come as a surprise as mum has been able to go back to eating normally, so she had expected this news.

The consultant has started pushing for a break from chemo.  This would by a 12 week (3 month) break, with a scan in the middle. I have to be honest, I don't particularly like the consultant; he's rude and never appears to have much time for her.  In the latest consult he walked in, immediately started talking about having had "all these strong drugs" for a "long time", and suggested a break. He had "forgotten" Mum had stopped Oxaliplatin, which obviously didn't impress me nor give me confidence in his recommendations.  I challenged him on what the benefits of a break would be, and he just kept stating "quality of life". He told me that it makes "very little difference" to her outlook (he explained that the chemo is most effective in the first few months), but my own brief Googling suggests this probably isn't true and that a break can have an impact on the length of survival. 

I came away wondering if he was just looking to save the NHS money, and I still don't really feel that there benefits are there - yes she's confused but she's happy and living her life.  Would a 12 week break even reduce these confused symptoms significantly? It doesn't seem like a long period so I am sceptical.

I am aware that chemo symptoms get progressively worse, but she's only been going 4 months. Does anyone have any experience or advice on taking a break vs carrying on? I'm thinking about paying privately to get a second opinion - have them review her medication and scans (pre chemo and last months more positive scan).

Any advice very welcomed, thank you.

  • Hi chemotherapy doesn't stop working straight away after treatment has finished. Alot if pacients have a rest to give the body a chance to get back to normal, to get strength back ready for next lot of treatment.. 

    Billy 

  • Hello,

               l had two lots of chemo with a break inbetween. There was not much point in defeating the cancer by eliminating the patient.. Chemo is brutal, and until you have been there  can you possibly understand the ignorance of your statement that its only been four months, not a criticism, just  the best way to explain the reality. As it was my second session of chemo left me with permancanent neuropathy of the feet, which got really bad after the fourth round of six, but my stats suggested l was strong enough to continue, which was five years ago .

                                                             l was only on capecitaban and oxiplatin and your mother seems to have taken a lot more, so l can imagine it has had a harsh impact which the consultant and members of his team will have been  constantly monitoring, and l expect it is armed with this information they will have reached  this conclusion.

                                             One last thought is that not having a break when you are struggling to cope will not nessacerily show up in statistics,and the lower survival rate statistic to those who had a break in treatment takes no account of where it was having no impact on the cancer, and hence being stopped

                    Glad to hear your mothers consultant remains detached from emotion which allows him to retain clear judgement and focus his abilities of doing his professional best for his patients and feel sure she is given plenty of warm reassurance by other members of the team. l hope she continues to enjoy her life to the very full,

                                                                                                                                                               David

                                                                          

  • Hi I have a breast cancer spread to my lungs amd before chemo I had it in my liver and kidney.I have different chemo regime - weekly Paclitaxel only and all my tumors shrink the ones in my kidney and my liver dissapeared.I am always asking for break not only mentally to cope better but also to give a body break from the toxic meds.I had one 4 weeks break in December had scan in January which showed the good news of dissapearing and shrinkage and now I have 4 weeks break in March.Also my immunity gets a boost during break and I believe that the chemo drug works better because after the break the body gets the shock of the drugs again and doesn't get use to it.But this is only my "practice".