Tongue Cancer - Diagnosed two days ago

Hi, I am a 32 year old single mum to my two year old daughter and I found out two days ago that I have tongue cancer.  I'm waiting for an appointment for an MRI scan and a CT scan which should hopefully be within the next few days and this can find out if the cancer has spread.  I then have to have an appointment to discuss a treatment plan but I have already been told that this will involve cutting out the lump in my tongue and a neck dissection to remove Lymph nodes.

It's all such a lot to take in and I'm trying to come to terms with the fact that in a few weeks time my life will never be the same again.  I have read some horrific stories about what I have to come and I am willing to face any of it so long as I stay alive for the sake of my daughter.  I have only told my parents and one friend so far, no piont telling everyone until I have more facts after the scans but I'm concerned at how far the cancer could have spread.  I have had this painful lump on my tongue for six months but the doctors kept giving me prescripotions for other things which has delayed diagnisis.  I have also had pain in my throat and more recently I've noticed ear ache and jaw ache and neck pain.  I'm trying to stay positive until I know more information from the scans but I know I will crumble if it has spread beyond repair.

From reading stories from others on here and other websites, I'm a little confused that I haven't yet been told what stage the cancer is at.  Isn't that something that could be identified from my biopsy?  How could the doctor be so sure that I will need a neck dissection before knowing what stage it's at?

None of this has come of much of a surprise.  I googled my symptoms of a persistent ulcer back in April, before I first went to the doctor and was alarmed to see the word "cancer" everywhere I looked.  I had all the symptoms but was just hoping I was wrong.  The first two doctors I saw about this reassured me that it was nothing more sinister than an ulcer, which put my mind at rest a little, how wrong were they?!  I am just glad that I stayed persistent and kept going back to the doctor about it.  I don't think they treated it as an urgency as I don't fit in with the usual risk factors, I've never smoked, I hardly drink and I'm not in the right age bracket.  I'm now feeling annoyed at the waiting game.  I want to know when the scan will be.

It helps to come on here and read other threads but I still don't think it has fully sunk in yet but when it does, positivity for the sake of my little girl will just have to get me through.  I would love to keep hearing stories from others or any advice would be greatly received.

Nicola xx

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  • Hi Colin, Debbie, Meerkat, Andrea, Annabel,

    I'm finally out of hospital after ten days. My operation went well and my recovery has been quick. Apparently I'm "superhuman" accordingly my doctors as I have recovered a bit too quickly!!  Thy can't believe it!

    The operation was 8 and a half hours and as planned, 50% of my tongue was removed and replaced using tissues/muscle and an artery from my left arm and a skin graft from my tummy. They also removed my lymph nodes on one side of my neck and removed two wisdom teeth! I was under anaesthetic at 10am on the Thursday morning then in an induced coma in intensive care until the saturday morning. I was then moved to the ward on the Sunday afternoon,

    My tongue looks very neat. It's still very swollen on the one side, but the swelling has reduced a lot already. It's odd because part of my tongue is white as in the colour of my arm skin but the old part of the tongue is the usual pinky/red colour! The switches are dissolvable and should come out over the next couple of months. I was told to expect to not be able to talk as soon as I was awake but I was chatting away! My speech was fairly clear too so that pleased me, I didn't even need to use the whiteboard I had bought to communicate! My tummy wound has been fine until now - the dressing was removed yesterday before I left the hospital and it's become itchy and I'm aware of it all of the time whereas before I was not. My neck wound has been fine, very neat and tidy but I can not turn my head too much or too quickly and it has been tighter over the last 24 hours, so I'm going to ask the nurse to look at them today when I'm back at the hospital for an appointment to have the stitches removed from my arm. My arm is by far the worst wound, there is a large area on the inside of my wrist which will be scarred and then a long line up towards the inside if my elbow where the artery was. Luckily I'm not vain and I'm not worried about scars! This wound has been painful at times and it's still heavily dressed with a splint so I can't move it or use my left arm at the moment. I think the removal of the tooth wisdom teeth was probably the most painful part though! This caused a lot of swelling and bruising, I look as though I have been beaten up!

