Heartbroken my Dad has terminal Bladder cancer...

Hello,

I'm brand new to this site, but have found so much encouragement googling peoples similar experiences over the past months that I thought I would get involved in the hope it might help.

My Father discovered he had Bladder Cancer towards the end of last year. After his Cystectomy, the surgeon confirmed that my Dad has a very rare, very aggressive cancer and advised the best course of action would be a Radical Cystecomy. After long discussions he decided that this would the right thing to do. At this stage, his main worry was living with a stoma bag...how wrong we were.

In March of this year he went in for surgery. He spent a few days in the high dependency unit and then was moved to various wards. He endured many set backs and then ended up with a horrible bacterial infection. To cut a long story short, he spent 7 weeks in hospital. He lost 3 stone in this time and he was never a heavy man to begin with. The deterioration was heartbreaking to see as he just became a shadow of his former self. The dietitian only arrived on his discharge day and apparently was not made aware of his case. She was angry that she had only met my Dad at this stage and could only apologise for the mix up. Angry as we all were that my Dad had been forgotten about in this way, we just wanted to get him home. We were so upset at the lack of support he received that was promised to him prior to any operation. We were made to believe he would have a strong team behind him and sadly this was not the case. He was discharged but had to travel to the hospital every day for nearly two weeks (45 minutes away from home) to receive a 30 minute anti biotic drip to try and help with the bacterial infection. This trip each day was a massive struggle for him as he was so weak.

We waited 8 weeks for the biopsy results. We were told, very coldly, that the aggressive cancer had spread to the near lymph nodes and that they discovered he also has prostate cancer. A different cancer that wasn't AS aggressive, but more cancer none the less. The Surgeon did not explain how serious this was and just said he will need to come back in 6 months for another scan.

Terrified of this diagnosis, I researched day and night and got in touch with Macmillan who were a fantastic support. At last, I felt someone was being honest and kind to us. They advised me to call his GP who has also been fantastic. After a very long discussion with him, he confirmed that this is not going to end well and that its not a case of 'if ' the cancer will spread but when. I was then left to pass this information onto my Dad and family. Heartbreaking conversations to have with my family who are all look up to my Dad as much as I do. 

A Macmillan nurse was out to visit him within a week and was so gentle but direct in her approach that I think it was finally sinking in with my Dad. I saw him cry for the first time throughout this horrible journey and I seen how scared and vulnerable he really was. 

My Dad has decided that he isn't going to have anymore treatment which we all completely respect and understand but the road ahead is just so terrifying. As my Dad wants to stay at home and be cared for by my Mum,  the district nurse visited him yesterday. She brought the 'Just in case' box which was absolutely huge! My Dad was told that it contains all of the things he might need for the end and he quietly went to bed without saying much. 

I am hurting so much for him. He is my absolute hero and I have been there every step of the way throughout all the consultations and hospital visits so feel closer than ever. He is a very proud man and hides behind his fears with jokes, but I know he is scared and just so sad that this is all happening so fast. 

Its so difficult feeling there is nothing we can do and I'm just so worried that he will sink into a bad place and not be able to lift himself out.  I worry for my Mum too who is anxious for the road ahead. Although she cared for my Grandparents at home, this is a different scenario. It is her Husband, so the emotions are running high. We have never had to deal with Cancer this close and we are all muddling through, but no idea what to expect. I have constant butterflies in my tummy and feel I need to just put these nervous feelings to one side for the sake of my family and 11 month old baby. 

Sorry for the ridiculously huge post, but even writing this out seems to help. 

  • Oh, Clare, what a traumatic journey you have had, sometimes I feel the doctors aren't very good at communicating with us.    Your poor dad must be feeling quite confused by all the different scenarios.  I have been through this myself, from being told by my surgeon that I would live till my nineties to 3 months later being told I was incurable and my cancers were life limiting.  

    The thing that I am sure will help your dad the most is knowing he has such caring people around him who so obviously love him. Think I would put that box out of sight though, not a nice reminder for him or you.

    Please come back and let us kniw how your dad and you snd your family are.   x

  • Thank you so much for your message Pauline4, it really does mean a lot. I'm so sorry to hear your story too, it must be so difficult for you. You seem to have a positive outlook on things which I truly think is half the battle!

    Totally cliche, but things like this really do make you evaluate whats important and make you life everyday to its fullest.

    I visited him this afternoon and he seems in slighly better spirits. He shares a birthday with my Daughter who will be one next month. We have booked a trip up North for us all at a very tranquil log cabin overlooking a Loch, so I think thats really giving him something to focus on. I just pray that he is able to make it as the antibiotics are really taking it out of him. The Macmillan Nurse said that he can up his steroids slightly for that weekend just to give his a little more energy. I think some time away from all the bad news will do him the power of good and hopefully give him some time to take it all in.

    Good advice about the box. My Mum and I hid it away today as it wasn't making anyone focus on the here and now which really is whats important.

