Post menopausal bleeding

hi I am 51 . No period in 3 years then stared to bleed heavily . Doctor admitted me for scan . Scan showed 6mm womb lining . Ovaries fine cervix fine have been referred for hysterectomy and biopsy . I am so worried .bleeding stopped after about 4 to 5 days . Has anyone been through this I am so worried at the moment thanks 

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  • Hello Luc50,

    I'm in a similar boat.  I am 52.  Hadn't had a period for 18 months, then had bleeding.  Went for an ultrasound and also had a hysteroscopy at the same appointment.  The ultrasound detected the thickness of my uterine lining was at 8mm.  The hysteroscopy showed fibroids.  They took a biopsy and I was told I would get the results in 1-2 weeks time.  It's 2 weeks today and after ringing I was told they have a backlog of typing and so no letter has gone out and they can't give me any information as yet.  My bleeding stopped just under a week ago so I'm pleased about that but the waiting game is tough.  Without having the bleeding, I have been able to forget about things a bit but on the whole have had a pretty rubbish few first weeks with dark thoughts and lots of crying.  I'm now trying to carry on with a positive attitude as there's not much I can do until I get some results.  It is very worrying but in the meantime I keep trying to keep myself informed so that when I get to talk to someone medical, I will at least understand what they're talking about.  I have also started to eat better and tried to lose weight - have lost half a stone in the last two weeks - as I understand that oestrogen excess can be caused by being overweight.  Have you had a hysteroscopy?  Not a pleasant experience!  If you haven't yet, and you have to have one, I only read after having had mine that it helps to take a couple of paracetemol before you have it!  And make sure you have someone who can drive you home afterwards!  I'm presuming that if my biopsy shows that it's got abnormal cells, then I'll be heading for a hysterectomy but if they're not abnormal, it'll be hormone treatment first.  Seems like you've had a different suggestion as to what happens next with your treatment but I would have thought they'd have to see the results of your biopsy before recommending a hysterectomy.  Or maybe they mean a hysteroscopy (the camera) first rather than a hysterectomy?  Anyway, I wish you all the best and to hear from you again.:)

  • Ho ladies.

    I've been down this route and believe me the waiting is by far the worst. Once you know what you’re dealing with, whatever that is, it is much easier. I was diagnosed with endometrial cancer in April 2018, had a hysterectomy, further surgery for removal of lymph nodes and three sessions of internal radiotherapy. I got my all clear in April of this year and am on regular checks now. 

    Just to say if you have  any questions now or in the future just ask and I’ll be happy to answer them based on my experience.

    Sending a virtual squeeze from my hand to yours.

    Sundial

  • Hi, 

    thanks for posting message Flo.  You sound like having similar symptoms after the procedure - I too took to my bed with a hot water bottle.  Didn't feel great following day, and took day off work to rest up, but been bit better today.  Some blood spotting still, but nothing major.  It's awful you didn't get any feedback from consultant about your ultrasound, but hopefully that means there was no signs of fibroids/polyps/cysts etc, or she would have told you??   The hysteroscopy procedure isn't nice at all is it !! and from reading other women's experiences, it seems that delivery of this procedure varies greatly from 'excruciating and barbaric' at worst... to 'painful but bearable' at best.  Seems to be somewhat of a lottery as to how the procedure is delivered with varying practices regarding use of anaesthesia etc.  
    We both have exactly same diagnosis so far then.  The thickness of my endometrium is between 6-7mm as well, and like you now awaiting results of biopsy.  Consultant did tell me it was possible that I've had a 'rogue period' even though it's 2 years since my last one?? and that it could potentially happen again in next coming months.  If so, I've not to worry apparently!, but if I go another 12 months with no further bleeding, and then experience another bleed, then I should ask to be referred again.  Out of interest... how long it is since your last period, and what age/weight are you?  I'm 53 next month and am around 2 stone overweight.  Also, do you mind me asking if you've had the Covid vaccine?  I've had my first jab (Astra Zeneca) on the 26th March then experienced the bleeding about 6 weeks after.  I'm not being alarmist, but the jab is the only thing different that I've had - no different diet, or medications, no stress factors etc. There is some evidence in the news recently regarding menopausal women reporting incidents of abnormal post menopausal bleeding, so it does make you question whether the vaccine could have caused it ??!!  
    Anyway... sorry for the long post.  I hope you feel ok tomorrow and if need be take a day or two to rest.  Hopefully we'll get our results back soon and will be in the clear.  
    Thinking of you... Murf xx

  • I have had a post menopausal bleed approx. 8wks after my astrazeneca covid jab, I am hoping you are right and this is the cause

  • Hi Billysdotty, 

    interesting that you too have had bleed after jab.  Have you had a consultation at all / any procedures done?  Wondering if you too have been told your endometrium is thickened?  
     