    I've never had an operation before so I was very surprised at how incapacitated I was following the operation. I was not allowed out of bed or to sit up at all whilst in intensive care but the day after I got to the ward I was encouraged to move around but I couldn't do much at all. I needed help to sit up, stand, use the loo. My sight was a bit blurred and I couldn't even hold a book or text on my phone. I was very dizzy on my feet for a few days and I didn't expect that at all so that all threw me a little but by 6 or 7 days post op I became very independent. I had a problem with phlegm and saliva for a coupe of days in which I seemed t be producing lots if it but that has settled down now and 6 days following the operation I was allowed to try very small sips of water then on day 7 I was able to try soup. So that's my diet at the moment - soup, ice cream, custard, yoghurt and the nutrition drinks from the hospital. 4 days on and it's already getting tedious!

    Overall, it's been ok. My stay in hospital was as comfortable as it could be and I salute all of the doctors and nurses who have looked after me, they've have done a fantastic job and I couldn't have asked for more. I've been sent home with tonnes of medications and instructions but I have felt totally at ease the whole time as I well well informed about everything.

    It's so nice to be home and not be poked and prodded every couple of hours for blood pressure checks, temperature etc! I've missed my little girl terribly and everything all still seems a bit surreal, I still can't quite believe what I've gone through and that it happened to me. I now have to wait a week to find out if I will be needing radiotherapy but I'm optimistic that I won't. My surgeon is confident that all of the cancer was removed from my tongue during the operation but they can never be too sure about lymph nodes. It's been an experience but as always, you people were on my ind the whole time. I'm anticipated a long recovery time at home (approx 4 months) which I will certainly make the most of and do as I'm told and rest.

    Speak soon,

    Nicola

  • Nicola,

    I have been wondering how you are doing when I found your post. It is wonderful that you have and are doing so well. I am delighted to hear you are "superhuman", and home already.

    Well done for facing what you had to go through, and I am sure your positive attitude helped overall.

    Look forward to chatting over the next few weeks of your recovery.

    best wishes

    Annabel.

  • Hi Nicola,

    Regarding your sleeping, I remember that for a few weeks after treatment my sleeping was very hit and miss. I would wake up after only an hour or so and then have to get up and read/watch TV for a while. That passed after a few weeks and I now sleep for 8 or 9 hours on most nights - I have the normal interruptions where I have get get up and shower following nightsweats on some nights, or where I have to take a few sips of water, but generally I get back off to sleep okay. Prior to treatment I was a 5 or 6 hour per night person - I don't know if I'll manage to return to that.

    I think that the dry mouth has improved very slightly - or it may be that I'm just getting used to it. Obviously I carry water with me whenever I go out and I guess that this is just a lifestyle adjustment that needs to be made.

    My ulcers are continuing in anger and they are very painful. They are slightly improved today though. The oncologist was a bit concerned when I told him I was taking Oramorph for the pain - one of the ulcers is that size of a one pence piece and the pain is incredible (it rubs on one of my back teeth) - if he thinks I'm taking Asprin for that then he's seriously wrong!

    I am managing some more adventurous food. I can now take food that is hotter than lukewarm (although nowhere near piping hot yet). Last night I had cheese and onion pasty, mash and sprouts covered in cheese sauce and I managed that without too much trouble. I also have half a tin of microwaved rice pudding with sultanas for dessert. I know how to live.

    My taste is pretty good although I can't take anything with black pepper in or anything that is at all spicy. Like Debbie I used to like curry but I can't even take curried baked beans at the moment.  My taste buds were pretty non-functional immediately after treatment so I think that you can expect yours to recover over the next few days/weeks.

    My neck is still a bit stiff and weak although this is improving albeit slowly. I still have an intermittent sore throat but again this is slowly improving.

    It's incredible to think that I am now five mouths out of treatment and I am still having these issues. The good news is obviously that I am still clear of the tongue cancer so I continuously remind myself that this is all a price worth paying.

    The lymph nodes in my groin are still swollen and this, along with my nightsweats, fatigue and itchy skin are somewhat worrying. My wife and I are trying to take the optimistic view that I couldn't possibly be so unlucky as to have one cancer cured only to get another! It is a worry though. The GP examined my nodes in the week and agreed that they are swollen and he sent me for a chest X-ray to rule out TB (no way is it TB!).

    Irene - It is absolutely brilliant that you have got to the end of your treatment - well done you! Like you, my skin went very red but it did not break down - hopefully yours won't also. I also had low white and red cell counts and these did resolve in time (although my red count is still low but improving slowly). The oncologist said that blood counts can take up to a year to stabilise post treatment. Be sure to avoid people with colds or infections - you're on the home straight now and some other infection is the last thing that you need.

