Worried about an existing mole. May or may not be trauma.

Male 38yo

I have a 5mm raised common mole just above my left foot which has been there at least a decade. Last month when I got out of the shower I noticed it was bleeding. My skin around the area was extremely dry and tight and both feet had been itching profusely (I suspect because I'd been wearing socks in bed and they got really dry).  I had been scratching my foot to the point I caused some lesions that had previously been bleeding. 

Armed with this background info and a photo, my GP said it's probably just trauma but he'll book me a face to face appointment and if it looks normal before then, just cancel the appointment. This took 7 days but finally looked normal the day before my appointment so I cancelled (hopefully not something that will cost me my life), and breathed a sigh of relief. 
 

a few days later (about 3 weeks ago) I noticed on glancing at it that my mole looked somewhat redder and darker than before. If I press on it, it blanches (looks normal colour) then I release and a few seconds later it goes darker/redder again, indicating vascularity (some Googling on this makes me concerned it's blood vessels feeding something nasty).   Furthermore, in about the same time as it bled maybe a week or two earlier I started noticing a weird discomfort in my left groin or testicle area, I can't quite tell which. I can't feel any bumps where the lymph nodes are but it just feels odd, like a very dull ache - gentlemen, sort of like if an hour ago someone punched you down there and the pain has almost gone away, or say if you kind of squashed one of them.  Stupidly I didn't mention this at the time. Testicle itself feels fine.  This has me terrified that it's a melanoma that has already spread to my lymph nodes. 

Today I used an app called SkinVision and it says it's high risk and their faq says 1/3 true positive rate. And now I'm absolutely terrified!  Made another phone appointment but it's not until the 16th of April.  

Also the skin surface on the mole is very shiny/smooth/reflective. I don't know if just because it's newish skin, or another sign. 
 

what are the chances that it is still trauma and just still healing even after a month?  Is it normal for a mole to blanch like, ever, if it's not cancer?

 

Reading that a pop star my age is terminal didn't do my anxiety any favours. 
 

also how do you deal with the wait?  I'm thinking about it constantly, feeling depressed over it, trying not to get too close to people I may otherwise have an interest in as I don't want them to get attached to me only for me to die, etc. 

  • Hi,

    OK, take a deep breath & try not to project to the future until you know if you have a problem. 75% of patients seen by dermatology get a clean bill of health so it's not a foregone conclusion that you have melanoma or even if you have, that you are going to die from it.

    I can't comment on how your mole now looks as melanoma comes in all shapes, sizes, colours etc. Even a GP and a dermatologist can't tell with the naked eye. Your GP should refer you to dermatology & they will examine it under a dermascope which shows any cell changes. If they think it needs removing for biopsy this is because it's the only 100% way of diagnosing melanoma - many who have a biopsy get benign results (in the 7 I've had removed one was melanoma and the rest were benign). There is a chance the change could be due to trauma but it needs checking out. The good thing is that you've only had this problem for a month - you are getting it checked out pretty quickly (I left mine a year & am still here 25 years later) so if it is melanoma there is every chance it's early stage and can be successfully treated. Not all melanoma patients die, in fact new treatments mean that many late stage patients are living for years with the disease, so don't think it's lights out if it's cancerous! 

    Stop reading Google - it's feeding your anxiety and it's out of date - statistics are old and treatments have moved on. To get through the anxious wait try to distract yourself with meditation, mindfulness, exercise or just a long walk in the fresh air to clear your thoughts. If your anxiety becomes too much, try ringing your GP to see if they can bring your phone appointment forward.

    Good luck and please let us know how you get on,

    Angie (Stage 3 melanoma patient)

  • Many thanks for your input it does help me to ease up on the panicking a little! I will monitor it while I wait and try not to be too obsessive. I think I need to try and do something about my health anxiety as it's always something that I convince myself must be cancer!

    I'm extra aware of melanoma as I'm pretty sure that's what one of the bosses at work mentioned having and having a terminal case and you wouldn't know as he looks as healthy as ever.  Maybe this was something else though, I wouldn't pry. 

  • Thank you for this reply has massively made me calm down about my mole that has changed colour and was itchy. I am going to get it checked but as you said google has filled me with terror! Much appreciated hearing your thoughts and experience.

  • Hi Jack,

    I'm glad my reply has helped and I hope your appointment goes well. Please let us know how you get on.

    Angie

  • Still slowly making my way through the process after finally getting that second phone consultation last Friday.  The mole itself just basically looks slightly darker/redder than it did before I think (or it's my imagination) but definitely does get a fair bit darker/redder in bouts, depending when I look at it.   It's like it has flare ups.  Some photos I take of it do look pretty normal compared to when I took a photo of it a couple of weeks ago during one of the reddest looking bouts (it's an obvious difference on screen, so that much is not my imagination).  It just bothers me why would there be flare ups unless, well, unless cancers grow in bursts or something. 

