vocal chord cancer (T1) laser treatment, need advice

Have had laser surgery in sept for early vocal chord t1 cancer and was told it was successful but a month ago I had a check up which revealed there has been a reacurrance ( though only small and on the surface) so have had more laser surgery in the hope that will do the trick as the surgeon says its too small to warrant radiotherapy. Has anyone else had this kind of treatment and is this usual?( reacurrance and more lasering). I'm very concerned that this treatment may not be working or that cancer may keep coming back, resulting in radiotherapy and the possibility of eventually loosing my voice box. I know its early days and I'm probably worrying too much but would be very grateful if there is anyone out there who can comment on this.

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  • Hi Zarker

    I had severe displacia of the vocal chords around 5 years ago and was told that I needed laser treatment immediately as it "was very close to cancer". I had laser treatment a few times and had to have biopsies done around every 2 - 3 months but in my case it had gone too deep so they could only laser the surface and it kept coming back. If you are a smoker you should give it up immediately as my consultant told me to avoid smoke at all costs.

    I went on to have larygneal cancer but I was stage T2-3 when I was eventually diagnosed. I was successfully treated with radiotherapy 28 months ago and touch wood everything is fine and my voice is better than it's been for years.

    On a positive note they are closely monitoring you and as you are at a very early stage hopefully they will be able to get rid of it with laser treatment alone.

    I wish you well and hope that the next laser treatment will be the end of it.

    Marion x

  • Hi Marion ,

    Thanks very much for your reply it was most helpful. I hope you don't mind me asking but how long was it from when they found displacia to you being diagnosed with laryngeal cancer? As this is what I think may be happening to me. They said inicially It could be treated with laser alone and after my last laser treatment yesterday that the return was on the surface only and did not warrant rdiotherapy at the moment and he had done deeper biopsys which he says hes sure arn't cancerous. This has as you know been a very difficult time for me as i'm so scared of loosing my voice or having to have a laryngectomy which I've been told is unlikely. i'm reassured to know that after your treatment your voice is now good. Thank you again and I hope you continue to do well. Andy

    p,s gave up smoking 5 years ago and after this will never go back to it!

  • Hi Chris

    I was so sorry to hear that you have to go in for another biopsy tomorrow. Please let me know how you get on. I expect you will have to wait for 2 weeks for the results though? Try not to worry as I have been down that road so many times and most of the time it was good news.

    I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you.

    Take care,

    Love Marion x

  • Marion, Andy, Joe,

    Hope your all well.

    Just a short update as to where I am after last biopsy. The dyspalsia is still there and the consultant was concerned at the frequency of the growths returning so he has put me forward for radiotherapy. I go for my first consultation on Thursday and then will find out what is going to happen.

    From what he was saying when I saw him last week I will getting the therapy for 3 weeks only so not a full course i presume. Part of me is nervous but in a strange way I am quite happy this is going to sorted hopefully once and for all as I am 90% certain it has returned already.

    The only thing worrying me is how my voice is going to be afterwards but to be honest it is awful now so fingers crossed for an improvement.

    I will keep you updated on how I go.

    Chris

  • Hi Chris,

    Sorry to hear that but I'm sure as you say, this will get you sorted once and for all so you can get on with your life. As you know marion had radiotherapy and has since got her voice back so i'm sure you will be ok. Since we last spoke my voice has been steadily getting worse and although my check up in april went well my last one revealed some imflamation so he has put me on steroids and antibiotics to help reduce it, and its been slightly better, but if that doesn't work I will have to have another biopsy by laser, so 1 step forward 2 back! I have a feeling that I may too eventually have to go down the radiotherapy route if all this doesn't work. guess we just have to try and stay positive and focus on getting our selves well. I do long to be able to talk properly, I watch other people do what I used to be able to do and they do it so effortlessly! I'm sure and hope it will be the same for us one day soon, may take a little longer but WE WILL GET THERE. All the best chris and hope the treatment goes well for you and it isn't too disruptive. Please feel free to msg me when ever you want if you fancy a chat. This site has been a god send for me as Its good to talk with others who are going through the same thing as sometimes I feel like the only person in the world with a bad voice! Take care mate, speak soon.

    Andy

  • Hi Chris

    Just want to wish you good luck at your consulation on Thursday and I'm so sorry that the news wasn't good. You will have to be fitted with a radiotherapy mask and will have a tiny "tattoo" on your chest so that can "line you up" for the treatment but all part of the planning that's necessary. Please do ask me anything you need to know about the treatment and side effects. I can give you my email address if you want so you can email me if you ever want reassurance or need to ask anything from someone who's experienced this nasty disease.

    You will probably find that when the treatment is all over and you recover, your voice will be much better than it is now. I have my 'normal' voice back and although I try not to strain it, my voice is perfect after having years of a very husky, hoarse voice. Ttry not to worry about your voice, the important thing is that you focus on the treatment and hopefully clear it up once and for all!