    I have my latest check-up with the oncologist on Thursday - although it's technically an ENT clinic he will be hearing all about my groin nodes! As I said to Nicola, I am trying not to worry too much but it is playing on my mind - I'm trying not to constantly check my nodes (certainly not whilst walking around Waitrose anyway). Apparently, the only real way to check that a swollen node is due to infection rather than cancer is for one to be removed and then biopsied - that is what I will be looking for on Thursday.

    I do so envy Debbie being back on the curry - what I wouldn't give to be able to sit down with a vindaloo and a pint of lager - maybe one day.

    Anyway, sorry for all my woes. We are all in a better place than we were a while ago and I guess we need to keep that in mind.

    Best wishes and good luck to you all - I'm off for another slug of Difflam.

    Simon xx

  • Hello Friends


    Simon, you crack me up "off for another slug of Difflam" that sums it up in a nutshell though doesn't it?! 


    Sleeping patterns - yes that all sounds familiar to me too, wakening up after very short spells, however I did have a good night on Monday so feel I have caught up a bit.  Sorry to hear those ulcers are still giving you so much grief, they are such painful little blighters aren't they - aspirin - what?  So the long, slow journey back to eating is also progressing but all this five months after the end of treatment, so slow is certainly the operative word.  I must be PATIENT! Nicola, you are making good progress too, it must feel like it's taking an eternity, but hang on in there you are doing a great job and you will get there!


    Yes it's great not to have to face the daily trek to hospital any more, however I did end up back there yesterday. Just an administrative thing which I'm sure could easily have been avoided and saved us an extra journey - frustrating!

    I was issued with a leaflet by my Radiotherapy Dept when I completed my treatment on Friday. 

    It advises you what to do  when skin on neck 'breaks down' i.e. go to your GP who will prescribe Hydragel

    or ask Practice Nurse to apply a Hydragel dressing.  So it this happened on Sunday (of course), phoned GP surgery

    first thing Monday and eventually got through around 9.30 due to usual Monday morning rush to be given appointment
    for 3.40. GP and nurse have little or no knowledge re product which has an online drop down menu as long as your arm
    and a multitude of dressing sizes and formats. Doc got the ruler out and plumped for the one that looked nearest the size,
    printed my prescription and of course (I knew it!) the chemist didn't have it and couldn't get it till this afternoon.  
    Overnight my neck got worse so I rang my specialist nurse (should have done so yesterday but was only following discharge leaflet!).   
    By 11.00 a.m. we'd been to Ninewells and back, been shown how to clean off dead skin and apply dressings and sent home with supply 
    of swabs and patches - (Mepilex Lite) completely different to the Hydragel the leaflet suggested but def the right ones for the job, so 
    much more comfy now!  Why couldn't they have given me this info on Friday I wonder?  
    When I asked they said they were in the process of updating all the literature!

    Today my throat is really sore again and producing lots more mucus.  Struggling to get down sips of water.  I'd been feeling quite good over the weekend

    and planning to visit my parents today (looking as good as my sister told me I was on Sunday) but today I might have difficulty passing that off!

    Having been told side effects are likely to peak 7-10 days from end of treatment, I guess this is only to be expected.

    Lots of friends are sending me ideas to keep myself amused during the next phase, knitting patterns and wool (charity baby knits), tapestry kit, film recommendations and books etc.  Something weird going on with my skin in general though.  I was looking forward to a proper manicure with acrylics from my daughter today, but think I need to shelve that.  Every single finger feels like it's about to break out into hacks despite lashing on handcream and Snowfire for the past few days - just excessively dry which I suppose is all wrapped up in other issues.

    Off for a slug of water!

    Apologies re formatting issues again!

    Irene xx

  • Hi Simon & Irene,

    I'm feeling a little down this week. My dietician prescribed some calogen drinks which are calorie boosters to help me gain some weight. They are disgusting. I'm not even drinking them, I'm putting them down my tube but they look disgusting and are making me feel very sick. Although I haven't yet been sick I have had diarrhea since Sunday (sorry if too much info!) and I only started them on Saturday. They look like gloss paint and have an oily texture so imagine mixing oil with milkshakes, not a good combination in the stomach! I'm still on 5 of the Nhs Fortisip milkshakes a day although I haven't managed all 5 over the last couple of days and I also haven't been able to manage my daily porridge and yoghurt for the last two days due to feeling awful. It's got to be down to these new calogen drinks so I called my dietician this morning to ask her advice but she's not in the office until tomorrow. I've decided to take a break from them until I speak to her as the endless trips to the loo are not helping me to gain weight and I'm concerned they will have the opposite effect. I'm supposed to have 100mls, three times a day but that's an awful lot on top on top of the milkshakes, when my stomach isn't used to it.

