Tongue Cancer - Diagnosed two days ago

Hi, I am a 32 year old single mum to my two year old daughter and I found out two days ago that I have tongue cancer.  I'm waiting for an appointment for an MRI scan and a CT scan which should hopefully be within the next few days and this can find out if the cancer has spread.  I then have to have an appointment to discuss a treatment plan but I have already been told that this will involve cutting out the lump in my tongue and a neck dissection to remove Lymph nodes.

It's all such a lot to take in and I'm trying to come to terms with the fact that in a few weeks time my life will never be the same again.  I have read some horrific stories about what I have to come and I am willing to face any of it so long as I stay alive for the sake of my daughter.  I have only told my parents and one friend so far, no piont telling everyone until I have more facts after the scans but I'm concerned at how far the cancer could have spread.  I have had this painful lump on my tongue for six months but the doctors kept giving me prescripotions for other things which has delayed diagnisis.  I have also had pain in my throat and more recently I've noticed ear ache and jaw ache and neck pain.  I'm trying to stay positive until I know more information from the scans but I know I will crumble if it has spread beyond repair.

From reading stories from others on here and other websites, I'm a little confused that I haven't yet been told what stage the cancer is at.  Isn't that something that could be identified from my biopsy?  How could the doctor be so sure that I will need a neck dissection before knowing what stage it's at?

None of this has come of much of a surprise.  I googled my symptoms of a persistent ulcer back in April, before I first went to the doctor and was alarmed to see the word "cancer" everywhere I looked.  I had all the symptoms but was just hoping I was wrong.  The first two doctors I saw about this reassured me that it was nothing more sinister than an ulcer, which put my mind at rest a little, how wrong were they?!  I am just glad that I stayed persistent and kept going back to the doctor about it.  I don't think they treated it as an urgency as I don't fit in with the usual risk factors, I've never smoked, I hardly drink and I'm not in the right age bracket.  I'm now feeling annoyed at the waiting game.  I want to know when the scan will be.

It helps to come on here and read other threads but I still don't think it has fully sunk in yet but when it does, positivity for the sake of my little girl will just have to get me through.  I would love to keep hearing stories from others or any advice would be greatly received.

Nicola xx

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  • Hi Nicola

    I just thought i would drop you a line as I have been chatting to simon who appears to have gone through the same thing i am now facing

    At present I have a secondary site in my lymph node on the right hand side of my neck ... they can not find a prime site I have had multiple cameras and tubes doen my throught had a ct scan and a PET CT scan and no primary site found ... I am now going into Addenbrookes on monday for multiple biopsies from the back of the toung throat and a scape of the tonsil area (although i had them out when i was 8) before they assess my treatment plan

    At present i have been told that they seeno need to operate and think the lump can be dealt with ... via the 6 week of chemo and radio therapy ... so you appearto have had it a lot worse than myself

    I know what i have and accept it and like where Simon was i just want to get on with it and reading your and Simons posts has given me a flavour of whats ahead ... i know its different for everyone

    Im just trying to get a perspective on what i am now facing and how long im going to feek crap for as i have a business to run and am trying to put in steps to limit the impact of my absenses

    regards

    Gary

  • Hello everybody,

    Sounds as if everyone is doing well especially Gary. Have you finished treatment now? How are you feeling? Sounds as if you have coped well, how was the cookie? There was no way I could have eaten a cookie at this stage with a frazzled tongue! As for being bunged up, Laxido was what I was prescribed, it seemed to help. Strangely I've still got them as well as some other meds, I feel weird about throwing them away but I'm not sure why I'm keeping them, kind of a safety net I suppose. Keep me updated with the Leeds meet up, I love Leeds. I will try and make it if I can. You sound as though you have escaped the phlegm issue, I still get a sticky mouth first thing in the morning but the phlegm problem settled down a few weeks after treatment.

    Simon, I've noticed an improvement with food too. I eat three meals a day most days now which helps the fatigue. Pleased to hear you say you have days when you feel like you've never had cancer, I look forward to that. I'm still waiting for my peg to come out, I have a tongue check up next week and I'll be making my disappointment known, I just want it out now. The referral should have been done almost eight weeks ago so it's time to make a bit of fuss I think! I'll be glad to be rid of it however every time something comes to an end and its another step closer to being normal again I get a little wobbly. I suppose like you were saying, it's all been a safety net and when it was time to have my PICC line out or stop meds etc I felt a bit shaky. Sounds as if you are back into the swing of life which is great, I hope you get the help you need with the night sweats.