    You are absolutely right about the Doctors. Just glad he feels he know has a bit of a team behind him now and isn't so isloated. 

    I hope you have good support too as it is so important at times like these! Thanks again Pauline, talking about it is helping more than you know.

    Clare Xx

     

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    xHi clare

    I am sorry to hear about everything you are going through, you sound like a very strong women. My dad too has terminal cancer and is now struggling day to day. All the emotions you list are very familiar. I am struggling with all the pain of seeing what is happening to my dad and the helplessness that comes with it. My mum is caring for him at home too but she broke down today at the fear of when he is gone and the unexpected. I hope you find comfort on here and I hope that amongst all this darkness you can enjoy ur time with you dad and family.

     

  • Hi Charli8,

    Thanks very much for your reply. I am so sorry to hear your Dad is going through a similar thing.

    Its just awful and horrible to see it happening right in front of you with nothing you can do to stop it. My Mum also has been great but understandably breaks down in tears at times. I agree, its just the unknown that is so frightening! Also finding it difficult to reiterate the details of how my Dad is to friends and neighbours. I know everyone is thinking of my Dad and wanting to wish him well, its just hard for us all to tell them thats its not the happy ending we are all hoping for. 

    I am hoping to go away with my parents, husband and baby Daughter this weekend, but he is just so weak and has no appetite I'm not sure if this is possible. We have our MacMillan Nurse visiting today, so I'm guessing she will shed some light.Think it would do us all the world of good, but need to just wait and see I suppose.

    I hope you are also managing ok. So much easier said than done when its all you can think about, but great advice about enjoying the time we have. Lucky in a way as so many people dont get the opportunity to say how they feel and tell them how loved they are.

    Thinking of you and sending you good wishes.

    Clare Xx 

  • Clare, how does your dad feel about going away - or being left behind.?  I know many of us feel apprehensive about going away when we don't feel so good, there is a need to be close to familiar thing including health care professionals.  I know, recently, I nearly canceled a short break, but so glad I didnt because I had a pleasant time and would have been upset if I hadnt gone.

    Having said all this,if your dad really isn't up to it, then that is a completely different thing.  At the end of the day I would talk to your dad and let it be his decision alone. x

  • Hi Clare, sorry to hear what an awful journey this has been for you and your family.
    I can relate to alot of things that you are saying, my dad has stomach cancer and we don't find out if it's terminal until next Friday. It already feels like this has been a long emotional journey but I know we have a long way to go.
    It took almost 4 month for my dads diagnosis (the doctors were adamant it was a viral infection, then a stomach ulcer) and within this time he's lost 4 stone and went through the worst pain of his life (whats worse is i know theres far worse to come)
    My dad like yours hid his fears behind jokes, but i can see beyond that and I know he's terrified.  
    It's an awful place to be watching someone who was once so strong so scared and I just wanted to let you know that you are not alone and I will be thinking about you and your family.  
    Sarah xx

  • Hi Pauline4,

    Nice to hear from you again. I hope you are keeping ok?

    We leave (with my Dad) tomorrow morning and I think its the main thing that is keeping him going at the moment. The log cabin we are staying in is only1 hour 30 min from home, so I know that is a comfort to him. It is very tranquil, overlooking a Loch.  He has many fond memories of this area, so think it would do him the world of good! Still no appetite, but managing little yoghurts and ensure drinks which is good. He now has a walking stick, so feels more confident being out...although he cant walk any distance at all.

    If all goes to plan, he will be sitting in a comfy chair, having a glass of wine, listening to his favourite music and looking out to beautiful scenery, putting the illness behind him for a long weekend :) He has a very close bond with my Daughter too so always enjoys watching her crawl around causing havoc! We are all aware that it will be a slow pace holiday, but more than happy just to sit with him make wonderful memories.

    So glad you got to get away,I really am!! 

    Clare Xx

  • Hi Sarah,

    Thanks for your message. I am so sorry to hear about your Dad. Its just a horrible thing to go through and it drains you of everything! Such a shame about the long diagnosis. This just seems to be happening far too often. The waiting is really tough. Even though my Dad's diagnosis is heartbreaking, at least we all know what is going on now. I just found it so difficult to get straight answers from people but am glad I kept on top of it all and really pushed to know what was happening with him.  MacMillan are really great. They have helped me a lot since this has all happened.

    4 stone is such a lot of weight, your poor Dad!! Its terrible seeing such a change in their physical appearance as it constantly reminds you of the illness. Its just as horrible seeing their confidence go too.

    I suppose all we really can do is listen to them, be there for them and tell them we love them. 

    Here for you if you need to talk. I hope everything goes well next Friday, really do! He is lucky to have such a caring Daughter and that will be a great comfort to him :)

    Clare Xx

  • Oh Clare, I am so happy that your dad is going with you.  I hope you have a wonderful time, I really do. x

  • Thank you so much Pauline!! I'll let you know how it it goes. Have a lovely weekend! X