    I'm also worrying about my trip to Euro Disney that I booked a few weeks ago. We're not going until June and its for 5 days, I wanted to spoil my daughter a little as I haven't been the usual hands on mum these last few months because of being so poorly so I wanted to do something really nice and extravagant with her but now I'm worrying I've jumped the gun and it will be too much too soon. My friend took me out on Sunday and we went down to the seafront for a little walk and browsed the shops, stopped for a coffee, it was lovely as was one of the first times I've been out and about in a while but it's literally taken me two whole days to get over it. I've been exhausted. So now I'm wondering how on earth I will cope walking around a huge theme park for 5 days. I know it's a while off but this recovery is going much more slowly than I had hoped. I used to think I could return to work next month, but now we are into February and I know there is no hope of that happening so I aimed for April/May, but after these last couple of days of feeling very tired I don't even think that's realistic either. My GP gave me a new certificate last week for three months and I had hoped that would be the last one. Now I'm wondering if I should cancel the holiday in June.

    I'm concerned about my taste buds too. I always knew I would lose 50% of them due to the tongue op I had back in September, I'll never regain those obviously but I seem to only have about a quarter at the moment on the good side of my tongue. When I put food in my mouth I can taste it immediately but then after a couple of spoonfuls the taste disappears and the taste is very little. There is literally no taste towards the centre of my tongue and I worry that this is what I'm left with. If so, I can't see that I will ever enjoy food again or put weight on. I'm 5 stone 9 now so not much increase in the almost 7 weeks since treatment ended. I've had to buy some kids clothes as nothing fits me anymore and I just feel so weak all of the time. I feel I got through the surgery and treatment very well but living with the after effects are much harder than I thought. Maybe I need to give it more time but as no one can really say for sure how my taste buds will be on a permanent basis, it's really difficult to be patient. I'm getting increasingly fed up with being stuck at home, visitors seem to have dwindled now that the tough stuff is over and I hate having to be so dependent on everybody. Still, I have a hair appointment tomorrow so hopefully that will make me feel a bit better, it'll be the first time I've had my hair done since before my surgery last year.

    Sorry to moan! But I have been thinking a lot about you both over the last few days. Simon, I'm sorry to hear you are worrying about the swollen nodes, I would be worried too though. I noticed a little lump on my forehead the other day, I probably bumped it on something without realising (or more likely my daughter bopped me on the head with one of her toys as I'm used to that!) but I kept checking it in the mirror until it had gone away. You'd be right to push for them to be tested when you see your oncologist tomorrow, hopefully he will be supportive of this, but yes, very unlucky if it were something serious but also very unlikely. Still, of course you will worry, more than the average person, after enduring what we have. Give us an update tomorrow if you can. The food you are eating sounds delicious! I often compare my myself to your progress when I'm thinking about food so it's good to hear what you are managing to eat. As for the ulcers, it's quite amazing how our head and neck nurses, dieticians etc have probably worked with many tongue cancer patients in the past but still seem clueless (to me anyway) how difficult it is to get back to normality or deal with the pain etc. if you feel you need oral morph to manage your pain then you'll be the best judge of that. There is no way you can keep up a good diet to gain weight if the pain is too bad - why can't they see that?! I must say that my mouth seems to be almost back to normal, I've not had an ulcer for a little while (touch wood) and the fuzziness around my gums is improving, it's just the taste that is frustrating me now, along with the indescribable dryness.

