Tongue Cancer - Diagnosed two days ago

Hi, I am a 32 year old single mum to my two year old daughter and I found out two days ago that I have tongue cancer.  I'm waiting for an appointment for an MRI scan and a CT scan which should hopefully be within the next few days and this can find out if the cancer has spread.  I then have to have an appointment to discuss a treatment plan but I have already been told that this will involve cutting out the lump in my tongue and a neck dissection to remove Lymph nodes.

It's all such a lot to take in and I'm trying to come to terms with the fact that in a few weeks time my life will never be the same again.  I have read some horrific stories about what I have to come and I am willing to face any of it so long as I stay alive for the sake of my daughter.  I have only told my parents and one friend so far, no piont telling everyone until I have more facts after the scans but I'm concerned at how far the cancer could have spread.  I have had this painful lump on my tongue for six months but the doctors kept giving me prescripotions for other things which has delayed diagnisis.  I have also had pain in my throat and more recently I've noticed ear ache and jaw ache and neck pain.  I'm trying to stay positive until I know more information from the scans but I know I will crumble if it has spread beyond repair.

From reading stories from others on here and other websites, I'm a little confused that I haven't yet been told what stage the cancer is at.  Isn't that something that could be identified from my biopsy?  How could the doctor be so sure that I will need a neck dissection before knowing what stage it's at?

None of this has come of much of a surprise.  I googled my symptoms of a persistent ulcer back in April, before I first went to the doctor and was alarmed to see the word "cancer" everywhere I looked.  I had all the symptoms but was just hoping I was wrong.  The first two doctors I saw about this reassured me that it was nothing more sinister than an ulcer, which put my mind at rest a little, how wrong were they?!  I am just glad that I stayed persistent and kept going back to the doctor about it.  I don't think they treated it as an urgency as I don't fit in with the usual risk factors, I've never smoked, I hardly drink and I'm not in the right age bracket.  I'm now feeling annoyed at the waiting game.  I want to know when the scan will be.

It helps to come on here and read other threads but I still don't think it has fully sunk in yet but when it does, positivity for the sake of my little girl will just have to get me through.  I would love to keep hearing stories from others or any advice would be greatly received.

Nicola xx

  • Oh sorry cookie was good! Have you tried trifle. Yum!

  • Hi Gary, your convalescing sounds great! I remember feeling at my worst up to ten days after treatment ended, my very bad days being when I over did it. I finished on Friday 20th December, managed to struggle up to Christmas Day, but by the end of it I was feeling very ill but by New Year's Eve there was a massive improvement. Get lots of rest and sleep when you have to. I have never slept so much as I did then! Hope the last few days go ok for you this week. Euros purchased and at the ready!

    Speak soon, Nicola.

  • Hi Nicola,

    Good luck for your tongue check up this week. We both know it'll be clear and I'm sure that you're going to make your feelings known about your PEG tube. It you have it in much longer we'll have to get it a birthday present!

    You reminded me of Christmas - I remember that my target was to eat a full Christmas dinner with all the trimmings - didn't manage it unfortunately but I did manage to struggle through about half of it. By way of a contrast, I had two small fried beef burgers last night - I checked to see that there wasn't any black pepper in them and, surprise surprise, they went down really well. The trick for me was to ensure that they are not done too crispy and to cover them in cheese and onion sauce. It turned out to be the best meal I can remember for a long while. I'm also majoring on those magic noodles thingys at the moment - they slip down really nicely too because they're soft and retain a lot of moisture. They are also easy to do in the microwave which is important for me because I'm useless with the cooker!

    Hope all goes well this week. I'm keeping an eye on the Vatch thread - he seems to be almost exactly a year behind you and I.

    Good luck with the PEG.

    SimonXX

  • Nicola, the euro rate looks good. More of a reason to indulge yourself! IM not going to be complacent. I know things can get worse for the first couple of weeks. Feeling a bit sleepy now! Just have to keep eating! Regards, G

    Simon, burger sounds great!

  • Well here comes the worry all over again.

