My life so far living with Neuroendocrine tumours.

Hello Again,

I have been off this site for some time now and thought I would update my history. Don’t think I have not been active during this time with my NET Cancer that I have luckily and fortunately had the right people at the right time.

I have been boosted at my very busy cancer hospital by two NET doctors one being an Endocrinologist and the other a Net Specialist.

I believe that this is paramount for anybody suffering from a NET to get referred to one as soon as possible after diagnosis to give you a much better chance of survival. I know that this is not always the case but if you can get a Doctor is forward thinking and you research the subject and politely advise that this is not possible for various reasons but certainly appraise them to look up Neuroendocrine tumours from recognised sites.

You can get a vast amount of information from the NET PATIENT FOUNDATION site a centre of excellence where there is a shortage in the UK. They have a booklet that can be purchased at a small cost and this is an excellent reference to NETS.

I won’t go into dates, but we are talking over the last eighteen months/two years. If you have read my story I have been very lucky as I should have passed away twice in that time, but I am still here, thank God for the last twelve years with my cancer returning after 5 years but still surviving.

The point is AWARENESS and NEVER GIVE UP. By no means has this been an easy time for Myself and my family who have also been affected by this nasty horrible cancer that grows anywhere in the body over time and mimics other illnesses such as IBS etc. I have had most of the drugs for my cancer and coped reasonably well apart from one that out of a massive long shot I was on the drug EVEROLIMUS.

At this time my immune system was low, and I caught a life-threatening brain bug Encephalitis four years ago but survived again with an effect on my family as it threw my whole body into turmoil. I had to give up work as a serving Police Officer for 26 years. I caught epilepsy and could no longer work or drive.

This was a very traumatic time but the family as still all together. It was a rare side effect but hit me very hard physically and mentally but for several reasons, determination, a great family, excellent care team along with my family.

After a period had elapsed my options were running out and my team saw that the cancer funding was moving to my region.

My excellent Specialist recognised this and sent me to Sheffield where I saw a Doctor and despite nearly dying accepted on the course when it was due to stop two weeks later by the NHS. He said to me that he would give me 3/4 treatments, and this was managed by an MDT.

I will not go into treatment details as this can be researched under PRRT Lithium 90 targeted radiation

The treatment details can be located on most trusted sites.

Despite my very poor health I was amazingly accepted for the PRRT Y90 DOTATATE Therapy treatment by Specialist Doctor. The procedure involves receiving an infusion of the hormone octreotide linked to radioactive Yttrium-90. This is made abroad in the EU and transferred to the United Kingdom where it was shipped to my hospital just in time for each treatment.

This was a massive boost to Myself and my family including my Wife who is my rock and could have never had progressed with out her love and help.

Everything was going well, and I had eventually had seven treatments that was extremely costly and provided by the fund.

There are issues why the drug was removed from the NHS as this is subject of on going discussions to have it placed back on the list as it is vital to some NET patients who need this treatment.

The treatment was centred on my lungs where the cancer had returned and was in operable.

During the time of the treatment we believe it reduced the size of some tumours and reduced the density of one of the larger ones.

I am due to have a CT\MRI in May 2018.

I had the treatment for nine months and it was decided to stop the treatment at this time due to the potential risk to my kidneys.

At this point there was no issues whatsoever with the Doctor, staff hospital or PRRT Treatment.

The results were very pleasing, and it was expected to suppress cancer for an unknown time and at this point my health was good and I could exercise and do a lot of things that I was unable to perform prior to the targeted therapy.

Everything was fine until a period later my potassium levels were starting to affect my kidneys, and this continues today with my Specialist recommending that I avoid certain high potassium foods including. Bananas, fresh yogurt tangerines and more foods that may cause me problems.

This involved frequent return visits to my hospital to have my blood levels checked on a very regular period and following sum low results I was admitted to hospital to allow the staff to administer treatments to get the amount down prior to leaving the hospital.

I was also advised to drink water at regular intervals to help my kidneys that were also struggling to clear creatine that was remaining and was causing blockages.

I have also had issues with my sodium levels.

I omitted to add that I have taken the lanreotide injections for some time that involves a cancer restricting treatment.

This has continued as it was not known whether PRRT or the Lanreotide was working. That remains the current situation and I am now on the injections below once per month at my local hospital.

