breast cancer, with depression and financial troubles

hi, I was diagnosed with breast cancer mid March of this year. 

I was originally told I would be operated on within a month, but because of other medical conditions there was disagreement as to whether I would survive the operation. Eventually it was decided that they would operate as otherwise the outcome was spreading of the cancer and eventually death. In the time they spent arguing the tumour grew by 50%. I had had a previous operation that had left me with a frozen shoulder so was told by the surgeon that I would not be able to place my arm in the correct position for radiotherapy and therefore would have to have a mastectomy rather than a lumpectomy, the lymph nodes would also have to all be removed as the cancer had spread to them, and treatment would be chemotherapy followed by hormone treatment.

I resent the time the surgeons spent arguing because the cancer was growing all the time.

i resent even more that after surgery I saw the oncologist who was horrified at the idea of giving me chemotherapy. He had not been consulted by the surgeon and the first he knew of my medical history was my first appointment with him. He said chemotherapy was likely to kill me. What choice did I have but to insist that I tried anyway. Otherwise where was the point of the surgery. I got half way through the course only to find that I was going into organ failure as the oncologist had predicted. So the treatment left was radiotherapy where for each session my arm was forced into position regardless of the frozen shoulder. I did manage to complete the course, but my skin has reacted badly and two weeks after the last session it is raw and occasionally bleeds. I was also left 2 and a half months between chemo being cancelled and radiotherapy started. Everyone else I spoke to had waited only one month.

I feel that the whole process has been mishandled and that the chances of cancer recurring have been greatly increased by the way my case has been dealt with.

to compound the issue because of how ill I was during the chemotherapy and the period afterwards, the business I had been running successfully for 12 years had to close. My husband put the closure in the hands of another company so he could concentrate on me. They ripped us off and out of over £100000 worth of stock we got not one penny. I am now incapable of work because the cancer and it’s treatment has made my other medical conditions so much worse, my husband is my carer and can only work a few hours a week as he needs to be available for me. So we can’t pay the mortgage or the bills. Tried everywhere to get advice and help, including Macmillan supposedly there to help and advise, their advice was to go look on the internet.

i can not walk, we have been turned down for a stair lift because I have blackouts, well stairlifts can have seat belts. So to get up and downstairs I have to crawl on hands and knees. Because of peripheral neuropathy which I already had but which has been worsened by the chemo, I can’t feel my hands and feet so often miss the stair anyway, that results in a slide down the stairs, a painful process when you have had three surgeries in the last 18 months.

i feel there is no one there to help, I had a lot of “friends” including ones I had given both emotional and financial support to over the years. They aren’t there anymore, it appears that since I no longer have anything to give I am worthless.

all this has contributed to the depression I already suffered from for over 20 years and I am now suicidal. The help I got for that was to have the antidepressants changed and a warning that it was obvious that my husband was aware that I was suicidal and therefore if I committed suicide it would be held that he was complicit and would be charged with helping me to commit suicide which would result in a prison sentence.

so I lie in bed waiting for an eviction notice because the council have no obligation to rehouse me until I am homeless.

can anyone tell me why I should carry on?

  • Welcome to Cancer Chat Pepper although I'm so sorry to read what you've been through.

    I can't even begin to comprehend how difficult this must be for you but I'm glad you're reaching out to us as you'll find many of our members have also had similar trials and tribulations to face and I'm sure some of them will reply soon to offer their support and share their experiences with you.

    I know you may not have got the best response when trying to get help for your depression but there are people out there who care and want to help. Samaritans are available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week so do consider getting in touch with them, especially if these suicidal thoughts are a regular occurrence at the moment. I'm going to include some information we have on our website about depression and cancer which I hope will be of some help to you at this time as well.

    I'm not sure if you have got in touch with them already but citizens advice may be able to help with your housing and financial issues so it may be worth getting in touch to see what they say.

    I know this may be difficult to take on board right now but there are people that love you, care about you and want to help you through this Pepper, including our Cancer Chat community.