    I had my monthly check up yesterday at the dental hospital (although I didn't receive an appointment for last month). My last check up was 8 weeks ago with my consultant and I mentioned a sore white patch on my tongue but he checked it and said it was nothing to worry about. The sore patch is still there and probably worse so I mentioned it again yesterday - a different person doing my check up, someone I hadn't seen before. They have suggested a biopsy to be on the safe side which will be on 18th June. They offered me an appointment on Monday of next week but as we go to Paris next Wednesday and having had a tongue biopsy before so I know what to expect, I didn't want to go away on holiday with a throbbing tongue and be unable to eat. So it's two weeks until the biopsy and then another wait for the results. I hate all this worry, this will be the second biopsy since treatment finished as I had one on a lump in my neck recently. I just want to get on with my life and put all this nasty stuff behind me but its impossible with this to worry about now.

    The max fax dentist that did my check up yesterday did say that it could be friction from where my still very swollen tongue is rubbing on my teeth. He has also prescribed some anti fungal stuff to see if that could clear up the white patch. I did initially think that it could be friction but that's what my consultant thought was causing the original ulcer last year which turned out to be cancerous. This sore patch is on the same side of the original ulcer and runs along the tongue graft where it joins my original tongue. I know they have to investigate anything like this but it all fills me with fear again.

    Simon, so glad to hear about the beef burgers, I've really fancied a burger a few times but have resisted as I know it's not worth it but hopefully soon I can manage one!

    Nicola xx

  • Nicola, nothing much I say will stop you worrying. We are all hyper sensitive to anything but this is along the surgery divide. It is much more likely to be something innocent surely. I know its hard but try to enjoy your trip which you really deserve. I will be exactly the same. If they were overly worried wouldn't they insist on a biopsy now? Ive got everythin crossed for you. IM sure you will be fine and make Paris then Leeds!

    Thinking of You, Gary

  • Nicola

    You are a lot further down the line that myself, but i wish you all the best

    I know what you mean about having the biopsies ... having just had multiply biopsies of the back of my tongue, larynx and tonsil area on Moday ... and although its now Wednesday, im sore , but it manageable, enough to be a grumpy old *** though .... but manageable as i said

    I hope you have agood trip and come back refreshed

    Vatch

  • Hi Gary and Gary,

    Thanks both for your supportive replies. I must be mad to turn down the biopsy for next week but my trip to Paris is something that has been planned for a while as it was something to look forward to when all of the bad stuff was happening and I didn't get to spend as much time with my little girl. So euro disney is my way of spoiling her a bit and having some fun with her as we both went through the rough times together, even though she's too young to understand. So I didn't want it spoiled it any way, even tough my mind will now be worrying about the next biopsy.

    I was advised yesterday to go to my regular dentist and have two teeth 'shaved' to see if that could help the friction so I made an appointment for today but it turned out to be a waste of time. My dentist said he could not do it as it would leave my tooth exposed and sensitive. Really could have done without that wasted trip today what with feeling fatigued and stressed. Oh well.

    Vatch, keep us posted with your biopsies and results. We are all here to give advice and support. I hope you saw my previous reply to you about treatment etc. but ask anything at all.

    Guzzle, almost there now and you still sound so chirpy!

    Speak soon,

    Nicola xx

  • Hi Nicola

    I do not think anyone will blame you for delaying the biopsy.  I know from your previous posts that the Paris trip has been planned for some time.

    Go away and have fun with your daughter.  There will be enough time to worry when you get back and I doubt that a week or two will really make that much difference.

    Have a great time.

    Gill

  • Hi Nicola,

    I'm really sorry to hear about your mouth. What you describe is sounds very similar to something I experienced some weeks ago. I had a white lump (sort of a creamy colour really, with some pink thrown in) on the rear underside of my tongue - it wasn't raised at all so a patch may have been a better description. I kept an eye on it for a few weeks and it didn't go away. I became quite concerned and the oncologist had a look and said that he thought it was a type of ulcer and that it was being aggravated by tooth friction. Anyway, long story short, it did disappear on its own accord after a month or so. I've since had another similar episode. Apparently these things are common post radiation. Do not worry (hard, I know) and enjoy your trip - you deserve it.

    We're all looking forward to hearing about your trip!

    Simon XX