    Irene, sweet potato chips are a great idea! I will try that. I find regular chips too dry too and I can't have ketchup as it stings but I did try chips and mayo but again was still too dry. I add caramel syrup to my coffee and a big spoonful of sugar, otherwise I can't taste the coffee alone. The worst times are in the evenings when I fancy picking at something nice to eat. I used to have chocolate or cakes/biscuits, now it's rice pudding with a dollop of jam but it all takes so much more effort! Sorry to hear about the episode of blood, perhaps something was a little harsh on your throat which made it bleed. I know my throat is still ever so raw and wounded. If feels as if someone with long nails has scratched down the inside of my throat and the same areas seem to sting most when I get brave and try something a little spicey. It was also very sore when I had a bit of a cold and cough recently.

    Gary, I'm sorry to hear of the position you find yourself in because of cancer. None of the treatment is pleasant but it is manageable. It does get depressing at times especially if you are unable to eat but you just have to keep reminding yourself that it won't be like that forever, only three months ago I couldn't ever imagine eating normally again but I'm already tucking into meals. In terms of time off of work etc, I didn't work at all throughout my treatment but that was due to the major operation I had a couple of months before my treatment started and I was told to expect a minimum of four months of recovery time from the surgery alone. However I did meet another person having the same treatment as me and he managed to continue working through most of the six weeks, I believe his job was partly physical. I would suggest putting steps in place to ensure you don't have to work and if you can then its a bonus. You never know how you'll feel from one day to the next and it can be quite exhausting. I know I couldn't have thought about working when it was happening for me, I struggled for three to four days following the chemo each week but everyone is different. Also, try to remember that the recovery for a few weeks afterwards is when you will also need to rest. It all sounds like such a lot to think about in the beginning but as long as you have help and support, it's only a short time of your life that will be disrupted. You'll be back at work and back to normal before you know it! I hope all goes well on Monday, let us know how you get on and please feel free to ask any questions. I'll be thinking of you.

    Speak again soon,

    Nicola xx

  • God the cancer forum is turning in to a computer class lol only joking folks How are you all ... good, getting better or not too bad i hope I am on the up, well been doing better than i have and i can see and feel improvement, but i understand there is a way to go yet. Loving my new svelt 3 stone less figure but losing that weight also took all my muscle with it too and i find that i can't walk around town for more than an hours before my back starts tensing up and cramping ... that what 4 months practically laying on you back and doing nothing ... but trying to get well ... does for you is suppose like the thread in here i still get oral thrush even though i use a billion solutions daily ... that saliva stuff is magical ... what. Nicola hows work ... i found it very tiring ... mentally it knackered me out but after finishing treatment on 15th Aug i have now just done my first full week at work ... 3 months on ... and it kills me by the time i get to friday ... but i don't have the luxury of not doing it .. got to earn the pennies so how are we all i have not heard form Guzzle and Simon recently so hope all is well there I am slowly getting used to this site, but only because i don't want to lose contact with the great friends i have now made on here chin chin all
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  • Hi Nicola, 

    I hope you are well. I have not had any results back yet, but my tongue has gone down to half the size it was in hospital, and I can eat solid foods using the right side of my mouth. I have my results soon so will keep this updated.

    I myself should be going back to work soon and I have decided not to talk about it with people unless they ask. I think you had a lot more to go through and it must get annoying keep explaining it to people. I used to think people who have had cancer would look a certain way etc but I have seen many others when I go to hospital and they all look fine like they have never been ill. I must admit I found it hard before I got it to understand why someone could be ill when they look fine on the outside. But my whole way of thinking has changed since then and I understand it alot better.

     

    Will keep in touch thank you for replying.

     

     

  • Hi Roz Dog i have found that being ill and looking ill are two different things .... i am not just over 3 month post chemo and tomotherapy and although i have lost a lot of weight, people actually say to me ..."God you look well" at a stage in my life when i most probably the frailest (if that's a word) i have every been. I am sure all of you that are on the mend go through you own routines in the morning and at night, especially us who have had oral based cancers ... the constant cleaning with multiple fluids .... its something i thinks is now with me for some time to come. I would say it takes me an extra 45 mins to get out in the morning as i still have to nebulise morning and evening, then there is the moisturiser and all that guff on top So i think outwardly we may all look good or better, but it takes a bit of work to get there.... however we are al very tired and that's something people dont see ...only my wife sees how tired i get from work and even just walking is a limited luxury So I have got to the stage that i don't need to tell people how hard this is, let them stay blissfuly ignorant to the fact .. unless they ask, but unless you have been through what we have been through, or supported someone, people dont understand the gravity of it... but i thik that's ok We all stilll keep going and that's the main thing ... i think
  • Yeah Vatch i woould agree, but I could not understand it fully as I have had a pretty easy ride with it.

     

  • Hi Guys,

    Bit of bad news but not major, My neck biopsy results came back and there were some cancer cells within the neck nodes.

