Melanoma 2b

Hi, I'm writing for my Dad. He's 80 years old, independent and in good health but, obviously, feeling his age, so finds new situations anxiety producing and difficult to cope with. My mother has her own physical and psychological problems and is unable to provide any kind of support. Basically, Dad is her carer. I live abroad and haven't been able to come to the UK for almost two years because of Coronavirus. I speak to my parents every day by phone or Skype but ultimately only know what they tell me....
About the middle of July my Mum noticed what she thought was a suspicious mole bleeding on his upper arm. Time was wasted because the day she noticed it Dad had been in the middle of the raspberry canes pruning them and thought maybe he had scratched the mole. After a lot of insistence, because the mole didn't seem to be healing, he went to his GP. A nurse saw him and gave him an antibiotic cream and an appointment to go back in two weeks. After two weeks she said he would need it removed.
Appointment with dermatologist just to evaluate, not remove, the mole was for end September on the NHS. I found an appointment privately, and the dermatologist said it should be removed immediately. Op was done mid August, privately.
Towards the end of the month my parents went on holiday, assuring me that the specialist had their mobile numbers. Apparently not, because when they eventually returned home mid September they were "urgently" contacted by the specialist. The specialist said Malignant melanoma stage 2b and that he would refer Dad to the NHS for further treatment.
Appointment with NHS specialist was mid-October. Dad was told a wider skin excision and SLNB were required and that he would be called in about three months, so mid January. So we are waiting......., although the hospital he should go to has already been saying publicly that 'everything' is delayed because of Covid.
I have been reading this forum since the start of all this and would like to thank all those who write in with their own experiences and support.
My questions.
1. Always presuming that he is called in mid January it will be 5 months since the initial operation. I read that the recommended time between Initial mole removal and wider excision and SLNB was 3/4 weeks. How long did you wait between the two operations? . Is a five month wait normal, is it because of Covid or is this hospital exceptionally slow?? Apparently this procedure can't be done privately.
2. Dad has never been very convinced about this second operation. Now he is saying "it's not worth it, by now if it's spread, it's spread etc etc, what's the point of risking the side effects of a second op if it's spread already?" He says he checks the lymph glands under his arm weekly and they don't seem swollen. He also seems to be feeling better in himself than 2/3 months ago, although I know that doesn't mean anything. If you had the wider excision and SLNB could you tell me how severe the side effects were ...? If you decided not to have it done, were you offered other options to check on progression?
I'm trying to support him long distance, and would hope to come to the UK for his op but it's difficult to know how to reply to him. Any thoughts would be very much appreciated. Thanks

  • Hello. I'm sorry to hear your dads news. I've just been diagnosed with stage 1A which I'm waiting for my WLE so I can't give any advice from my point of view.  however, my Dad was also diagnosed with stage 2B almost 3 years ago. He was 73 at the time so no spring chicken. His melanoma was on his upper back so needed a skin flap. He was also given the choice of the SLNB and decided to have it done for peace of mind. Both the WLE and node biopsy came back clear so he's stayed at that stage. If it was found in a lymph node then he'd have been given immmunatherpy treatment. The operation was tough for him at the time but he came through it and after a couple of months was almost fighting fit again. My Dads operation was done within a month after seeing plastic surgeon. Me, it'll be a month from my diagnosis to seeing plastic surgeon prior to WLE. I waited 6 weeks for my results and was told it was backlog.  It's tough especially because you're in a different country and it is your dads choice on what to do. I believe if you don't opt for the SLNB you have ultrasounds or scans instead. I wish you all the best and I'm sure your dad will make the right choice for him. Take care. K x 

  • My wife was diagnosed 2a. She had a WLE and the SLNB which both came back clear. The SLNB is purely prognostic and helps stage the disease. 

    The time between initial excision and result was around 6 weeks. She then got the WLE and SLNB fairly quickly, around 3 weeks after diagnosis. We then had a further 4 week gap for the results 

    The surgery itself isn't too bad and it is usually a day procedure to have both the excision  and biopsy together, although as your dad is a bit older the specialist may prefer to keep a longer watchful eye on him. The biggest scar is from the WLE, I was surprised with the bruising it left her, she couldnt lift anything properly for 10 days or so (not fun with a 15 month old son!  The SLNB is not too invasive but you are at risk of a seroma, and infection after the op. My wife has some mild swelling which was reviewed by the specialist after 2 weeks but he said it was ok.

    4 months on, she does now potentially have Lymphoedema, this is a side effect of when the lymph system is damaged, I.e when 1 or more lymph nodes are removed. The risk increases with the more lymph nodes removed, nevertheless it exists even when one lymph node is removed. She is undergoing further tests  so it can be properly diagnosed and she will be referred to a lymphoedema clinic, although this will take 2 months and therefore self care and remedy is all she can do at the moment - Exercises, keep arm elevated and reduce salt intake.

    As for the decision to have the SLNB it is a personal one, but the melanomas ability to spread to the lymph nodes increases according to stage (breslow thickness, ulceration, mitosis). It is peace of mind to get the all clear and of course, should it have spread it will allow the specialist to put a treatment plan together as soon as possible. 

    It really is a conversation to have with the specialist, the higher the stage of the melanoma at diagnosis, the pros of having the SLNB will outweigh the risks of the surgery, but the specialist should give you all the facts, all the statistics and allow your dad to make an informed decision. 

    I wish you well with everything, if you have amy questions please do not hesitate to ask me.

  • Hi I just wanted to thank you for replying and update the situation in case it can be useful for others. My Dad was finally called for WLE and sentinel biopsy at the end of January. The initial mole had been removed mid-August. Since such a long time had passed and he was worried about the effects of the general anesthesia necessary for the sentinel biopsy and possible side effects he decided not to go ahead with that but just to do the WLE. Another ten days passed before he was called to do the WLE, a simple outpatients procedure. He had no ill effects from that. Results came back negative from the skin removed so fingers crossed it hasn't spread further. He has been booked a checkup for end April.

    I hope you are ok 1974, and that your wife's Lymphoedema has resolved LWAR. Thank you both for replying to my initial post, it was very helpful. All the best