    Take care and please let us know how you get on after your appointment.

    Love Marion x

  • Hi Andy

    Sorry to hear that your voice isn't too good at the moment but last time you saw your consultant he was pleased so hopefully it might be better than you think. Have you seen a speech therapist? They teach you how to use your voice without straining it by relaxing your neck muscles when you speak. Saying that, I'm not sure that it helped that much really, although it did make me aware of situations to try and avoid (like being in very noisy environments).

    When is your next appointment?

    Keep in touch and take care.

    Love Marion x

  • Marion,Andy,

    Thanks for swift replies.

    It is very useful having this ability to speak to people who have been and are going through this. I am surprisingly in good spirits and looking forward to getting rid of this for good. It has been a long 2 years up to this point and as you stated Andy it is difficult watching people and families speaking normally and me on the outside having to concentrate on just getting a word out sometimes.

    I hope this does work and i will take the side effects if it gets me back to normal. I will keep you updated of progress as and when. One thing I did want to know Marion is will I be able to normal things when going through the therapy? Or does it knock you for six?

    Speak soon,

    Chris

  • Hi Chris

    I had 4 years of being monitored and I felt the same as you and in some ways it was a bit of a relief when I could finally get it sorted once and for all. I just wanted my voice back - I was fed up with people always asking me if I had a sore throat or "too much karioke?" which really used to annoy me!

    In answer to your question, the side effects are pretty horrible but I had my treatment 3 times a day for 2 and a half weeks so it was very intense. So by the end of the first week I had 15 treatments so I started to feel quite rough by then. The first few days weren't too bad so if you're having radiotherapy once a day then the side effects won't kick in for a couple of weeks.

    The worse side effect was (and still is) the lack of saliva and dry mouth. You really don't know how much you depend on it to swallow your food until you don't have it! I had to go into hospital at the end of the second week (30 treatments) to be tube-fed as I couldn't even manage to swallow water and I was very dehydrated. I ended up on the ward for 2 weeks and was about to have a PEG fitted (a tube which goes straight in to your stomach) but I was so adament I wouldn't have one that I forced myself to eat some pureed weetabix! I lost a stone once I came out of hospital as it was very difficult to eat and the pain was pretty bad. I was on morphine for a few weeks but that made me really sick so it was a vicious circle as I didn't feel like eating anyway.

    To summarise, you will be fine at first and then as time goes on you will be in some discomfort and you will feel very, very tired so try and prepare yourself and don't plan too far ahead. Just stay focused and beat this horrible disease once and for all!

    When do you start your treatment? I had to wait 6 weeks befor they could start as there's a lot of planning involved.

    I'd love to hear from you with updates Chris, if you ever want to email me at home it's marion.taylor27@ntlworld.com or otherwise keep posting as I'm sure Andy and others will want to know how you are getting on.

    Take care,

    Love Marion x

  • Hi joninty

    Sorry to see that you are having a bad time at the moment, how is the treatment coming on, I had radiotherapy for my throat cancer I had it for 6 weeks it want that bad at first but I was so tired after, like you I lost my voice but after a while it steadily came back people dont understand how it is it is so frustrating not being able to just say what you want.

    What did your specialist say did he say it is only Ti. if so the future looks good, has the treatment done the trick, all I can say is keep smiling there is always light at the end of the tunnel,

    If you want if you want to talk about it later after yor treatment I will give you my email if you need anymore help.

    love michael.

  • Hi Marion,

    Am having voice therapy at the moment but it doesn't seem to be helping that much. Sometimes when I'm relaxed at home and its quiet I can almost read something aloud normally but as soon as there is back ground noise and I have to increase volume it starts to break up. I think some of it is psycological as I tend to worry too much about how I will sound and then of course everything tightens up. My clients at work have been v understanding and are used to me sounding hoarse and don't mind which helps me relax but when I have to meet new people I feel very self conscious. Guess its all part of the course, I just hope the next check up goes ok otherwise I think its more lasering. Hope all is well with you.

    Andy x

  • hi Chris,

    Just wondering how your appointment went on thurs? Just wanted to say hope all went well and don't hesitate to contact me when ever you want during your treatment or any time. If you want to contact me directly my e mail is andy.moore8@sky.com and I have g mail chat etc. Sure you will be fine soon. My voice has slightly improved but still no where near how i want it to be as I noticed tonight in a crowded noisy pub watching the football, don't think anyone heard what I said! Anyway have a good w/e and keep in touch.

    Best wishes

    andy

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  • hi Chris,

    Just wondering how your appointment went on thurs? Just wanted to say hope all went well and don't hesitate to contact me when ever you want during your treatment or any time. If you want to contact me directly my e mail is andy.moore8@sky.com and I have g mail chat etc. Sure you will be fine soon. My voice has slightly improved but still no where near how i want it to be as I noticed tonight in a crowded noisy pub watching the football, don't think anyone heard what I said! Anyway have a good w/e and keep in touch.

    Best wishes

    andy

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