  • I have had a swab taken, and if that comes back clear, I will be having an internal scan.

    Have googled post menopausal bleeding after astrazeneca jab and there are quite a few cases, my sister works in a hospital suporting the vaccines and is going to ask about this tomorrow! 

  • This is BBC article I found re vaccine and possible side effect causing changes in menstrual cycles AND incidents of post menopausal bleeding.  There is a link in the article which you can follow to report any occurrences of abnormal bleeds.  I've reported my incident. 

    Covid vaccine: Period changes could be a short-term side effect www.bbc.co.uk/.../health-56901353

  • This is the link from the above BBC article to report any incidents of abnormal post menopausal bleeds.
    coronavirus-yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk/

  • Great... The more people report these occurrences, the more likely this 'might' get looked into, and then the pharma companies will have to look at the submitted data and consider whether to include 'abnormal uterine bleeding' as a potential side effect.  Let's hope our biopsies all come back 'regular' and we can stop worrying about a potential cancer diagnosis.  xx

    Will be interesting to see what response your Sister gets when she mentions it ??!   Have to say I'm not going for my 2nd jab in a hurry - if this could be an undocumented/unknown side effect, it makes me worry what else it might do.  

  • Hi Murf,

    Slept well, but awake early with cramping. Just feel yuk! Thinking I may need the day off. I'm a primary teacher and on my feet all day.

    So, in answer to your 'just out of interest' questions. I'm 5'9", about 3 stone overweight,  Had my first vaccine on 24th March (Astra Zeneca).  Our cases have so many similarities.

    I have changed my diet considerably. Switched to a WFPB (vegan but no processed foods) diet at end of March. I'd been having a lot of hip pain and was determined to loose weight and also I've suffered with depression since menopause and wanted to see if diet would help. Have lost 1.5 stone and have been feeling fantastic.  I have wondered if the change to super healthy diet prompted the bleed. 

    Oh, I came off the pill in Jan 19 and hadn't had a bleed since then. 

    By the way, I had no side effects from the covid vaccine, that I was aware off. I was on strong painkillers at the time for my hip so may have been masked by this. Haven't received second dose yet.

    Going to read the article you posted and register my bleed.

    Now just playing the waiting game until results arrive. 

    Take care,

    Speak soon xx

     

     

     

     

  • Hi Flo, 

    how are you this evening.  Hope you've managed to rest today, did you have day off?  I too work in a primary school as a teaching assistant lol .  I'm feeling much better today thankfully and only 1 more day til half term... yay .

    congratulations on your weight loss, that's brilliant.  I managed to get to my ideal weight in May 2019 as we went on a cruise to celebrate our 30th wedding anniversary.  Then during lockdown I put it all back on as I was comfort eating.  I def need to get the weight off again, but just can't get motivated.  
    Another thing I was wondering if you're experiencing is any abdominal swelling since your bleed?  My stomach hasn't felt/looked the same since my bleed.  It's very bloated and starts quite high up under rib cage - at its worst I literally look about 7 months pregnant.  Have you had anything similar?

    Anyway... hope you are feeling ok.  Enjoy half term - looks like we might be blessed with some decent weather finally   ️ .

    keep in touch - hope we get our letters soon.  
    Take care, Murf. Xx

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  • Hi Flo, 

    how are you this evening.  Hope you've managed to rest today, did you have day off?  I too work in a primary school as a teaching assistant lol .  I'm feeling much better today thankfully and only 1 more day til half term... yay .

    congratulations on your weight loss, that's brilliant.  I managed to get to my ideal weight in May 2019 as we went on a cruise to celebrate our 30th wedding anniversary.  Then during lockdown I put it all back on as I was comfort eating.  I def need to get the weight off again, but just can't get motivated.  
    Another thing I was wondering if you're experiencing is any abdominal swelling since your bleed?  My stomach hasn't felt/looked the same since my bleed.  It's very bloated and starts quite high up under rib cage - at its worst I literally look about 7 months pregnant.  Have you had anything similar?