    Do keep talking to us and remember that you are not alone.

    Kind regards, 

    Steph, Cancer Chat Moderator

  • Thanks, I will look at the depression and cancer link.

    rang citizens advce, then sat and waited 3 hours for a one to one appointment, got told to go look on the internet.....I’ve been told time and again that CAB are the people to help, but if they won’t help where do I turn.

  • OMG no wonder you’re feeling depressed!

    So far as the possible business fraud is concerned, it sounds like it is way outside Citizen’s Advice or MacMillan’s comfort zone. You might give these guys a try for free legal support or find a no win no fee lawyer https://www.lawworks.org.uk/

    Failing that, it might be worth reporting them to the police for fraud. £100k is a lot of money and if they’ve ripped you off the chances are they’ve done it before. 

    Good luck

    Dave

     

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    Hi Pepper,

    It sounds as if you have been well and truly through the mill in the past 9 months. I have had 2 bouts of breast cancer in the past 8 years and have had a lumpectomy, followed by a double mastectomy the following year. I am self-employed and ran my own business. I have had to empoy others to fill my place and know the difficulties that this has produced.

    Like you, I had previously contacted MacMillan for advice and although I was promised the moon, nothing was forthcoming. When I returned after 3 or 4 months to enquire about the delay, nobody knew anything about my applications and the lady I dealt with seemed to have left.

    When I eventually found out that the CAB was the place to go for financial advice, I made an appointment. It took quite some time before this came through, but I got a lady who normally deals with stroke applications. This was partly because my hubby has had a stroke. She came out to the house and was accompanied by another gentleman. She came to my home on a number of occasions, filled in benefit forms for myself and my hubby and even attended a tribunal with me. She was really very helpful.

    Have you contacted your Social Work department? Someone there should also be able to help you. I do hope that you can get your finances sorted out as soon as possible. You are better to face this head-on rather than wait until you are dispossessed of your home. If you have tried all of the aforementioned sources, it might be worth contacting someone offering debt consolidation. If you decide to do this be careful to choose a reputable company.

    I do so hope that you can get on top of this soon, as a cancer diagnosis is hard enough to deal with, without having financial problems as well.

    Please let us know how you get on, as there are many people on this site who find life financially difficult following a cancer diagnosis. I am sure that they might benefit from your experience at the end of the day. Don't forget that we are always here for you.

    Kind regards,

    Jolamine xx

     

  • Hi Dave,

    thanks for the link, I don't think we can persue it at this time as we have so much else to contend with. Our request for help from CAB and Macmillan was for help with finances and housing, we never even got as far as mentioning the business to them. But I will keep the link in case we decide to try to do anything about it in the future.

  • Hey,

    my dad has stage 4 pancreatic cancer and it’s uncurable. 

    he is weak and his whole world and ours is turned upside down but I find peace in knowing he is still here and still doing his best to fight for each day and that means a lot. even if you feel weak and things are going wrong for you, remember happy times and that it would rip your husbands world apart if you were to do anything. be brave, be strong and keep fighting this. 

    tour doing really well , we too have been let down by medical professionals but this is your life and it means so much your here today. 

     

    Xx

  • Hi jolamine,

    thanks for your reply. In my area, Derby City, you aren’t allowed to make appointments for citizens advice, you have to just turn up and wait and you get whoever is the next available advisor.

    ive seen a social worker, I asked what she could help me with, but she turned the question back on me and asked what we wanted her to help with. I had to answer that I didn’t know what help she was able to give us, and she wouldn’t say, just kept asking what we wanted. That was where the stairlift application came from.

