Cross with myself

So cross with myself that I need to rant. Sorry in advance!

I was diagnosed with Breast cancer mid August. While waiting for all the results from my biopsy, I did a lot of research. I did listen to advice and stuck to trusted sites, and read people stories. I am one of those people who likes to be prepared and understand each step. Problem was I scared myself silly with all the information and all the possible treatments, complications etc. My anxiety went through the roof, lost so much weight and was in a state.

I returned to the consultant to find out I had Grade 2 IDC, ER/PR positive, HER negative. Estimated 2-3cm with no indication of lymph node involvement from imaging. So booked straight in for SLNB and Lumpectomy with partial reconstruction. Discussed radiotherapy and tablets too.

Luckily only had to wait a week for op, my anxiety reduced, and distracted myself preparing for the op. Buying bras, pillows, cleaning, cooking etc. I was worried with all the possible complications and recovery, but I had started treatment and had a path to go down.

Luckily my op went amazing well, I do feel guilty saying that when I know so many people have issues. But I suddenly realised maybe things were not so scary. And I felt like I could do this. Then I returned for my post op results. Good news Clear margins! Bad news, 2/3 node spread and 4cm lump removed. I was gutted thinking chemo. But my surgeon never mentioned it. She discussed a node clearance or extra radiotherapy to armpit, and she would call me the following week after she discussed my case with radiology. 

I was at work when I got the call, extra radiotherapy! But now I was a candidate for chemo and was being referred to oncology! It was not unexpected, but felt like a bombshell. After a wobbly moment, I wanted to understand chemo, what happens, how it happens, tips, advice. So off I go again doing research. And yet again I scared myself and so confused! I am so stupid!

I have come across oncotype testing, which I seem to fit the criteria for testing. And have gone from accepting chemo to wondering if I will have oncotype testing. All of a sudden my anxiety has gone through the roof! And instead of looking at tips, I am now panicking and scared again. As I have no idea if I will even be offered this test.

I am now really cross with myself, but can’t get the questions out of my head and know I have a few weeks to wait! And instead of picking up hints and tips, I am frightening myself. Reading into all the negatives, sickness, hair loss, nail loss, etc. Especially as Covid numbers are going up and I have a child at school, and thinking we may have to isolated for months.

Please tell me I’m not the only one who does this. 

Sorry to rant, but I really needed to get it off my chest! Thankyou for reading xxx

  • Hi

     

    i just wanted to reassure  you that you are not alone with the anxiety and the cycle of looking for information then regretting it and panicking .  I'm new on here too but I've read a few posts where members have said Google information does not take into account your individual circumstances which is do true 

     

    i was diagnosed January and had an agonising wait until August for my surgery due to Covid so I know exactly how you feel .

     

    i got the onco test and did not require chemotherapy.  

     

     Good luck for your oncology appointment, I'm sure all your questions will be answered 

     

    xx 

     

     

  • Hi 11rolo

    Thanku for replying, and reassuring me I am not alone in looking at too much information. I am still very cross with myself as I know I should not have gone looking as I repeatedly seen, every case is individual, and my every intention was just to look for hints and tips but I fallen into the trap, and I did know better!!! Now its a case of trying to calm myself down.

     

    Poor you having to wait 8 months for surgery, that must of been horrendous. How are you doing now? Are you recovering well from your op? Good news about your onco test. Thats the bit that I am really worried about. On paper, I do fit the criteria, and do have a small chance to avoid extra treatment, but what if its not offered, or I am unsuitable......thats my crazy thoughts at the moment. I just wish I knew for definite....its the not knowing.

     

    Thank u again xxx

  • Hi Moonpuddle

     

    I think that was the problem, I did call the BCN a couple of hours after I was told, and felt she was useless. I wanted to know what to expect from the first appoinment with the oncology, what kind of tests could I have, what do I need to bring. Then if I moved on for chemo, what happens. I expected that was my path, and needed to understand what happens next. She told me nothing. By reading other peoples stories I learnt a lot more than my BCN told me. I know a lot of what I read may not even happen, but I felt more informed by others. But I also found out a lot more info out...and frighten myself.

     

    Thanku of you support in my moments of madness. I am starting to calm down, but still at very high levels of anxiety. I appreciate your virtual support xxx

  • Good morning !

     

    i am doing well following my op, I can't believe it's 8 weeks today !   I'm now awaiting appointments for radiotherapy.  I was in the grey area for that .  One of the margins had some pre cancerous cells in it so whilst not enough for them to say I should have it as the risk was still low, I said I wanted to proceed.  I hope I've done the right thing as I know it isn't without risks but I would have worried about lingering cells 

     

    sorry to hear your BCN didn't give you the answers you needed.  Is it worth phoning them again ? I know here there is a team of them and you may get a different one .  You may also be able to explain after reading google where your worry is with regards onco test and chemo.   It's worth a try and it might just make you feel so much better.