    Anyway... hope you are feeling ok.  Enjoy half term - looks like we might be blessed with some decent weather finally   ️ .

    keep in touch - hope we get our letters soon.  
    Take care, Murf. Xx

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  • Hi Murf,

    I ended up staying home. Just felt drained for most of the day. 

    Tried my jeans on to go outside this afternoon, but it just wasn't happening. Definitely bloated. Opted for leggings instead.

    Feel much better this evening. Bleeding seems to have stopped. Just a bit anxious...all a waiting game now. Though I did look into the vaccine theory and it makes a lot of sense. Our dates are so similar. Do you have a date for second dose yet?

    It's not a holiday Monday up here. We get the early May bank holiday. But I don't work Monday's, just do a four day week which is great. Some sunshine would be fab

    Keep in touch xx

     

  • Hi Murf, 

    Just wondering how you are doing and if you've had your results through yet. Nothing this end but managing to stay positive. At least another week to wait here.

    Flo x

  • Hi Flo,
    Lovely to hear from you.  I'm still waiting for results too, which I'm hoping is a good sign - if anything was 'wrong' I'm thinking I'd have probably heard by now ??  Ditto for you hopefully too.  
    All bleeding stopped now which is also good and no after effects with infection etc, so all ok in that respect.  I am however still troubled by an uncomfortable feeling in my abdomen and it's still really bloated. Im also feeling hyper emotional/easily irritated and tearful (similar symptoms I had going through menopause, which seem to have flared up again ??) - though could be anxiety related perhaps, until get the all clear from biopsy.  
    How bout you... How are you feeling ?  
    Love Murf x
     

  • Hi there, 

    Bleeding from biopsy stopped after first day. Have been feeling super anxious. Trying to keep busy which, lets face it, is really easy in a school

    Came in from school yesterday, house empty, envelope from NHS so made a cup of tea and sat down to open it......thinking it was my results. Was my second vaccine appointment. So have that on Sunday. Will be interesting to see if I have another bleed. 

    Shouldn't have much longer to wait for results. I'm hoping, like you are, that if it was bad news, I'd have heard by now.

    Try and relax this weekend.

    xxx

  • Happy Saturday ladies, I am so happy that I found this forum as I have spent the last week googling and that was leading me to a dark place. I am 57 and passed though the menopause at 50 with relative ease compared to a lot of women. Last weekend I had some bleeding and rang the doctor on Tuesday morning who has immediately referred me under the 2 week appointment  system. I spent last night reading all the posts on here and I slept better last night so thank you. Hearing other women's experiences has certainly helped me to prepare for my appointment on 15th June. 

    Looking forward to a family bbq today to celebrate my nephews 30th so wishing you all a happy weekend and hope everyone who is waiting for results will get good news xxx

  • Hi Frankiesmum,

    I have found this chat so helpful. It's so good being able to chat with others who are going through the same/similar experience.

    Have a good day today celebrating your nephew's birthday.  Good luck on the 15th. Let me know how you get on.

    X

  • Thank you Flo25 x 

    It was interesting to read about the vaccine theory as well as I had Astra Zeneca on 20th March and I'm having my second one later today, before the bbq! Have you followed that up at all? I'll mention it at my appointment. 
    hope you get some good news this week xx

  • I didn't mention it at my appointment. It wasn't until after my appointment that I hear of the theory. 

    Keep in touch x

  • Hi

    i am 49 had my last period a year ago. The day after my second Astra Zeneca jab I had very light spotting. Phoned my GP and have been referred for an ultra sound. Have to wait three working days before I can ring and book it. Very scared, though reading everyone's posts has been helpful.  Just wondering if it is too coincidental with the jab. I've registered my side effects on Yellow. I don't have any other symptoms. Wish I did feel like it was a period as it would help explain it but really don't feel any different.

  • Hi bc5,

    I haven't had any other symptoms either except over the last week I have found myself imagining I feel like I've got a dragging feeling. I keep telling myself to try and get into a more positive mind place. Also I do need to wee a lot and if we go anywhere I need to plan around loo breaks but now I'm worrying that could be related to this problem rafher than an age thing - see thinking too much

    hope you can get your ultrasound booked soon. Everyone says that the waiting is the worst time and they're not wrong! I know that until I've had my appointment on the 15th it's not far from my mind, but it's really helping me knowing I'm not alone

    x