    ive also been assigned a support worker to visit me every week, I met him once and then didn’t see him for eight weeks. He had told us on the first meeting that he could give us all the advice we needed to get the financial problems sorted, so the frustration of keep waiting for him to come each week only for him not to turn up was immense. I’ve since seen him twice and he has admitted that actually he can’t help with the financial side at all, he is assigned to be my “friend” so that I have someone I can trust and talk to. After a beginning like that how can i trust him? I have a physiatric nurse who is to visit every two weeks. Her last visit was three weeks ago and her next is in four weeks. She left information for me to read and an app to look at to help with my depression. Please bear in mind I spend virtually 24 hours a day in bed and am in serious financial difficulties. the leaflet suggested I try such activities as ice skateing, skateboarding, mountain climbing, swimming, dance the night away in a night club, play with stocks and shares, buy an expensive dress, book appointments to test drive expensive cars. The app suggested such as running on the spot for five minutes. So the nurse had obviously spent considerable time reading my medical notes and observing mesitting in bed on her first visit to me.

    we are trying to face it head on but everything seems against us. Two days ago I received a letter from the bank saying they were taking legal action against me. I immediately phoned to enquire why as my husband had been in contact with the bank to try to work with them towards some sort of solution. I was told that my husband and I were two separate legal entities and one could not speak for the other. This was despite the fact that my husband had since first contacting them made it clear that he was speaking for us both. The person i spoke to just kept repeating that I need to have a full and frank discussion with my husband. My husband was out at the time so I had to wait three hours for his return before he could speak to the bank. They eventually admitted they were at fault as my husband had indeed been speaking for us both but that the bank had omitted to ask for this in writing.

    all this is affecting my husband as much as it is me, we have been arguing continually, but last night for the first time in 23 years of marriage my husband took hold of me and shook me violently. It frightened me, but it has frightened me more that he held me so tightly on my upper arms and shook so hard that he left marks. I’ve been told that I should not even have blood pressure tests done on my left arm because of loosing all the lymph nodes and I am scared in case any damage has been done as my arm has throbbed all night. It’s starting to ease now But can any of you tell me if there are any symptoms I should be looking out for? I don’t think he meant to hurt me but I am worried that our marriage is going to fail. I got desperate enough to ring the Samaritans but they could only suggest I go to a friend or family member that will take me in. I have none, and no way of getting there anyway. And I don’t want to leave my husband, I love him deeply, it’s all the stress that is tearing us apart.

  • Thank you Tinkerbell,

    im really sorry about your Dad.

    ive been in and out of hospitals since I first got ill at 17. And my Dad had cancer four times before he died of a heart attack. All those years I’ve praised the nhs, there’s been an odd bad one but on the whole they were brilliant. But since I got cancer it’s all changed, and maybe some of it is my attitude,  but not all. I was assigned a breast care nurse that I would be able to keep in contact with, she is never available and never returns my calls. Something went wrong with the nerves when they did my op, I have an area on my back and running down the outside of my arm that is very very painful, I can’t bear it to be touched. Five months Ive spent trying to get my breast care nurse to take me seriously. My physio says it is hyper sensitivity but that she has never seen it in that area and doesn’t know what to do.  In the end I asked for an appointment with my oncologist, he has given me a months supply of gabapentin and then if it hasn’t calmed down he will need to take it further, not sure what that means...

    you hear all the time how caring the cancer nurses are, I’d just like to see a little of that sometime.

    im trying so hard to hang on but feel like I am being hit from every direction and .i don’t know how to cope.

  • Your here today fighting. 

    Only you can fight - as for the lack of care from nurses ring Macmillan and you can talk to them on the phone and they can arrange for a new nurse to come and visit you. 

    Your not alone on this scary journey. 

  • Oh gosh I am so sorry you are suffering like this. Is there anyway you could move your care to a hospital in Nottingham? Or even Leicester. 

    I go to Glenfield and they are amazing. I have to admit I have only had two appointments but in that time I have had a biopsy, blood test, ECG, umpteen mammograms, a scan, a CT scan and an MRI. I have a cancer nurse although I have not yet tried to ring her so not sure what her availability is, but she seemed very nice at the consultation.

    Can Social Services or Age Uk help you? 

    I realise it must be a terrible strain for your husband also - I do hope you can get your relationship back on track and pull together. 

    Sending you love and hugs