Prescription Cannabis Flower

There are a number of postings on here about the possible benefits of cannabis oil but not so much on prescription cannabis flower.

I have suffered for 3 years now from peripheral neuropathy brought on by chemo-therapy treatment for bowel cancer. I have been treated by Palliative Medicine and also by the Chronic Pain Clinic. No orthodox drugs have made any significant improvement. Neither have less orthodox treatments such as acupuncture or electric pulse therapy. 

I joined online support groups and the one treatment that never brought up a negative reply was prescription cannabis. 

I am now on prescription cannabis (20% THC) for smoking via a vaporiser during the day and oil at night. Does anyone here have experience of smoking cannabis flower through a vaporiser to help cope with the pain of neuropathy? It is not intended to get rid of the pain but to make me care less about the pain if you understand what I mean.

Regards - Frank

  • Hello jukeboxfrankie,
    Thank you for posting.
    Please be aware that currently, you can only access medical cannabis if you have a prescription from either the NHS or a registered private doctor. But it is still illegal to smoke cannabis flower – even if you have a prescription – and to possess cannabis bought from any other source.
    In the UK, it is always illegal to smoke cannabis - regardless of its prescription status.
    This is because when substances like cannabis are set alight, dangerous, carcinogenic chemicals are released, and these can have serious implications for a person’s health. 
    Cancer Research would not recommend, advise, or endorse, administering medication in a way that is hazardous to health.  The only safe and legal way to inhale prescribed cannabis is vaporisation. If prescribed, dried cannabis flower is administered using a vaporiser.
    For more information please visit our website for information about the uses and side effects of cannabis for cancer patients There is also useful information on the NHS website about medical cannabis and some specific information about the pros and cons of prescribed cannabis flowers
    Thank you.
    Best wishes,
    Renata, Cancer Chat Moderator
  • Thank you Renata for approving my thread. I will underline 2 points that I make in my opening posting and they are firstly that this is prescription cannabis not street bought cannabis and secondly that it is smoked through a vaporiser and not mixed with tobacco. It is not set alight in a vaporiser.

    I am keen to hear from anyone else who has tried this route successfully or otherwise.

    Frank

  • Hello Frank

              reading through your post l can empathise with the effects of neuropathy. Having become one of the lucky recipients following Bowel Cancer treatment l can attest to the ever present effects of this blessing.

    Now ten years on from the onset of this problem, l spent the first three years dropping everything and constantly falling over with unfeeling throbbing feet. l lived with kneepads to protect myself. What it did not do was deter me from getting back to where l was before

    Your last sentence struck a chord insomuch as l fully understand what you are trying to convey. Where l would differ with you is the method of how you arrive at that position.

    It took three years for my command centre, l hesitate to use the term brain, to finally give up the futile task of constantly informing me that l was in pain, since my mind was not open to hearing that message as it was not an option l wished to persue.

    Now fully housed during the day, it restricts itself to letting me know that my feet are very sore at the end of a full working day, and informs me of the blissful relief from them as l climb into bed and the suggestion of pain evaporates within 30 minutes at worst

    The pain will never go,but its how the information about it is controlled, your suggested route of numbing your command centre leads to not being able to differentiate between the information of what you need and what you don't. Whereas l prefer the option of training to allow the bad to get locked away leaving the remaining functions unaffected.

    It took a time but the end result was well worth it, there were no shortcuts or aids as such, just willpower and determination, l view it as sticking plaster or cure. Each of us are different and l hope you are able to find your way of coping with it,

    David

  • David, very many thanks for sharing your story.

    Yes, dropping things and stumbling over have been part of my life for the past 3 years. I know exactly what you mean.

    In one sense, prescription cannabis is meant to do pretty well what drugs such as duloxetine are meant to do. Duloxetine is said, by the Pain Clinic, to be the most effective drug for treating neuropathy but only has a postive effect on less than 20% of suffers. It was developed as an anti-depressant drug which interrupts the signals to the brain. But for me, and many others, it turns you into a zombie.  For 3 or 4 months, I was living in a fog until I said "no more".