In April 2018, I had a routine appointment with my endocrine Specialist who conducted a hormone test on Myself that was conducted in the Chemo therapy day unit at the hospital that took about forty-five minutes. This included injections in my arm but that was not a problem to Myself.

I received the results of the test in May 2018.

It concluded that I was producing a very small amount of the important body hormone cortisol.

This hormone is responsible for many important functions on the body and it is not known how long I have been without it?

I am now on Hydrocortisone Auden tablets three times per day and this acts a replacement for my lack of cortisol.

I have only been on these tablets for a week so at this time I cannot add anymore details at this time.

My NET Doctor concludes that my kidneys are still working but need assistance with added water intake from Myself and may need visits and treatment to my levels when they become too high or low?

The Doctor also does not believe that it is due to my NET cancer but the possibility that it may be down to my time obtaining PRRT treatment?

I know that the drug had completed trials a short time earlier.

I am still training at my local gym to keep exercising as I believe that if it is possible to maintain a healthy lifestyle to cope mentally and physically with the situation.

The two weekly checks on my levels continue and I have the fortunate circumstances of a Councillor who was adopted via my Specialist with a referral to my GP and the Counselling is known here as ‘LETS TALK’.

This is to try and help me with being kind to my family but being also able to deal with all the medical, appointments, admissions and new medications. Also, to cope with my day to day life.

This is not proving very easy at present as I have having massive personal move swings.

I do not know If my cortisol tablets are working but I have managed to cycle to the gym this morning and do an hour worth of exercise.

Please except my story as an example and at times it is very hard but please take from it what you want.

NET Cancer is an extremely hard cancer to treat due to the wide range of symptoms and where it is situated.

All I can add for some reason I am still here living a life.

It is very frustrating not being able to drive, work and ride my high-powered motorcycle with my Daughter creating great memories that are now with us.

I must be realistic and not selfish and realise I cannot do the above things anymore.

PLEASE IF THERE IS A CHANCE NEVER GIVE UP AND TRY TO GET A GOOD AWARENESS OF HOW YOUR CANCER ACTS AND THE TREATMENT OPTIONS THAT MAYBE BE AVAILABLE?

Some of my dates maybe slightly out but I have done my best to help.

Thank You

Dorro1.

  • Hello Dorro1,

    I just wanted to stop by and thank you for updating us on your situation.

    I'm certain your strength will serve as an inspiration to many here.

    Best wishes,

    Renata, Cancer Chat Moderator

  • Hi Dorro1

    Thank you for your post, as after 15 years of illness I've been diagnosed with an Neuroendocrine tumour of the pancreas.  Op has already happened to remove it and secondary from lymph nodes and liver with chemo starting soon to shrink rest of liver tumours, before further op. 

    It seems this is a fairly rare form of cancer, and I struggled to find many people to chat with in this, but I have had fantastic support from my specialists but a scary time after 15 years of waiting, but I am incredibly positive for the future and it certainly sounds like you are a fighter too.

    Wishing you all the best!

  • Hi Lizzie,

    I have just typed out a page of information for you but for some reason it has been lost but i will give you the main points that will help and assist you.

    Firstly, if you have not got a NET SPECIALIST DIOCTOR then please make an appointment with your GP and ask to be referred. This is very important as they know a lot about this rare cancer as to some doctors do not have the same knowledge.

    Please find below a site and one of a few centre of excelleces in the UK.

    They have a wealth oif experience and are a small but great team.

    NET PATIENT FOUNDATION Tel 01926 883 487. They are also on Facebook.

    Please read the site and utilise any help you need.

    They are a very caring team who are well educated in NETS

    I have to go out now but please do not hesitate to contact me again.

    Please view the NET information i am confident you will get answers and information.

    I have had this for 12 years and have a lot of information.

    There is also a patient on line called RONNY ALLAN he is also a good source of information and again has had a NET for some time.

    NEVER GIVE UP!

    Best Wishes

    andydorro1

     

  • Hi

    my girlfriend was diagnosed with a P-Net Ki67 >20% high grade tumour that was spread (stage 4) around 5 weeks ago. 
    She starts chemo on Monday. Heavy platinum based, due to how far along. She is in constant pain, managed by pain killers. 
    I'm told immunology is not an option but have been reading about the DART trails

    Also has anyone changed diet to plant based post or pre chemo and seen any results? 
     

    thanks 

     

    wasser

     

     

     

  • Hi Waser,

    Apologies for the delay.

