Dad given two months to live.

Hi there, 

Im totally new here, I am just so upset right now and wondered if anyone had any advice. 

My dad got diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer last week. It was a shock. He only went to hospital with a chest infection. He came home on Saturday, they were giving the antibiotics a chance to work and had booked him in for a biopsy on the 30th but this morning he rumg me and told me he didn't feel well and said he thought he may have to go back to hospital as he'd been coughing up blood for two hours. I got to my parents in ten minutes, planned on putting him in my car and driving him to A and E but he was in absolute agony. It was horrific. So I called an ambulance. Later on it turned out its spread to his liver and nymph things

and the consultant told dad he only had a couple of months left in him. Mums been crying all day my dad has just gone into a state of shock. I'm trying to blank it out for now because I have to be strong. 

So then they moved dad to a ward for the night. Mum was told she would be able to stay with him over night but when we got to the ward the nurse was pretty harsh and direct with my mum and told her she couldn't stay with him. She said she'd had three other people ask and the answer was no. I couldn't believe it. Her tone, her manner, it was absolutely awful. My poor mother. The nurse then said if she wanted to stay that much she could sit in the day room but only for one night until my dad "gets used to it". They asked me to leave as it was 11pm by the time he went to the ward and away from my mum before I left I explained (through tears) to the nurse that my dad had just been given two months to live and that my parents were terrified and gutted and dad didn't want mum to leave him. I also explained that mum has really bad anxiety and is very sensitive so can't deal with stress as well as most but I was so hurt and upset for my mum. It was a huge blow after the worst week of her life and she was crushed. I've left her now stuck in the day room all night and I just can't believe this is how it is. If mum can't be with dad he will give up straight away. He needs her. Especially tonight. I thought it was so cruel to not let them stay together and to speak to mum like that or am I being over sensitive and this is what it's like if you're terminally ill in hospital? Thanks so much. Sorry for going on. Xxxxxxx

  • Good morning. Sending you mu love and hoping you are doing Ok. It is amazing how you have coped so well , thank you for keeping us updated and I hope all goes well for you next Monday. Keep up the wonderful work you are doing, I'm absolutely sure there are a lot more people in these awful situations in hospitals, and not just cancer suffers. So thank you. x

    Betty

  • Chrissie, it’s the weirdest thing and I don’t want to scare anyone so it could be my imagination but three times now I’ve been doing something and I’ve felt a big hot almost blanket of love being wrapped around me. The first time it happened I was stood outside and it came with the overwhelming smell of the most beautiful perfume and I know it’s my dad. I can’t even explain how I know. But like I said although I find it comforting it could be me just over thinking and I don’t want to make anyone feel uncomfortable. I think we will be ok because of the children and I think you’re right. My mum has a lot of issues from a “hush hush” childhood and it’s got to be better for children if you try to explain as much as you can. 

    I’m going through the complaints process at the moment. The same thing (although the patient didn’t die) happened on the ward where my daughters friend was on placement and she reported it to the uni. It’s just not fair on vulnerable patients and the impact on the families is unbearable. I don’t believe that I personally will make a difference BUT I think that by pushing my complaint as far as possible it helps stop it being brushed under the carpet and maybe the next person it happens to will be taken more seriously. The more people who speak up the better I think but it’s hard to complain they don’t make it easy.

    Ive gone and caught a chest infection now because I’m run down with it, I’ll be coughing and sneezing all the way through dad’s funeral the way it’s going bless him. I miss him so much. He always had a tub of Vick’s on him and I need that now. 

    Big hugs and lots of love. I do love you guys. I can’t thank you enough for chatting to me and helping me along. I just can’t believe I found such an amazing group of friends at the worst time in my life. THANK YOU. Xxxxxxxxxx

  • Oh how wonderful , a blanket of love .. well to those of us that know there's something there .. we know you really did feel your daddy ...  Vinny Jones was on t.v a.m .. talking about his wife .. that hard man of football and those films .. well think he had everyone with a big tear in our eyes ... one part he recalled was the time he stood outside their home and there was arc of light on the sky, that just stayed there .. then before going inside blew a kiss to the arc and it just flew away ... 

    We can't see the air we breath, but we know it's there .. so are our loved ones ... just believe .. it doesn't matter who else believes .. many have missed signs because they tried to logic things ... my oldest son , who my mum adored more then anything .. years later had a bike crash .. half his side was brused and bones broken ... I rushed to the hospital as they took his helmit off there was a perfect kiss mark on his forhead in the colour my mum always wore .. she was always leaving lipstick on his forhead ... there was nothing in the helmit that could have caused it ... yes he was badly hurt,but did she cushion him to keep him safe and leave her mark to let us know ... yes I believe ... 