    I have accepted that the pain will never go away now. It is there every second of every minute of every hour of every day. The first sensation you feel when you wake up and the last you feel when/if you get to sleep. I have found it overwhelming at times.

    Hopefully my "command centre" will get the message that yours has and allow me to lock away the bad as you have suceeded in doing.

    Many thanks again and good wishes on your continuing journey.

    Frank

  • Hi Franķ

    I think your conclusion as to how cannabis helps relieve pain is by putting you in a space where you are more relaxed and takes the focus off the pain. In a similar way that the mild antidepressant amytipptaline  works. I had bad pain in my jaw after surgery and radiotherapy and the painkillers that did work also left me dopey and tired. TENS electrical was out as it is not to be used on head or neck. I tried smoking  the flowering buds through a waterpipe. (I know its not as healthy as a vape) as I am a non smoker. It was not as strong as the 20% THC flowers you have or on prescription. But it quickly took effect and did to some extent did reduce the pain for a couple of hours. I dont like the feeling it gives though and abandoned it after a few tries. I dont see why the flowers would be any less effective to vapourising oil extract. Perhaps you could let  us know how you get on. Like Dave I try where possible to deal with pain drug free although this is not always an option. I find distraction by keeping occupied is good and can work during the day. And use a method where you meditate and concentrate on the pain then in your mind move that pain to a place outside your body. This does work for a while.  But as the cancer progresses Im finding increased need for analgesics. I hope that you have success with getting some relief from the effects of Peripheral neuropathy.

    Ed

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  • Hi Ed. Very many thanks for joining me in this thread. You are completely correct when you say that the aim is to take the focus off the pain. I was prescribed amitriptyline many years ago after I had shingles. It worked and with no after effects. The Pain Clinic put me on Nortriptyline, which is a more modern version of the drug. But it did not work for this chemo induced neuropathy pain. Maybe as you get older (I am 77), these anti-depressant drugs have stronger side effects.

    You say (of cannibas), "I don't like the feeling it gives". Can you describe that feeling and what it was that you did not like?

    I take it from your last comment that you are not cancer free. I am sorry to hear that. I do wish you well and thank for so much for sharing your story.

    Frank

  • HI Frank

    I am pleased that you are gettiing relief from your prescription cannabis. If you dont mind me asking how much do you pay for a months prescription. You ask about the unpleasant feeling I experienced. Id say over introspection, Im already carrying enough baggage in my head. Unusual thoughts. Paranoia and Lethargy. In addition to this a very dry mouth, I already suffer from this having had a parotid (saliva) gland removed and radiotherapy. So while cannabis is being touted as the new panacea it may not be suitable for everyone. It may have more benefits in your case of peripheral neuropathy than just pain relief. I have a friend who has been successfully using cannabis for 20 years to control spasticity caused by MS. Wishing you a good day ahead.

    Ed

  • Hi Ed. Very many thanks for getting back to me and sharing further information. Most helpful.

    Paranoia is something that you are warned about at the clinic. In fact, they will not prescribe for you if you already have suffered from episodes of this. There are many hoops that you have to get through before you are given a prescription. There is a (short) list of ailments that will qualify for treatment and you have to have been prescribed and failed with at least 2 orthodox treatments. MS is one of the ailments that will qualify.

    The monthly cost of the prescription will depend upon how much you use. 10gm of 20% THC flower costs £55. I also use CBD oil at night (THC 20 mg/ml) and 10ml costs £50. Not a bad price for a guaranteed quality product. That is around a month's supply. But you also need to see a consultant every 3 months and that costs £50 a time. You can take out a subscription service which reduces the cost but I prefer to see how/if it works before commiting. 

    Baggage in your head. I remember Fraser Crane saying something like "We all have our baggage to carry but sometimes that it what makes the journey more interesting". That quote always stuck with me.

    Ed, I wish you well on your journey and thanks again for responding to my thread.

    Frank