Dad given two months to live.

Hi there, 

Im totally new here, I am just so upset right now and wondered if anyone had any advice. 

My dad got diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer last week. It was a shock. He only went to hospital with a chest infection. He came home on Saturday, they were giving the antibiotics a chance to work and had booked him in for a biopsy on the 30th but this morning he rumg me and told me he didn't feel well and said he thought he may have to go back to hospital as he'd been coughing up blood for two hours. I got to my parents in ten minutes, planned on putting him in my car and driving him to A and E but he was in absolute agony. It was horrific. So I called an ambulance. Later on it turned out its spread to his liver and nymph things

and the consultant told dad he only had a couple of months left in him. Mums been crying all day my dad has just gone into a state of shock. I'm trying to blank it out for now because I have to be strong. 

So then they moved dad to a ward for the night. Mum was told she would be able to stay with him over night but when we got to the ward the nurse was pretty harsh and direct with my mum and told her she couldn't stay with him. She said she'd had three other people ask and the answer was no. I couldn't believe it. Her tone, her manner, it was absolutely awful. My poor mother. The nurse then said if she wanted to stay that much she could sit in the day room but only for one night until my dad "gets used to it". They asked me to leave as it was 11pm by the time he went to the ward and away from my mum before I left I explained (through tears) to the nurse that my dad had just been given two months to live and that my parents were terrified and gutted and dad didn't want mum to leave him. I also explained that mum has really bad anxiety and is very sensitive so can't deal with stress as well as most but I was so hurt and upset for my mum. It was a huge blow after the worst week of her life and she was crushed. I've left her now stuck in the day room all night and I just can't believe this is how it is. If mum can't be with dad he will give up straight away. He needs her. Especially tonight. I thought it was so cruel to not let them stay together and to speak to mum like that or am I being over sensitive and this is what it's like if you're terminally ill in hospital? Thanks so much. Sorry for going on. Xxxxxxx

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  • I am so very sorry for your family. I am also angry, unfortunately my husband also went through an awful time in hospital. Some of the nurses were just downright rude. I am still so angry about his awful treatment there. He discharged himself and came home he died two days later. There was a feeble attempt made to get him registered with a hospice, they called with an appointment after he had died. So please stand up for your Dads rights, Some people shoud never work in hospitals. I thank God every day my husband was  at home with me when he died.

  • Hi Brien,

    I'm so sorry to read about your awful experience with the hospital when he needed end of life care - there is simply no excuse for it. This has nothing to do with a lack of specialist training it is about basic compassionate nursing and treating people with dignity and respect. Receiving a referral to a hospice after your husband died is unforgivable and inexcusable. It also indicates to me systemic failings in a Trust's processes. In a well managed Trust the registration of a patient's death by the GP results in all patient appointment letters being sent out to avoid exactly this situation.

    Please channel your anger into making a formal complaint to the Trust's Chief Executive coped to the CCG and the Care Quality Commission. Those in charge and those supposed to be inspecting hospitals need to be made aware of the grief caused by these failings and those responsible held to account and action taken to stop another family (possibly mine) being treated so shamefully. 

     

    Best wishes
    Dave

     

  • The GP also had a problem with the hospital. He had to wait over a week to get the details of my husbands treatment from the hospital. Him and his secretary called all the time for this paperwork. All it took in the end was an e mail, unfortunately I could not register the death because I needed the certificat e from the Dr. This of course delayed everything. It really was unbelievable.

  • Hi Dave, 

    you are so right. I read your message to Brien and yes. There are huge failings already in dads care and I'm so glad I posted here. ( I'm pretty quiet normally, I don't do social media or get involved with anything that is confrontational) but I agree that by making valid complaints and raising awareness it could save other people from this awful nightmare. As soon as I have dealt with dad I'll do it I just don't have the energy right now and to be truthful I'm scared that if I start making complaints now while he's alive they will all know and be resentful towards us and think of us as trouble makers and when they do come into contact with dad they might be worse to him. It doesn't help that I think my parents are autistic. My mum has mental health issues with anxiety and agoraphobia but I've done a lot of research lately and I am 100% sure they are both somehow autistic. They don't know. My mum says she's weird but doesn't know what's wrong with her and her "weirdness" is magnified under this amount of stress. I only worked it out recently and I'm so glad I did. I've always had a difficult relationship with them because we don't understand each other and I could never work out how they couldn't under stand simple things that were explained to them repeatedly (they aren't stupid, they're both pretty intelligent especially my dad). Now I understand what's wrong with them it's made things good and I've let go of the massive resentment I had for them because they just don't understand. My mums "weirdness" is difficult, I try to explain she has mental health problems when she's talking to the doctors etc... Because she doesn't get it a lot of the time. Like last night I wouldn't let her on the ambulance because she said things like well if it's just a panic attack bring him back into the house now please. It sounded rude and she was hindering things and just not grasping it and that's what she's like and she would be mortified to think she had gotten people's backs up or even irritated them, but there's not even anyone to explain that only me!! And I'm not a mental health care expert. It's just hard. Nothing follows, it's all completely disjointed. Even down to the fact that the number the ward gave her if she was concerned about dad at all can only be used 9-5, and this started at 5.30 on a Friday. I'm so sorry for waffling but basically what I meant was I'm going to make a complaint. 

    Xxxxx

  • I meant to say as well that the air ambulance doctor last night said dad had to see his own doctor on Monday and mentioned he may need a syringe driver and a "just in case" box. I've only just started googling this so not sure about it yet. 

    Xxxxx

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