    The first GP I had spoken to questioned why I'd come back to him about it (he seemed a bit irritated but maybe this was because I was flustered and not answering very well), but flagged it up as a change of appearance and set me up with a same day face to face appointment with GP2. 

    GP2 was going to take some pictures with her phone to email the dermatologist with but realised I take better pictures myself and to be honest the face to face appointment turned out it could have been done over the phone after all but anyway...

    Her comments were that they'll either ask me to monitor it or ask to see me but that normally if it's anything nasty it'll just get progressively worse rather than going back and forth between shades.  So once again this eased my mind a little bit.

     

    New call just now: Dermatologist has now replied and they want me to come into hospital for a better look and to probably take a sample and will send an appointment out sometime next week. 
    Naturally this has me thinking "oh no the derm must be worried" (when the hospitals have such a backlog right now, I'm thinking to pull me in is actually quite alarming) and I'm starting to get distracted from my work with anxiety again. 
     

    the wait continues...

     

    edit: I re-read the previous response and am at least trying to calm down a touch. Sounds like referral to the derm is the correct routine and a much better idea than emailing iPhone photos around.

  • Derm appointment today, he did note that there was an unusual amount of vascularity (maybe caused by the trauma maybe not) and that he considers it a dysplastic nevus "as in its misbehaving".  He offered the choice of leaving it and monitoring it, or having it removed, totally my choice.  I asked which he would do in that position and he said remove, so that's what I went for.  

    now the wait continues, about 4 weeks for an appointment for the surgery, then the wait for the results. 

    I asked how worried I should be in the meantime and was hoping for a comment like "don't be too worried, I doubt it's serious and this is mostly a precaution" but such reassurance wasn't forthcoming, more a comment that well, it is dysplastic so it is a worry.  I  imagine if cancer was strongly suspected he wouldn't have given me a choice though. 
     

    It'll be an excision biopsy rather than a shave type, I don't know if that is an indicator of its risk.  Will need stitches and leave a scar

  • Hi,

    It's good that you've had your appointment and that it's going to be removed as it really helps your mental health when the subject of the worry is removed. A dysplastic mole is pre-cancerous so they like to remove them to ensure the cells can't turn cancerous. The consultants tend to err on the side of caution and don't tend to give much away when it comes to reassurance, that's just the way they are until they get the biopsy results back. An excision biopsy is always done in these cases as a shave biopsy doesn't remove the whole mole which is important - it's no indicator of risk. All in all your consultation sounds like your results should hopefully be clear. Now you just have to distract yourself through all the waiting. Good luck and please keep us updated.

    Angie

  • Thanks Angie I appreciate the extra knowledge of how it all works, I know nothing is 100% (hence it makes sense that the consultant doesn't want to give false hope) and there is still a chance of bad news but it sounds promising enough to hopefully stay out of the panic zone in the meantime!

    Will update in a little while when the op is done and the results come through

  • Well, it's out. Results in 6-8 weeks (COVID delays etc). I was at a more local hospital, different derm... initially he said "this looks like it'll come out positive, when did you first notice it?" (wot no notes?) but once I said at least a decade ago and he knew it was an existing mole not something that has popped up recently his tune changed to "oh, well looking at I don't expect it to be anything nasty", he was very friendly and reassuring and told me not to lose any sleep over it while waiting for the results. 

    Excision biopsy and 3 stitches.  Dressing to be kept over it for 2 days then removed for airing. Leg to be kept elevated (I'm trying!), I didn't ask how long for but Dr Google suggests a few days.  Stitches out after 10. Advised not to drive at first and got a lift home but to be honest it's my left leg and I have no clutch (electric) so happy to do the 1.5 mile drive to work.  Can't put my foot up in the car so makes no difference. 
     

    The only thing that concerns me is it's been 13 hours now and it's not hurting at all.  The site under the dressing still seems numb.  Nerve damage maybe?  All I can really do is be careful, knowing that I might not feel any damage I'm doing. 

  • Hi,

    I'm glad to hear it's now been removed & that you are fine post surgery. Keep it elevated for 48 hours or longer if it appears to swell or bleed. 

    Any surgery that requires cutting deep into the tissues means that some nerve damage will occur so temporary numbness is usual but the nerves should start to recover over the next few weeks. Sometimes they never recover but that's when the surgery is extensive. As for pian - I had no pain from the melanoma that was removed from my shin or from any of the excisions I've had over the years - I think that's probably due to the location & the size of the excision. I think I must also have a high pain threshold because I needed no morphine or pain killers after my full node clearance from my groin & pelvis (a 15 inch scar)! So just be careful not to knock the area until the stitches are out!

    Hopefully the long wait for the results will be worth it & they bring good news. Take care & please let us know how the results go,

    Angie x