Internal anal lump , hard about pea size under the skin

Terrified is how I feel at the moment . My anus felt a bit sore after wiping , don't know why but felt around in cas if I'd "torn it " and felt a pea sized lump under the skin about 1cm inside sphincter. I've never had piles , no bleeding , not itching either. Feels movable like a cyst but joined on , not swollen like a pile , rubbery like a lipoma . No one available on the chat lines , surgery naturally closed over xmas , can't just talk to anyone , no support , nowt. I've emailed my surgery for a request for an appointment but after the xmas break I am now going out of my tiny mind with worry. I can't turn up at A and E can I? Especially with this covid explosion. I feel desperate I only found it this evening and cannot put it down to anything else other than cancer , it just does not resemble any descriptions of internal piles , can anyone please help ?

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  • I found one of these four days ago, nurse said its a perianal abcess and got anti biotics for it, seems to be going down, she's checking it again on weeks time x

  • Hello and thank you for replying , that's really weird , I had an abscess about a week or so ago and it's just healing up on the front of my lady parts , it was really big and full of gunge which emptied . I wonder if I still have infection in me ? Oh well I suppose I'll find out sooner or later , just have to wait to be looked at , oh joy. Once again thank you . Can I ask what alerted you to the fact that you had it ? 

  • The hospital has been good , but they don't seem to talk to one another. In the endoscopy dept they were told on the report that I had a "polyp" !!! Where on earth did that come from? 
    I must admit I'm really fearful of what the ultrasound will find . But I'm resigned to just having to go with the flow as I'm just being swept along. No good questioning the "but what if it was because it did this or that " coz that will produce nothing positive except positive worrying. Nothing you do or say at this stage will change anything. 
    Any way good luck and here we go again ......

  • Well that has to be one of the most humiliating experiences ever.

    So not only did my doctor not take me seriously but the consultant just absolutely fobbed me off. He was so rude to begin with, we basically stood around really awkwardly briefly discussing my concerns and then when I went to lay down he asked me me what my anxiety levels were like. He suggested that my anxiety could be causing my health concerns. WHAT?! It was as though he was trying to suggest that I was catastrophising.

    Anyway, he examined me and at no point did he offer me the dignity of explaining what he was going to do. Once he finished he walked off and basically said everything looked absolutely fine and I QUOTE 'there was no lump there.' Pardon? The pea sized lump that I can firmly feel every single day apparently is some sort of figment of my imagination. I challenged him and honestly he just completely shrugged it off. He said he had no concerns, it all looked fine and that there was nothing there. When I explained to him that it most certainly WAS there he just said oh it could be some scar tissue from an old heamorrhoid. I've never had a heamorrhoid in my life.

    So to summarise hes said i have no lump, all is fine but if I do have a lump its nothing to worry about. LOL He did ask me how often I washed with soap and I explained everyday!!! He then suggested I move onto something a little more gentle on my skin to soften up my anus!

    I was genuinely just completely dumfounded by the entire experience so I marched straight to pals and reported it and then booked a private consultation straight away. I cant even begin to express how humiliating it was to be made out that im absolutely blinking crazy.

    I'm 33, I've only ever been to hospital for operations or referrals, I'm not someone who would EVER abuse the service. The only thing I can think is that it may be located in a funny area or because im so used to feeling it now it may not be so easy for them. Certainly when i am sat down I feel it far easier than if I am on my side. Whats more is I have now started getting tingling sensations in it. Not itchy or uncomfortable, just a sort of 'hi im here' pressure feeling.

    All I want to know is what on Earth it is so I can just move on and not have to think about it. 

  • Hello there ,

    what a terrible experience . How awful for you. It's bad enough thinking the worst , without some doctor whose supposed to  help and support you doing a dismissive ***** routine . I've got to say the DR that did my sig said , can't see anything but I can feel it ( having a feel before insertion of the tube )  I will recommend an anuscopic ? Look see-y thing. Do these drs really think you want to be lying there with your *** on show to the world and having a total stranger place there hands up your nethers ???