    They are going to remove all of my nodes from the front of my neck to make sure its all gone. Providing they are free that should be it, if they find any then it will be radio but I will cross that bridge if I come to it.

    It would of been done anyway had I been anywhere else in most other hospitals. 

    Everyone have a nice weekend.

     

  • Hiya Roz_dog

    Really sorry to hear they found some bad cells in your neck nodes - a bit more worry I know, but as you rightly say this is 'not major'. Hopefully the neck dissection will do the trick, if not, then you join the ranks of many folk on this forum who have had RT.  It ain't very nice but you will get through it and it will be well worth having it done.  One day at a time.... You have exactly the right attitude and will soon be looking back on all this as a bad memory.  Best wishes, Irene x

  • Roz Sorry to hear that, It's not something i had to have ... i just had the chemo and tomotherapy ... and im waiting for the results of my first scan post treatment. Wishing you all the the best ...when do you go in? Vatch
  • Thanks Irene for your message:)

    Hi Vatch, I go in a week and a half time, quite quick, thanks for your wishes. Good luck with your results.

  • Hi all, Sorry I've not posted in a while but life has stepped up a gear since being back at work. I've been slowly increasing my hours, a little way to go yet before I'm back to full hours, thankfully I have very supportive employers. Roz Dog, I'm sorry to hear your news, not what you wanted but at least it's been picked up and being dealt with. I had a neck dissection, it was easy peasy! So hopefully will be for you too. You must have had it by now? How are you doing? When will you know more? I hope the tongue is continuing to get better too. Vatch, you are a real trooper for getting back to work so soon, I hope it's going well. I'm tired out too afterwards, similar to how I felt soon after treatment ended, fatigue is a funny thing. You are so very right that people don't understand the gravity of what's happened, but I've learnt to let it go over my head now. Is your peg out yet? How are you getting on with food? Do you think you'll be able to enjoy Christmas lunch? Jo, lovely to hear from you and I hope you are getting along well since your last op - I must update myself with your thread as I haven't been on here for a little while. The tips on how to navigate we're very useful - thanks! My news...I had an MRI scan last week. I have some pain in my tongue which had lasted for a good few weeks so I mentioned it at my recent checkup and they booked me in for a scan. I'm surprised they went straight in for a scan but it is a bit of a relief too. I'm waiting on the results now, I'm not too worried though. I think I've learnt to live with these worries that crop up, this is the fourth worrying time this year what with other biopsies etc. I went out for lunch with some people from work last week. I played it safe and had sausage and mash with plenty of gravy and lots of water. I'm quite proud of myself as eating is a chore now and finding something I can manage is difficult sometimes. I also didn't know these people very well so I was nervous about eating in front of them (sometimes swallowing is difficult and food gets stuck in my mouth where my tongue can not manoeuvre it very well!) but I managed it and I was pleased! Now to find some tasty snacks for Christmas time! Speak soon, Nicola xx
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  • Hi all, Sorry I've not posted in a while but life has stepped up a gear since being back at work. I've been slowly increasing my hours, a little way to go yet before I'm back to full hours, thankfully I have very supportive employers. Roz Dog, I'm sorry to hear your news, not what you wanted but at least it's been picked up and being dealt with. I had a neck dissection, it was easy peasy! So hopefully will be for you too. You must have had it by now? How are you doing? When will you know more? I hope the tongue is continuing to get better too. Vatch, you are a real trooper for getting back to work so soon, I hope it's going well. I'm tired out too afterwards, similar to how I felt soon after treatment ended, fatigue is a funny thing. You are so very right that people don't understand the gravity of what's happened, but I've learnt to let it go over my head now. Is your peg out yet? How are you getting on with food? Do you think you'll be able to enjoy Christmas lunch? Jo, lovely to hear from you and I hope you are getting along well since your last op - I must update myself with your thread as I haven't been on here for a little while. The tips on how to navigate we're very useful - thanks! My news...I had an MRI scan last week. I have some pain in my tongue which had lasted for a good few weeks so I mentioned it at my recent checkup and they booked me in for a scan. I'm surprised they went straight in for a scan but it is a bit of a relief too. I'm waiting on the results now, I'm not too worried though. I think I've learnt to live with these worries that crop up, this is the fourth worrying time this year what with other biopsies etc. I went out for lunch with some people from work last week. I played it safe and had sausage and mash with plenty of gravy and lots of water. I'm quite proud of myself as eating is a chore now and finding something I can manage is difficult sometimes. I also didn't know these people very well so I was nervous about eating in front of them (sometimes swallowing is difficult and food gets stuck in my mouth where my tongue can not manoeuvre it very well!) but I managed it and I was pleased! Now to find some tasty snacks for Christmas time! Speak soon, Nicola xx
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  • Hi Nicola, lovely to see your post, but fully understand why you've not been on the forum for a while - that pesky work gets in the way! ;) Great to read that you managed a lunch date with your work colleagues. (Can empathise as I find eating out a bit stressful with a stoma! Never know if he's going to behave, haha!) I bet your little girl will be getting excited about Christmas. I seem to remember a few of us having a less than ideal Christmas last year for various reasons! To save you trawling the forum for my latest results, I had some great news last week. The mass the doctor removed from my abdomen was benign (neuroma) It felt like Christmas had come early and I could have kissed the surgeon! :) I'm now waiting for the lung team to be in touch to discuss the next surgery, but until then, I'm enjoying this medical free period especially as the surgeon told me to enjoy a tipple over Christmas. Hopefully, we'll chat again before too long, but meanwhile, take care, Nicola and don't get over doing things! Hugs to you, Jo xx
  • Oh wow Jo that is great news! My heart did a little flutter in my chest as I read your reply, what a huge relief! What good news just before christmas and yes we did have a bit of a miserable one last year, I hope you'll enjoy it more this year especially after some good news. Even though you know you have more surgery to come at least you have a bit of a break from it all now and at the perfect time of year. I must admit, I was getting a little anxious about Christmas this year, as it brings back a lot of bad memories and I've been a little emotional. Last Christmas was written off what with being so ill and I couldn't eat or drink a thing, I was solely relying on my PEG. I even had to put the Christmas tree in a different corner of the lounge this year to avoid reminders! Daft I know but it helps! Thank you for sharing your brilliant news, take care and hopefully we can "chat" again soon xx
  • hi there all ... has anyone heard fro Simon lately .... have you guzzle? I hope you are all doing well and a Merry Christmas to you all
  • Hi Vatch, no not heard from Simon since the new version of the website. I wandered if he also was experiencing problems with logging on? Hopefully all is ok with him and he will be in touch soon x
  • Delighted to get some glad tidings - your news is fantastic Jo!  Hope you have a wonderful Christmas and enjoy your little tipple.  