     

    Good luck and I wish you and everyone reading this post a lovely weekend x

  • Hi 11rolo

     

    From the very start, my surgeon always said I was going to have radiotherapy, and I never even questioned it. She said I needed it and I accepted it. Even with clear margins...although I am having extra now to the lymph nodes, but I was always going to have radiotherapy, so might as well have extra.

     

    I done my research and its again, not going to be nice. I picked up tips like drink plenty of water, have plenty of rest, soft bras, and ask about creams for burns. (Best one, which made me laugh was sanity pads for burns - but if they work, lets do it!!!)

     

    I spoken to 2 BCN now, and they both were a bit useless, more tea and sympathy than given answers. I get they dont want to say anything wrong, but it does make me look at things more. My problem is the lack of direction, at the moment xxx

     

    Glad you made the choice aboout radio, and your recovery well from your op, and hopefully your radio wont be too bad. xxx And again thanks xx

  • Hello , I'll let you know when I get my appointment and please keep sharing the tips !  
     

    let us know how you get on too xx 

  • Hi.  I read your posts and felt I had to respond.   I know EXACTLY how you are feeling at the moment.   The time from surgery to having a confirmed treatment plan is the worst!   The not knowing, the questions and yes the googling trying to anticipate what might happen, looking for studies, statistics or other cases that might be similar!   Aahhhhh it becomes all consuming and the only thing you can think about!   Diagnosed on 17th Aug with grade 2 IDC er & pr positive HER borderline. I had wide local excision and slnb on 9th Sept and had to wait 10 days for results.  Removed with just clear margins, clear nodes but HER2 still inconclusive!!!  Was told 20 sessions of Radiotherpy and 10 years anastrozole.   I drove myself totally and utterly insane wondering how they could decide a plan without HER2 results (which ultimately would require chemo IF they came back positive).   I finally had my appt with oncologist around 2 weeks after surgery and he was BRILLIANT!   He explained everything to me, reasons behind decisions etc etc etc.   My advice would be..... write down ALL of your questions.... ALL of your concerns.... everything that you can possibly think of now.   Then stop looking at google.  I promise you'll feel better just making notes and getting things out of your head and on paper.   Your BCN probably can't give you the answers but your appt with radiotherpy/oncologist will give you everything you need.   Do you have a date for this yet?   If you feel the urge to google, look back at the notes and remind yourself that the ONLY person who can answer these questions is the oncologist!

    this is a horrible time and the mental torture of this disease  is worse than the physical effects sometimes.   Unfortunately for any control freaks (like me) we have to learn to be patient and put our faith in the experts.    I was nervous about asking the oncologist questions but I soon realised that he was pleased I done some research and was prepared to challenge him .   Sorry for the long post but I really related to how your feeling

     

    take care xx

  • Hi Diggergirl

     

    Thanku for getting back to me and understanding! You are right, nobody can answer my question, except my oncologist and that's why I am so cross with myself! Everything you said, I knew from the first bit of waiting I did. (I had to wait for my HER results before they performed surgery) but I went against everything people say and I already knew, hence why I am so annoyed with myself. 

     

    Good news on your clear margins & nodes! That's really good news! Have you started radio yet? If so how are you getting on? 
    take care and Thanku for being so kind xxxx

  • Hi Kelstar.   Sorry for the late reply!   The last week has flown by (back to work before rad starts - soooooo bored at home!   And all the appts in between).

     

    had my planning session for radiotherapy on Tuesday.   Was easy enough.... saw oncologist (great guy), CT scan and the lovely "three dot tattoos".    Everyone at hospital were amazing and despite feeling a little nervous walking through the doors they quickly put me at ease and I actually enjoyed the banter with them .  It is weird how it suddenly hits home as you walk into the hospital.  
     

    was a bit shocked when oncologist told me that they had only achieved 0.3mm clearance on part of tumour!!!!   He said normally they would do further surgery but didn't want to as it would mean cutting into chest wall.   Instead they will do boost.   So hence 20 sessions rather than 15 starting 21st October.   Just want to get on with it now.   
     

    been on anastrozole now for about three weeks and "touching wood everywhere" I seem to be ok.   Some hot flushes at night and difficulty sleeping but if this is as bad as it gets I'll be dancing in the streets (after reading some of the horror stories of people on it!)

     

    how are you doing?   Any news about your treatment plan... did you get the oncologist test?   How are you fairing from surgery

     

    sending best wishes xx