    Irene - what a lot of efforts you had to go to about your neck! The last thing you need is trips here there and everywhere, how annoying for you! I remember those days after treatment very well and I certainly wasn't up to going out anywhere. I would agree that definitely postponing your nails etc is a good idea. I didn't get my nails done for many weeks afterwards in fear that I would jinx things and end up back in hospital! I also refused of have my PICC line out for a good couple of weeks after chemo ended incase I ended up back in hospital, as the line would need to go back in and the nails would have needed to come off! My skin on my neck did not break down fortunately, but it was very red raw and sore. I too was given some gel pads but now I only use aqueous cream. It seems to be more swollen these last few days though and the skin feels very tight so perhaps I could do with using something else on my neck now. My chin is also quite swollen right now and the one side of my face, I look a bit fat! Listen to your body though, sleep when you need to and get lots of rest. I have been amazed at how much it has all affected me. When we lie on the treatment table and they blast us with the radiotherapy, we can't feel it at the time so I think that's why I was so shocked at how much it has affected me over all. I remember being completely out of action for anything for a good 8 or 9 days, then it was a very slow improvement. Almost 7 weeks on and I still can only manage simple daily tasks, anything more and I'm wiped out. You sound in good spirits though.

    Anyway, keep up the good work both of you, I look forward to hearing from you soon.

    Nicola xx

  • Hi Debbie,

    It sounds as if you bounced aback fairly quickly with your eating and your taste buds, I hoped as lucky as you.

    I'm very disappointed to hear that you can't manage chip sandwiches, as that used to be a favourite of mine. Oh well. I guess I'll find something else instead. I think curry is a long way off for me as certain things leave a burning sensation in my throat. I hope that doesn't last forever though as I was a big fan of curry and white wine! I'm 7 weeks post treatment and feel recovery is going pretty slowly in terms of eating. I'm eating porridge and yogurts daily but had hoped to be a little further forward than this by now. It's ironic that I was always a fan of fairly dry food, for example, I loved a plain cheese sandwich, or crackers with cheese, chocolate and was not a fan of sauces with my food, but all that will have to change.

    I think I'm at the depressing stage where eating and drinking again all seems a long way off!

    Nicola

  • Hi Jo,

    How is the sleeping going? I'm forcing myself to go up to bed at a reasonable time and read for a bit but I often fall asleep with the light on! It's better than sleeping on the sofa though. My energy levels have been really low this week after a trip out at the weekend, it's surprising how little I can manage and it's difficult to explain the tiredness. I suddenly come over all strange and just have to sit down for a while. Trying to explain that to a two year told is a bit tricky! I'm being quite firm with myself though and leaving some of the housework until the following day if I've already done a few things.

    Hope you are keeping well and enjoying the soaps!

    Speak soon,

    Nicola xxx

  • Hi Nicola,

    Sorry to read that you're feeling down and still suffering from low energy levels. I know that a lot of it will be down to your diet / food intake, but I also think the weather makes us feel uninspired and has a bearing on our mood! I am ashamed to say I do very little exercise and I know that I should do more, but today, we went out for a trip to a little Derbyshire village, walked the length of the high street and then when the heavens opened, simply headed home!

    I remember feeling tired for many weeks after my first round of radio/chemotherapy, but as mine was pelvic radiation, I didn't have the added complication of my mouth being affected and therefore my food intake being hindered.

    The calogen drinks you described to Simon and Irene do sound awful and it's a pity they're upsetting your tummy! I hope your dietician can give you some helpful advice when she gets back to you.

    You mentioned in your post to Simon and Irene ("Hi fellow forum friends!") about a holiday to Euro Disney! That sounds exciting. I remember taking my kids there (seems a lifetime ago now! They're both in their 20's!!!)

    I can understand your anxiety about going and wondering if it will prove too much. But it's nearly 4 months away and I'm sure your recovery will have improved even more by then. Maybe see how you feel in a months time? During a 5 day stay, you'll be able to pace yourself and see most things you'll want your little girl to experience (and she'll get tired too, so a late start after a lie in or an afternoon nap, will probably be in order for you both)

    We stayed for that long and tended to do a few hours strolling round the park and then relaxed back at the hotel.  We couldn't go on a lot of the big rides as my son was too little! Thank goodness for the Mary Poppins merry-go-round!!

    Are any of your family going with you?

    Ah the soaps. Yes, I'm still watching them, but still find myself 'waking up' as the final credits are rolling! I'm going to take a leaf out of your book and go to bed when I feel tired! (And maybe I'll sleep in the spare bed so that my 'night owl' partner doesn't disturb me when he turns in past midnight! You're still doing great! (Bad grammar, but hey!)

    Hugs to you and your little girl, Jo xxx

  • Hi Nicola,

    I really sorry to hear that you have been feeling a little down. I know that I don't have to tell you that to feel that way at this stage is only natural. You won't feel that way all the time and I can say from experience that your low feelings will slowly decrease over the coming weeks as you gradually adjust to how things are (and as your body continues to slowly recover from all that has been thrown at it).

