Immunotherapy 2 year limit

Hi everyone, my partner was diagnosed with stage 4 non small cell lung cancer in october 2015, she received chemotherapy initially, which didn't agree with her and after 2 rounds, was sent home for palliative care, she was given 3-4 months. Fortunately we got a second opinion and found a consultant who enrolled her on an early access to medicine scheme for immunotherapy (nivolumab) which she started in March 2016. She received 2 years on this scheme, and from March 2018, she has received her treatment via the cancer drug fund. At a recent consultation we were told that you can only be funded for a maximum of 2 years by the cdf which means that her treatment is due to end in March 2020. This news came as a big shock as my partner has responded to treatment excellently and I have been told by her consultant that her response is in the top 30% in the UK. Not only were we told that her treatment is being stopped, but the worst news of all is that in the future if her disease progresses there is no way she can have nivolumab again, even though it has proven to work for her before. I find this position by nhs England and the cdf absolutely unbelievable, she will basically be denied life saving treatment because she has effectively used up her quota. Since hearing this news I have been trying to find other people in a similar position so we can find a way of getting these life saving drugs prescribed as long as needed, and not as long as budgets permit. I think it is not only unethical but also completely immoral to deny patients medication that is clearly working for them and something must be done to change this. If anyone has any information on how to get continued funding for immunotherapy for patients please send a reply.

Many thanks 

  • I am going through the same predicament as the last infusion for Immunotherapy ( PEMBROLIZUMAB OR KEYTRUDA ) will be finishing in mid May after two years of treatment. Though I haven’t spoken to the oncologist yet as to what next can be offered after this treatment.

    I shall be grateful if any one can give me the information regarding this predicament. 

    Thanks 

    Byron from Croydon 

  • My husband is 13 months in on immunotherapy and has been told another 11 months.  It seems it's all down to financial reasons and like others his response has been amazing after nearly being wiped out after chemotherapy.  So let's keep this thread going and see what collective action can achieve.  After all the money spent on covid 19 we should be able to have unlimited treatment.  Let's go for it via forums and collaboration with MPs.  We'll done.  Carol 

  • I too would be interested in how you're getting on. I have approx 8 mths of treatment left and then goodness knows what.

  • Hi, agree with you 100%. Please keep me in the loop regarding this. It's like someone has just pulled the rug from under me as I've been so good on this treatment , now I dread every day that passes as it takes me nearer to the 2 year limit.

  • Hi,

    so sorry to hear you are all in a similar predicament but pleased that you are responding well to the immunotherapy. 

    This feels like such an important issue and the situation patients are being put in is so shocking and needs to be changed. The petition we submitted last year sadly hasn't changed anything but we are still thinking about other ways to help.

    thanks and take care

     

  • I can provide some evidence supporting the idea that the two-year limit is purely financial, not at all clinical.

    My condition is brain metastatis (resected) spread from primary lung tumour. I'm on immunotherapy after testing VERY suitable. After two years the brain scans still showed a sliver of enhancement and the lung continued to demonstrate very low level FDG uptake. Basically I was good but not absolutely cured - stable, very lucky indeed, close but no cigar.

    Here's where the money comes in: I'm on private health insurance. So what has happened when finance wasn't an issue is that the Pembrolizumab infusions continued. I've been on it for over three years now, still stable, feeling good with minimal side effects but no "all clear".

    My thinking is that there are probably two factors in play here. One is that the doctors and hospitals are overwhelmed with the Covid thing, so if they can keep a patient on a holding pattern for the forseeable then they'll do just that until things ease up. The other is that taking an alternative approach (before the pandemic there was some discussion going on about using cyberknife radiotherapy to zap my ambiguous areas once and for all) now comes with additional Covid risks, which would be better avoided if there's a choice.

    So that's what actually happens when there isn't a two-year paywall.

    Kindest wishes to all
    SteveP

  • I am at the start of my immunotherapy journey but have been worried about it being stopped since I was told about the 2 year limit by my consultant. I believe cost must be the main factor as I was also told it costs £5,,000 per treatment or ££120,000 for the 2 years. If you have private medical insurance you ae able to continue with the treatment for as long as it works. Naievely I always thought that when it came to life saving treatment  the NHS would offer the same  help, perhaps not in such luxurious surroundings but it would be there. But I was wrong.

    I would be so grateful for any information that might help me when my 2 years is up. Also I am sure I read somewhere about a campaign to have treatment extended beyond this period for lung cancer but I have not been able to find out any more information about it. Please let me know. I feel so impotent just waiting for my time to run out. 

    Thank you and my very best wishes to you all.

  • Just as a matter of interest,  are there any  members on here that have gone on with or without treatment  after the 2 yr period? Does anyone have any advice for the rest of us? Thanks.

  • Hi Sally, you're not alone x

  • I was on a clinical trial and had immunotherapy for two years for stage 3 nsclc with pembrolizumab finishing in November 2018. I lost about 75% of my tumour. However, I was not allowed to receive further cycles even though it was s a condition of participating in the trial as they did not believe I would benefit from further cycles. My reaction was, while clinically plausible there was no data to support that belief but I was refused further treatment.

    The short answer, is that nobody knows what the optimum number of cycles are, but  Merck the manufacturer 'recommend' stopping after 24 cycles whereas the precription licence allows for continued use until disease progression while tolerated.

    The 24 month maximum is about making it a cost effective treatment for the NHS and for the manufacturer to market it on that basis in my opinion.

    I explored all the avenues for further treatment and even the NHS rule it out even though I never had any cyles from them in the first place. The only option for me would be privately, which would be in the region of $10,000 an infusion. Luckily, I'm still feeling normal, although no scan for 18 months due to covid -19 but if it becomes active again that's what I am looking at.

    Incidentally, Merck still have patients on their original clinical trial receiving infusions 8 years later.