    Last week I had the most enjoyable meal out ever since being ill.  It's still all a bit 'hit or miss' and I wasn't looking forward to it much, but we went to a wonderful new local French restaurant with a great reputation and I made all the right choices.  Taste buds are definitely still gradually improving and I got the quantity and consistency right on THREE courses with a glass of milk to help the main (fish) course down.

    Simon, hope the dratted technology lets you catch up with us soon, would be great to hear from you.   Lots of love and best wishes to everyone, Irene x

  • Hi Irene, good to see your post! So glad you had an enjoyable meal and that your taste buds are improving. I remember you saying a while back in a post, how we all deserved a great Christmas this year! Cheers to that, lovely lady! Take care, love and hugs, Jo xx
  • Hi all, went up shard yesterday and had a curry in brick lane. Brekky in borough market, Harrods then home to Liverpool. Merry Xmas to you all. Let me know if Simon checks in!
  • Hi Guys, 
     
    I hope you are all well. 
     
    I just got out of hospital for my neck dissection after two weeks. Not that long but more than I expected. 
     
    The original neck dissection operation was a success but I developed a chyle leak once the surgery was complete. I woke up in intensive care a day later and that worried me. But a doctor came around and said this leak was not life threatening and the next day I was moved to a normal ward. 
     
    The hospital was really quick in arranging another operation as they had to go in a block this leak, I was filling about four or five drains a day with this white/yellow stuff, in they went through the ribs rather than through the neck again as they said this was best and used keyhole surgery which only took an hour or so to block a duct. The leak then stopped. I have had hardly any pain at all, only pain was from the lung/chest drain relating to the keyhole surgery, and that was only when I was walking about. Consider myself very lucky everything was fixed, people really went out of their way to make sure things happened, wish I could thank them all. 
     
    I spend the rest of the time recovering although once I started eating I was much better and once my drains was out they said I could go. 
     
    So pleased to be out for Christmas. All the doctors and nurses were very professional and nice and I could not fault them one bit. 
     
    I am able to eat as before my jaw just feels like it is swelling after eating for a while then I give it a break. 
     
    Results due in a few weeks for my dissection but I will forget about that over Xmas and try and eat a bit of Xmas dinner. 
     
    Happy Christmas to you all.

    Good luck with your results Nicola

  • Hi Roz Dog, it sounds like you've really been through the mill since your op, but delighted to hear you are home in time for Christmas and looking forward to a bit of Christmas dinner.  Hope you manage to have a lovely day with your family and forget about hospitals and test results for a bit.  Look forward to hearing how things are going in the New Year and wishing you a happy and healthy 2015.  Best wishes, Irene x