    I can fully understand your feelings in relation to eating and trying to maintain a healthy weight. It is difficult to find things that work for you and the stuff that they provide I did find pretty horrible - I gave up trying to take them orally and just relied on the PEG tube, not only because of a sore throat but because of the taste and texture of the milk shakes. The dietician tried her best but in the main I ended up doing my own thing. At one point I was on a diet of creamy mashed potato and gravy followed by Angel Delight - again, it was about finding what worked for me and sticking with it. I tried not to get too hung up on calorie counting (although this is important in order to monitor progress) I found that as long as I was getting in a reasonable amount of food my weight didn't decrease by too much. Yes I have lost weight but I am not drastically underweight for my height. I think it's important not to put too much unnecessary pressure on yourself. I think that your remaining taste buds will slowly recover over the coming days and weeks. The dryness will be a longer term issue but I am finding that this can be managed to the point that it is not a major problem. I occasionally forget to take a bottle of water out with me but as long as I remember to do those little things then life if not too bad with the dryness. The main issue with the dryness, of course, is that it dictates what one can and can't eat. How I long for a bag of chips!

    I am planning to return to work by the end of Feb. I'm currently doing a small amount of work from home but I do miss the human interation (I don't miss the commuting into London though).

    I have been thinking about your planned trip - I really think you should stick with the plan. I say this because you have generally been making better progress than me and I am now 5 months out from the end of my treatment. I feel that if I wanted to I could undertake such a trip. You are much younger and fitter than me and I feel that you can expect to be in a better state than I am now by the time that June gets here. It will also give you something pleasurable to look forward to and aim for. It is a slight gamble but I really think that the odds are stacked in your favour. In short, go for it girl!

    Latest eating tip - cheese and onion pasty microwaved for 50 seconds (so that it goes all soggy) and then coated with a thin layer of mayo. Disgusting? Yes, but it goes down easily and tastes okay.

    My ulcers are still there but at not now quite as painful as they were and so I'm hopeful that I will see the back of these soon.

    The visit to the oncologist yesterday went well. He did take the swollen nodes in my groin, nightsweats and itching seriously and he is referring me to the surgical team for a node biopsy. At least this should give me a definitive answer and hopefully some peace of mind. Oh, and my throat and tongue are still clear of cancer!

    Irene - Are things now improving for you? Are you enjoying the freedom that not having to travel for your daily zap gives you? I remember that the first few weeks after treatment were fairly grim and progress did come, albeit slowly. The mucus was probably the worst side effect but it did reduce fairly quickly for me, hopefully the same will happen for you.

    Debbie - We are all hoping to get on the curry again - you have really set the standard for us to aim for!

    I do miss booze! How I long for a beer or scotch and coke. I have had the odd Jack Daniels and flat Coke but my tongue is still slightly too sore to really enjoy the taste. My alcohol intake has been replaced with Difflam - how sad.

    Let's all look forward to a bright, happy and healthy future - and also we can look forward to wishing Nicola bon voyage when she sets off for Euro Disney.

    Love and best wishes to you all.

    Simon XX 

  • Hi Simon & Jo,

    I saw my Dietician, Speech Therapist and Head & Neck nurse today and all are pleased with my progress again. They have suggested that I decrease from 5 of the Fortisip milkshakes each day to just 4 a day and replace the 5th one with some soup or scrambled egg. They have also suggested mixing some cream or melted cheese within it for the added calories so I'm going to try that tomorrow and see how I go. They have also suggested drinking one of the milkshakes each day in order to build up my calorie intake via my mouth rather than using my PEG all of the time. This will enable a quicker removal of the PEG so I'm all for that, as awful as the milkshakes taste! I have yet another "over granulation" of skin around my PEG, one seems to clear up and another appears, literally overnight so I think I will suffer with this problem until it's removed. Unlucky me! I was weighed again today at the hospital and I have gained 1.5lbs in three weeks so I'm now 5 stone 11. Not far off of 6 stone, I'm hoping to reach there by the end of next month! Simon, I think you are right to concentrate on eating what works best rather than concentrating on the weight gain. I'm going to do the same going forwards. I also forget to take a bottle of water out with me sometimes but it's something we'll both grow used to doing I'm sure. It's only a small adjustment to make considering all that's happened.

