When cancer you have is so rare you need four surgeons and two oncologists opinions to get to a treatment plan……

In June of this year I woke up with a small lump on the bottom right of my neck. This, maybe 1cm lump did me a favour, we all get lumps, bumps, aches, pains and neuroses that could be something but generally never amount to anything. In this case I just didn’t feel right so I pushed for a meet with my GP. My surgery, thankfully, squeezed me in and my GP just took one look and said yeah, cancer pathway.

So we panic, right? Every useful and useless thought flies through your head. Within two days got to see an ENT specialist. They said ‘nothing suspicious, can’t be, cancer doesn’t grow that quickly.’

Wary but relieved, went home. Two days later it (lump) had doubled in size. Went back to my GP and they pushed and pulled and got me back in to see ENT. Same thing, can’t be cancer, doesn’t grow that quickly, but we’ll get an ultrasound and a biopsy. they still maintained, it’s probably a cyst, so don’t worry.

Ultrasound…….***, it’s not a cyst. Booked in for many scans whilst we wait for biopsy results. A CT and MRI later then a call from the ENG team, we need to do a PET scan. Didnt say why, but of course, by this stage we all have become experts at research on google, they only use PET to look for cancer, double ***.

Three days post PET scan ENT consultant called, this is ‘Primary Squamous Cell Carcinoma of the Thyroid’ (PSCCOT) - do what now!!! ‘And by the way we are going to operate next week’…..eeeeek.

One 9 hour operation later, woke up with many, many tubes including a tracheostomy. A week later, on the ward, surgeon who operated said we are going to treat this cancer like laryngeal cancer, even though the pathology shows PSCCOT, and we should probably think about removing the larynx……what?!?

This is where the, er fun, started.

Three more surgeons, two oncologists later and all of them have stated why would you treat your cancer in that way if it’s not all over your larynx?

They all agreed that because PSCCOT is so rare (and I quote) ‘one/two cases every three to four years’ there simply isn’t the data available to make that call, so why go launching straight for the larynx. 

Honestly, alongside the physical changes required with a full laryngectomy the psychological impact of going backwards and forwards on this in the last few months have been horrible. Our sanity has been tested alongside the physical impact of the original operation.

I wonder, has anyone else been through something similar? Or in fact been diagnosed here with Primary Squamous cell carcinoma the thyroid?

thanks for reading and listening,

Ian 

  • Hi Ian,

    This is not a cancer that I know much about. I am a breast cancer lady. I noticed that you haven't had any replies yet and just wanted to send you a very warm welcome to our forum. It sounds as if you've been having quite a time of it lately. It is always difficult when you have a rare cancer, as I discovered with my own. I can imagine your horror when your surgeon told you, only a week after your operation, that he wanted to remove your larynx. The one good thing, is that he has sought the advice of other surgeons and oncologists, who don't concur with this advice.

    Where has this left you - is it a case of wait and see? My heart goes out to you and I sincerely hope that you won't need the laryngectomy. I am sure that others who have more experience of this type of cancer will be along to chat with you soon.

    In the meantime, please keep in touch and let us know how things progress. We are always here for you.

    Kind regards,

    Jolamine 

  • Hi Jolamine, thank you for the warm welcome.

    hope your particular journey is a positive one.

    its been a rollercoaster simply put. Because it was so fast there was so much information all at once. We just kept asking the same questions over and over again and then asked them again. My partner was able to research academic papers and get a very basic but critical understanding that helped pose some of those questions. We checked the facts we were being offered by the original consultant with other consultants as well as there were answers that gave us moments of pause and it worked because they were slightly concerned by the advice we had been given.

    Not everyone gets that opportunity or support in that short period of time.

    Now, because we have pushed and asked the surgeon at the hospital and two others have said a full removal would be very much over the top and, radio and chemo will clear out whatever is left. 

    that’s where I am now at the beginning of six weeks of chemo and radiotherapy.

    so it’s been difficult but at the same time positive and would encourage anyone to just keep asking questions because it’s such a difficult and confusing time.

    Ian 

  • It does look a very, very difficult and confusing time. I just want to wish you the very best for your treatment.

    I have read that before, that people should ask questions. We find that we have no idea what questions we should be asking.

  • Thank you Mary, honestly had I not had my partner and family close by I would have probably not asked as much,  And you’re absolutely right, what exactly do you ask and when, for the first week and an half after surgery I couldn’t speak and ward rounds were just a bunch of people talking at me. That is not to say they didn’t care but I just found it difficult to communicate and ask.

    What really helped was the Macmillan nurse and the tracheostomy nurse, both enabled conversations with my family and got to asking the right questions as time Went on.

  • Hi Ian,

    I totally agree about asking questions, but it is difficult for many people to know what questions to ask. We are bamboozled by a load of medical jargon, which even I found confusing, despite having worked in one of the professions allied to medicine for 52 years. You are fortunate that your partner was able to do the necessary research and to get a basic understanding.

    I hope that your chemo and radiotherapy go as well as possible and that they will clear any remaining cancer - certainly preferable to a laryngectomy, in my humble opinion.

    Please keep in touch and remember that we are always here for you.

    Kind regards,

    Jolamine 

  • Hi Jolamine,

    completely agree, it took some time to even get to a point where we knew what questions to ask and even then we asked them repeatedly. Unfortunately there were some on the ward who didn’t have that.

    If I do anything as I go through the next phase and beyond it’ll be aiming to support wherever I can.

    thank you, I’ll update as I go though the next bit

    Ian