    You think you may not have changed anything .. but some one who works in hospital, care home may have read this, and changed how they do things ... because of you... Chrissie  

  • Please go and see your GP for your cough. When my husband died and prior to his funeral both of my sons caught pneumonia, I think they picked it up in the hospital visiting their Dad. I felt like I was living a nightmare visiting them in the same hoapital that I hated, where my husband was treated so bad. That's why I feel you should take extra care of yourself.It is definately worth a visit to you G.P The experience you had sounds wonderful treasure it. xx

    Betty

  • Ok, Is everybody ready for the latest installment of our hellish journey? I can’t believe I am writing this... 

    You know how I was talking about my dad’s funeral arrangements earlier? Well here we go......

    4.30 this afternoon the funeral director called my mum and asked her to pop round to his office to talk. 

    She came back 20 minutes later absolutely broken. 

    Hes been trying to get my dad’s body into “care” now numerous times and the hospital keep refusing to release dad’s body because the doctors aren’t signing the paperwork. (We didn’t know any of this until 4.30 today). 

    The paperwork had to be in place by this evening but despite this they still haven’t done it and will not release him. 

    So the funeral director has cancelled my dad’s funeral. We can no longer have the chapel we wanted as we had the last date before it closes for winter and that’s it. 

    I tried calling the hospital but everyone had left for the day already so I have no idea whats happened. No body from the hospital has contacted us. We are just shocked and confused. I honestly just don’t know what to say. Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

  • Hey Betty, how are you doing? I took your advice and I called my doctor. They didn’t have any appointments but he’s calling me on Friday so hopefully I’ll be able to get something for it. I can’t talk properly now my throat has gone really scratchy. I think you’re right about picking it up  from the ward, I’m run down at the moment too I haven’t been eating much and what I have had hasn’t been too healthy-lots of chocolate as I’m rushing about pretty much. I’m cooking lovely things for mum but you know how when you’ve cooked you don’t want to eat? I always get like that so she’s doing ok but I just don’t feel like eating myself. Did you read my latest installment? I can’t believe it Betty. I was trying to think positively about the funeral and I was trying to focus on making it as lovely as possible for my girls really because they’re so little but even that’s all gone wrong now. If someone told me this whole story I think I’d have trouble believing them you know its been so awful. 

    How are you feeling at the moment? Reading my experiences must bring things back for you and it’s so hard. But lots of love and hugs for you. Xxxxxxxxx

  • Thank  you for thinking of me and taking the trouble to write,  I know it sound so ridiculous but as that actually happened to Paul and Alan, my son's I was just hoping it won't happen to you.  When it happened to them I went to my GP who actually gave me antibiotics, so I suppose I was lucky, lol nothing about any of this is lucky but you know what I mean.  I think stress makes us all vunerable to all sorts of stuff and it seems to happen when every one else think its all over, so just take good care of yourself.

    Betty xxx

     

  • It does bring it back for me, I actually could not even look on here for a while, it's fine if it happens to you, just do what you need to keep yourself going, a day at a time seems laughable but it's what you do. xx Hugs and good thoughts to you.

  • Hi migi just noticed you've got more problems caused by the hospital it's unbelievable after everything was arranged for the funeral, if you're feeling rough you want to try a drop in clinic it'll be quicker than Dr especially if you have picked up something, remember your going to be run down what you've been doing lately and not eating properly Fridays a way off especially if it's only a phone call, not to see you, or try A&E, hope you get sorted soon best wishes. Billy x.

    P.s were all here rooting for you, but get well soon, hope your mum is OK with all the hassle. Again best wishes.. You need them.. 

  • Hi Betty, 

    You’re right my friend I’ve mentioned before who had cancer in her thirties has been saying it to me. She has a lot of stress herself so I’ve been saying it to her, you know, take care, look after yourself too. Yesterday she fell over in the street and grazed herself to pieces. She texted me to tell me and said that’s enough for today, she was putting her feet up and her husband was bringing her a cup of tea. They say stress is a killer and it’s easy to see why. I think a lot of people THINK they have stress but on here I think we all know what real stress is. I did ear last night afterwards but you feel a bit numb and not yourself so it’s hard to think about what you need because like you said you’re just taking it day by day hour by hour. I understand you not feeling able to read things on here for a while too-there were times in the night where normally I’d read and offer a Bit of advice to people but I couldn’t. I just Felt too empty and numb. I don’t know how you are coping with what happened, we are struggling it’s horrible. It’s bad enough that your husband and my dad were in agony and treated so badly but they’re at peace now. But for us you and us it feels like we will never be at peace because we will always know what happened and how they suffered. It’s awful. Families shouldn’t be put through that pain. But it is one day at a time and the sun is shining here. What’s it like with you? I’ve already had a phone call from the hospital they’re trying to release dad’s body. They’re going to call the crem and try to get the funeral back on for Monday but Mum’s been up all night in tears. Sending lots of love and big hugs to you and thank you for mine. Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx