What to expect? Asymmetrical Tonsil.

I know this has been asked before, but it is always helpful to discuss again, plus each case is unique of course. 

I'll start by saying I'm 32 and a registered health professional, and to say we are the WORST patients is an understatement. I've spent days researching and, despite knowing many of the answers, still feel myself searching primarily for reassurance. 

Monday. My youngest son (6) said his throat was a bit sore and asked where his tonsils were, so together we looking in the mirror and pointed them out....this was when I discovered my asymmetric enlarged tonsil which, on an area of the tonsil has the appearance of a mucus retention cyst. The next day I emailed my GP and sent a photo, triggering an urgent ENT for the 21st of March 22. 

I've read some threads in this forum and so expect a nasal scope of all my upper airways on this first appointment as has been discussed in many of the threads. Should I be expecting any further investigation or scans at this appointment? It's at 18.20 in the evening so I am guessing not. 

What I am finding very confusing is that of all the images I have googled (and that is basically all that is available on Google at this rate) none have the swelling to the extent of mine with just a section of  mucocele. They're either all mucocele, or they're very less swollen (still with mucocele) in comparison to my own. Mine looks like a 2cm diameter marble sized tonsil with a section, around a 6th of the size, of mucocele. My fear is that the mucocele is camouflaging a worse underlying issue, but the rational part of me wants to believe it is just a mucocele and nothing worse. This is based on similar images (but not the same) and a reasonable medical mind (obviously rationale leaves us health professionals when it involves ourselves or our familis though, and I am trying to remember that!).

My question to this somewhat lies with, is tonsillectomy and biopsy most likely to happen here? I have frequently suffered tonsillitis and was always aggrieved they were never taken out at a younger age. I feel I have suffered needlessly over the years after suffering frequently preteen. This restarted again in my 20s. I have been to medical examinations in the past and incidental findings have been that I was suffering tonsillitis at some of these appointments unknowingly as I have had an absence of pain. I was told by a locum that frequent sufferers of tonsillitis can experience mild tonsillitis painlessly due to over exposure and this was likely happening at the time. I haven't knowingly had tonsillitis since approximately pre covid now but I have had a lot of issues with my teeth over the past 2 months though, so know this swelling is less than 2 months old as I was always looking in my mouth due to pain. 

Other synptoms I feel are relevant are frequent, very mild sore throat, I mean real mild, more like dry throat, very occasional feeling of a frog in my throat, struggling to swallow some tablets but not food and mild halitosis. I'm exhausted 24/7 regardless of how much rest I have had and I've had frequent ulcers/decline in oral health over past year despite frequent brushing plus a salivary gland that keeps blocking in the roof of my mouth. There is eft sided uvula deviation with redness and I have had very occasional mild ear ache on the affected side and tinnitus rarely too. My subclavicilar node sometimes is palpable too. On top of these relevant symptoms I've also a lot of small cysts in my breasts which were checked (and I was treated) appallingly. So much so I wish I had gone back and demanded to be checked again. 

I'm unsure how I'm going to battle my mind for the next 10 days but I would love opinions on whether people feel a tonsillectomy with biopsy sounds the likely approach here. I'm not sure I can handle the wait and see approach, and with some other symptoms (that I don't think are related) bugging me too such as LRQ sharp pains occasionally, two episodes of blood in my urine over the past 6 months, mucus in my stools, an itch on the back of my neck/hairline, a new neck mole and a suspicious looking mole on my back, I am not sure I feel comfortable with a lack of thorough analysis this time!!! I want the biopsy for reassurance and am looking for reassurance here that others think I will get it.

Has anyone ever explicitly asked for a biopsy to calm their mind? I'm aware of the horrific recovery of tonsillectomy, but with the frequency I contract tonsillitis and the airway and dysphagia issues tonsillitis causes me anyway... I feel it may be worth it. 

Apologies. I think I am delving too much. Any replies are welcome. All will be helpful, even if just for my morale. Thank you all so much and I wish you all the best with your own journeys. 

  • Hey There 

    Sorry to hear  you are in this unknown zone.  Your post seemed to mirror much of what I  have done in the past weeks .  I have had a sore throat for some weeks, well possible 2 months or so now the time has passed, sore throat was much of nothing though, got on with everyday life then about a month ago noticed it felt rough in the area, so for the first time had a look and noticed the left side of  my throat was totally different to my right.  Tonsil seemed pronounced but not hugely,  simply distorted .  Then noticed a slight swelling to the soft palate above and it seemed red and inflamed. I too have spent hours upon hours of googling images and nothing really compares to my throat,, unbelievable when there are hundreds and hundreds of images but you are right, Google is not ideal but you keep looking to match your symptom to something that is much of nothing and reassuring.. 

    Anyway , I went to see my GP and she referred me under the 2ww to ENT, this is when my anxiety really kicked in .  I had the camera up the nose etc nothing more, and the consultant said the lump was what needed investigation , so I am now one week post MRI scan and my biopsy  was under general aneasthetic (day surgery) Monday just gone.

    You are  probably only going to get the nasal scope and a visual examination during the ENT unless they think they can access any lumps easily without the use of sedation. They feel your neck and ask for a rundown of events.  I dont have any lumps or nodes in my neck at this time.  Occasional ear pain and brief tinnutus  ,no history of tonsilitus and I have not been ill at all  this winter.  The only thing I can closely relate to is having my 3rd Covid  booster jab just before Christmas and feeling a tad under the weather for the week following, soon after this the niggly throat kicked in.   All this seems to have come from nowhere, and the lump behind my soft palate seemed to grow quite rapidly from the time I see my GP to the point where eating started to be a challange.. 

    I think you will get a thorough examination at ENT .  I dont actually think my tonsil is an issue but distorted by the lump / lesion on the soft palate.   

    Do you have an ENT date?.. as mine was far quicker than the 2 week period they gave.  In the meantime , I am no longer on google.  I listen to mindful apps to help me sleep and relax and have now been prescribed something to help with my anxiety.. something i have tried to avoid but then I  decided to grab anything offered for this here and now situation. 

    I never knew anxiety before this , but my god it is a powerful thing and can consume everything .. 

    Hugs to you 

    Jo

    x

  • sorry, I just see your ENT appt date smh

  • Hi hope your ok,

    I too work for the NHS and have been taking this opportunity to look for TMI... with what my dentist said about my lesions which was a "reaction to covid" and "I'll be a good case study" is making me feel 10x worse.

    I've had swollen lymph nodes for 2 years now first on the right side of neck behind my ear, now all under my jaw have some raised at the back of my neck too. Not painful just uncomfortable and my neck is larger so it create creases. When I had Covid November 21 I literally couldn't talk for 4 weeks I developed laryngitis tonsillitis pharyngitis etc. Developed an extra lump above my left tonsil only by looking back at pictures of my covid throat I've noticed, multiple small ulcers in front of both my tonsils and a weird long red lump at the back of my right pharynx. Also worth mentioning all my sinuses are well pneumotised not sure what that means other than bone forming in them. I only went to the dentist this week as I had a swelling on the left hard palate that seems to have enhanced my bells palsy sxs now back on gabapentin which is helping the nerve pain thankfully, I have been referred to Maxfax which I'm not sure why to be honest appointment is this Thursday 17th have no idea what to expect I'm afraid but I am looking to be like you and want a thorough investigation as I've already had a previous 2ww experience this time last year , but now scared it could all be linked and spread :cry: :cry:

    I hope you get the answers you need 

    Take care 

    Chloe 

     

     

  • Hi sorry to jump on this post but just after some advice or to see if anyone else has experienced the same,so end of December last year,I noticed what I can only describe as a skin tag on my tonsil,I had just recovered from covid that week and that day had done a covid test,so when I noticed it I presumed my tonsil was irritated from doing the swap,I kept an eye on it just incase,just before new year I saw a doctor who referred me to a fast track ent,then while waiting for the appointment another lession appeared on my otheside of my mouth on the tonsil pillar behind the tonsil,it's like a small bean shape and the colour of my mouth.

    Saw the ent in January who didn't seem concerned at all,said she wanted to watch and wait for 3 months,my anxiety was so bad so I ended up seeing another ent at the beginning of March who has decided that I need a tonsillectomy for the one lession and then the othe lump an excision biopsy.

    So that leads me to now as I'm absolutely terrified as I have a fear of being put to sleep,and I'm I've heard so many bad stories from people about tonsillectomy,that I've actually stalled the operation,as the last ent said he doesn't think it's cancer but wanted to just 100% rule it out,my head is all over the place with wondering what to do for the best,sorry for the long waffle but I'm just so anxious 

    Thanks gina 

     

     

     

     

  • Hi Gina,

    I do have one tonsil bigger than the other after covid in November also my left tonsil has an extra tonsil on top too :cry:

    when I saw the maxillofacial she didn't seem too concerned about my tonsils it's more about the lesion or lymph node on my oropharynx. I had a phone call 2 days ago to say im booked in for an urgent mri 14th April :cry::cry:

    so a lot of waiting around while my lymph nodes in my neck are messing with my head I feel like they are growing but too scared to phone the Dr's again as when I rang last time the lady on the phone knew my name by just listening to my voice....

    being put to sleep is not so bad at least you get a nap :wink:

    I would go with it as I'd prefer to know what it is 

    Good luck x

     

  • Thank you for your reply,oh gosh I'm sorry to hear that you have got more waiting around before you have your mri,I know exactly what you mean about not wanting to ring the doctors again,they make you feel like your being a nuisance,but please if you are feeling that your lymph glades have grown,I would push to see if they can get you booked for a biopsy on them,I'm surprised they haven't suggested that for you in the first place.

    I'm glad that the lady doesn't seem too concerned about your tonsils,that's comforting at least,I hope you don't mind me asking but what does the lession they are worried about look like,as the one I'm more concerned about for myself is the one that's behind my one tonsil at the back of tongue,mine is pink in colour and its oval shaped and when my tongue rubs against it,it feel soft and squishy,not firm and hard like I've seen online when I Google.

    I hope you get answers soon,as I know how hard it is to try and carry on as normal with the constant worry in the back of your mind.

  • Hi Thanks for your quick reply 

    I've promised my husband I will phone on Monday if they still feel the same.

    The maxillofacial consultant had a quick feel of my neck by saying "I get what you mean" could be to do with the covid etc.

    The main lump that started my trio to the dentist in my hard palate has thankfully gone just seem to have a scar there now but the one I've had since covid is behind my soft palate upper right behing uvula I have to open my mouth wide to see it, its very red but not shiny how it was when I had covid it's oval the new thing now is I have a whitish streak coming off it which makes the back of my throat look uneven.

    I was self diagnosing cobble throat but she said nothing like that. 

    I can feel something at the back of my throat when I swallow I've been on a soft diet since a few days before my dentist appointment must admit scared to eat hard chewy foods now.

    It is very hard waiting I need to know everything yesterday" 

    I hope you get your answers 

    Do you have any dates yet?