    Madness.

    I just hope that you resolve this ridiculous situation. You KNOW you've got it , after all it's YOUR body . What a complete buffoon . Sending you tons of empathetic feeling ....... and good luck ....

  • Honestly it was completely humiliating. Not even the procedure... just how I was made to feel. Like a complete and utter inconvenience. For a second bloody time. It was just so baffling, I was stood there genuinely gobsmacked thinking why one earth would anyone think I would put myself through this. I had a lump on my breast many years ago and my breast looked completely normal but there was a large lump in it. I was treated so wonderfully and had it completely explained to me and luckily it went away never to return. 
    I'm hoping that a private appointment will bring more answers but who knows. I drove away from the hospital so furious but then I started to think.. perhaps it isn't even anything to be worried about but then the voice of reason kicked in and said what if it IS something and you'd just been fobbed off. Luckily the voice of reason won on this occasion!!

  • I definitely feel that it needs to be investigated further , as your mind will go through the whole circus of "what ifs " you need to have at least another opinion . It was as you said quite humiliating lying there like a side of beef , but both the Drs I have seen at the hospital have been really courteous and polite , they also explained everything they were going to do etc. There always seems to be some thoughtless idiot though who treats you like you're a crazeeeeeee and a anxiety ridden person who cannot tell their own mind. Why are some drs like that ? My GP is a typical one of them , she might as well have the motto in a neon sign above her door " Don't worry , be happy " she's so flippant and dismissive I absolutely hate talking to her , full stop.

    don't let this arrogance scare you , book a private consultant if you can afford it , it may well put your mind at rest , or get a proper plan started. GOOOOOOD LUCK  

  • Hi did you ever get to the bottom of the lump please ?

  • Hello 

     -- presumably you don't mean any pun intended........

    the short reply is , No. 

    Being bounced about between differing departments of the local hospitals . Was referred for an endo anal ultrasound , then after deliberating the powers that be said it wasn't applicable , then referred to another colorectal department ( how many does one health authority have ? )another meeting with a professor ( yes )  he had completely all the wrong info from my lovely GP etc and was now mentioning words like "ulcer etc etc WOT??????? NOTHING is ulcerated !!!

    After a little chat and a little gloved poke around. He decided to refer me back yet again ( sigh ) in 2 months time for another poke , prod evaluation  as he reckons it's not a lump lalalalalala but is ( very ) subtle .His words not mine  I actually think it may have diminished in size but I haven't been poking it on a regularly basis , so it's hard for me to tell . He couldn't find it at first , I had to literally guide him to its precise place , but hey ? What do I know. So it is still not even identified. He said to me that if it had not gone they would investigate under anaesthetic and I was not happy about that I can tell you. So my fingers are firmly crossed that it is diminishing .
    Sorry I can't be of more help. But 4 months on , I'm still no wiser. 

  • Hi Tanksmum and Charlotte, I was just wondering how you both got on? I have very similar symptoms and an terrified  of anal cancer especially as I have a history of HPV

  • Hi there! Did you ever figure out what this was? I’m really worried, I have something similar :/

  • Hi Ohsweetwoods and welcome to Cancer Chat.

    I just wanted to stop by as I noticed you were hoping to get an update from Tanksmum.

    Unfortunately they haven't been on the forum in a while and this discussion, before you posted, hasn't been active for a year so you may not receive a reply.

    I really hope that won't be the case but if you don't hear back, you could try reaching out to others on more recent discussions or starting your own discussion about this topic.

    Kind regards,

    Steph, Cancer Chat Moderator

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  • Hi Ohsweetwoods and welcome to Cancer Chat.

    I just wanted to stop by as I noticed you were hoping to get an update from Tanksmum.

    Unfortunately they haven't been on the forum in a while and this discussion, before you posted, hasn't been active for a year so you may not receive a reply.

    I really hope that won't be the case but if you don't hear back, you could try reaching out to others on more recent discussions or starting your own discussion about this topic.

    Kind regards,

    Steph, Cancer Chat Moderator

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