    It occurred to me today that I always thought my PEG could come out around March as that would be three months post treatment but as March is only a few weeks away, there's no chance of that happening. It's amazing how quickly it has all happened and how much I have relied on the tube for feeding. It seems strange to imagine not using it anymore. My MRI scan is all set for next week. It's come around a little sooner than I first thought but I won't get the results until mid March when I next see my Oncologist. Fingers crossed for that! I'm feeling better this week and not so down. Probably the weather does have a little to do with my mood being down recently as suggested by Jo. I have been trying to get out and about a little more and doing some more normal things so maybe this has helped, even though I am absolutely shattered afterwards! Sounds the same as you were describing Jo! My nurse seems to think my trip to Euro Disney will do me lots of good and that I'll be ready by then, so I'm pleased about that and yes Jo, we have a friend coming too so I'll have some help with my toddler should it all get too much!

    Simon, I'm glad to hear you are planning on returning to work. Good luck with that. I can't wait to get back, will you be easing your way back in by doing half days at first? I expect it will be very tiring. Any further news on having a biopsy of your nodes? Your new diet of soggy pasties and mayo does sound pretty bad but if you can eat it then well done to you! You'll get some funny looks when you're back at work and eating these strange combinations during your lunch hour!

    Jo - I hope all is well with you, keep us posted with any updates on your liver the the op. I've been thinking of you.

    I hope Irene is ok. If she is anything like I was, she will be sleeping constantly at the moment with no strength to do anything! We're thinking of you Irene!

    Thanks for your words of encouragement, it helps me a lot to speak to people that understand this rocky road.

    Speak soon,

    Nicola xx

  • Hi Nicola,

    Good to hear that you are still making progress. I know that things can seem to move very slowly and I think it's usually best to compare ourselves with how we were a few weeks ago (as opposed to just a few days ago). I've found that the journey can be something of a 'wavy line'. By that I mean that we will not necessarily feel better every single day - in fact some days we will feel worse that the day before. The important thing to focus on is the overall trend which is one of improvement and a slow return to better health. Yes there are ups and downs but overall there are more of the former and less of the latter.

    Well done for putting on 1.5 pounds. I know how hard it can be. I'm stuck at 10.5lbs (which seems massive compared to you) but I've taken the view that this is okay as long as I don't start to lose weight. I've still got about 170 pots of NHS milkshake in the garage but I can't face them. I did ask if I could send them back as I no longer need them and I was told to throw them away which seems such a waste to me, especially in the current financial climate. My current food-fad is cheese and onion omelette, or mashed potato with fish in breadcrumbs with cheese sauce to soften things up. The mash needs to be very creamy in order to counter the dry mouth. 

    The lymph nodes in my groin are still swollen - they have not gotten any larger but nor are they reducing. I'm still awaiting news of the biopsy and I will chase them if I haven't heard anything by the end of this week. I am seeing the haematologist on Wednesday so I'll discuss this with her as well (my initial referral to her was because of the swollen nodes so maybe she will chase this for me). Up until a year ago I was a really healthy and fit individual who rarely, if ever, bothered the NHS - now I seem to spend most of my time awaiting an appointment or trekking to the hospital for a blood test or scan. My mouth is still a bit sore and my ulcers have good days and bad days.

    Good luck with the MRI scan next week, Nicola. I remember that I had a long time between the scan date and the consulatation. At the scan the radiologist said that the results were available within 7 days or so. I contacted the nurse and asked if my date could be brought forward by a week and this was done. It might be worth you being cheeky and trying the same - nothing ventured........

    I hope that Irene is okay - I haven't seen a post from her for some time. Are you out there Irene?

    All the best.

    Simon xx   

  • Hi Nicola,

    Great to see that your medical team are pleased with your progress. Their suggestion of adding cream or cheese sounds good advice to increase the calories. As you know, my diet is similar to yours in that I need the added calories (and salt!) and fibre is a No-no for me, so brown bread, jacket potato skins and too much fruit and veg per day, are not on the menu! (Still have trouble with this 'unhealthy' diet I find myself on!)

    Glad to read that you're taking a friend to Euro Disney too! Bet you're looking forward to all the excitement of meeting Mickey and the Disney Princesses! We saw a lot of Chip N Dale when we were there (or Tic N Toe I think they were called in French! Or was it Tic N Tac?) Never mind!  I digress!