    First of all she needs referring to a NET Doctor a Specialist into this rare cancer. If that has been done excellent. if not, and no disrespect to yout Doctor they may not know about how complicated these tumours can be if not dealt with as soon as possible.

    The pain killers are good and i am not aware of that chemo option. 

    There are a lot of treatments out there including PRRT radiation treatrment dont know if it is back on the NICE list to adminster. I have mine in my liver and originally in my spleen the size of a cricket ball. I dont want to advise you anymore as new treatments are available. just do what i have stated above and insist that its what you want if not already in place. A NET Doctor will know all the systems ansd treatments. the only difficulty is there are not too mant about due to numerous reasons but try and get one.if not do what the GP says and read up on the internet ON PROPER RECOGNISED SITES CRUK, MCMILLAN AND NHS etc. if you look at others there is a good possibility its wrond and you can get scared. Another very important site with stacks of information on NETS and back up by trained staff Neuroendocrine Cancer UK . They are all here to help you and what is not on their site is not worth knowing they are the experts and have loads of vital information for you. I have been doing this for 15.5 years and it is not easy but stick in there and what ever you do NEVER GIVE UP. I nearly died 6 years ago but out of the blue a treatment came along so kept going. That is all i can say at present because NETS are all different. They can be found any age, anywhere and often by chance. If you need anymore then let me know. i would respetively discuss with your Doctor and see what they say be nice but keep going? Good Luck and i hope my input has been useful to you

    Andydorro1

    Dear Jenn,

    In these cases removing such a valuable consultants details is potentially taking away a persons chance of a cure or prolonged survival. the deails are hard to locate and these patients need help when it came to me 15 years ago when there was only one Specialist who was great and still friends today. The Specialist is the main person in the UK who knows this cancer along with his team very well. I appreciate the guide lines etc but this is a very rare cancer and only now is it being placed on web sites such as CRUK as awareness is being promoted after a long time.They can find the full details on the web themselves advertising his services. The patients need to know the details to make a concise and considered decision.

    Kind Regads

    Andydorro1

  • Back again, 

    Speak to you Dr and see if there are any clinincal trials that maybe available?

  • Hi,  my husband has been diagnosed with Neuroendocrine cancer.  The primary is small cell lung cancer.  It is also in his liver, adrenal glands, lymph nodes and bone,  He found a small lump on his neck early December, we've been told,it is very aggressive. Not got any comparison ct scan results yet.  Had to have emergency radiotherapy for the tumour on his spine.  Round 3 of chemo starts next week.  We've only every met 1 consultant.  But we've been told,he has a MDT team.  We have not been given any options for treatment.  He has IV day 1 with 2 days of tablets following.  
     

    It's all new to us.  What do we need to do?  We have a Macmillan Nurse, chemo team telephone numbers and consultant.  All of them we have only met twice.  When they say they are booking ct scans and consultant appts we never get anything booked.  They even forgot to book his 3 rd chemo until he failed to attend an appt of which we were to,d was cancelled.     Help please. 

  • I have put a lot of information on my previous threads.

    Your consultant may be good but do they respectively understand NETS. If not try and get refered to a Neuroendocrine Doctor or NET Doctor. The Doctor knows how to deal with this rare cancer. What you need to do is to get more information so that you undestand the cancer more.

    Another good area to find out lots of information is
    Net Patient Foundation or  Neuroendocrine cancer UK as they are changing their name. This team of people know a vast amount of NET information and support sevices so you are not on your own. Do not try other sites but stick to the ones i have stated as these are respected NET Sites.

    I hope this information helps you if not come back to me but i am sure if you read the information that i have provided it will give you a better understanding of this rare cancer.

    An MDT team meeting is were all the Specialist people dealing with your Husband to discuss his case and how to progress?

    You can find all this infirmation on CRUK ,NHS & Mcmilan sites search MDT you will get a full outline on what an MDT entails but it is a positive step for your husbands case. They are a group of Specialists from all fields.

    All the very best

    Andydorro1

  • Hi Andy, 

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