    You mention 'granulation' when talking about your PEG. Excuse my ignorance, but what is granulation? I'm imagining over generation of skin cells round the PEG? Or am I wildly off beam?

    You kindly asked about any updates on my liver op. You may regret asking

    Well, following an MRI at the end of January, I met my liver surgeon in early Feb. I was aware that there were two, operable tumours in my liver from my previous scan in October '13. So my partner and I went into the meeting thinking we would be discussing the op and clarifying a date.

    Unfortunately, my most recent scan showed another tumour had developed! I was rather taken aback as my last CT had shown that one of the tumours was no longer detectable! But CT scans are less clear than MRI's so sadly, there it was, in shades of grey, (don't think there were 50!     ) on the surgeons monitor! Three of the pesky blighters!

    All the questions I'd prepared disappeared out of my head, so I've no idea how big they are, if they're near veins etc etc!

    The upshot is, we're 'waiting' until April when I will be re-scanned to see if anymore stray cells have 'settled' and emerged as tumours. Then it will be decided if an op is still possible! Chemo is no longer an option as I had a mighty big reaction to it over Christmas!

    The rationale behind the doctors advice is so that I'm not operated on now, only to find more tumours in a few months. I'm also hoping to have my stoma reversed at the same time - 2 for the price of one! But obviously, this all depends on the next scan results!

    So in the mean time, I'm going back to work! I've already discussed a phased return with the head teacher, but it looks like I'm back in the classroom during week one! Hey, if I can deal with  bowel cancer, 30 kids ain't going to faze me! (Hollow laugh!!!)   

    Maybe Simon and I can compare our 'Back to work' exploits?

    I wish you well with your scan next week, Nicola. Let us know how you get on.

    Take care, and keep up the good work! (Just practising for my 'back to work' )  

    Love and hugs, Jo xx

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  • Hi Nicola,

    Great to see that your medical team are pleased with your progress. Their suggestion of adding cream or cheese sounds good advice to increase the calories. As you know, my diet is similar to yours in that I need the added calories (and salt!) and fibre is a No-no for me, so brown bread, jacket potato skins and too much fruit and veg per day, are not on the menu! (Still have trouble with this 'unhealthy' diet I find myself on!)

    Glad to read that you're taking a friend to Euro Disney too! Bet you're looking forward to all the excitement of meeting Mickey and the Disney Princesses! We saw a lot of Chip N Dale when we were there (or Tic N Toe I think they were called in French! Or was it Tic N Tac?) Never mind!  I digress!

    You mention 'granulation' when talking about your PEG. Excuse my ignorance, but what is granulation? I'm imagining over generation of skin cells round the PEG? Or am I wildly off beam?

    You kindly asked about any updates on my liver op. You may regret asking

    Well, following an MRI at the end of January, I met my liver surgeon in early Feb. I was aware that there were two, operable tumours in my liver from my previous scan in October '13. So my partner and I went into the meeting thinking we would be discussing the op and clarifying a date.

    Unfortunately, my most recent scan showed another tumour had developed! I was rather taken aback as my last CT had shown that one of the tumours was no longer detectable! But CT scans are less clear than MRI's so sadly, there it was, in shades of grey, (don't think there were 50!     ) on the surgeons monitor! Three of the pesky blighters!

    All the questions I'd prepared disappeared out of my head, so I've no idea how big they are, if they're near veins etc etc!

    The upshot is, we're 'waiting' until April when I will be re-scanned to see if anymore stray cells have 'settled' and emerged as tumours. Then it will be decided if an op is still possible! Chemo is no longer an option as I had a mighty big reaction to it over Christmas!

    The rationale behind the doctors advice is so that I'm not operated on now, only to find more tumours in a few months. I'm also hoping to have my stoma reversed at the same time - 2 for the price of one! But obviously, this all depends on the next scan results!

    So in the mean time, I'm going back to work! I've already discussed a phased return with the head teacher, but it looks like I'm back in the classroom during week one! Hey, if I can deal with  bowel cancer, 30 kids ain't going to faze me! (Hollow laugh!!!)   

    Maybe Simon and I can compare our 'Back to work' exploits?

    I wish you well with your scan next week, Nicola. Let us know how you get on.

    Take care, and keep up the good work! (Just practising for my 'back to work' )  

    Love and hugs, Jo xx

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