Caring for someone who's lost the will to live.

Hello,

My mum was diagnosed with temrinal cancer in January this year She's been ill since last year but had been too stubborn to go to the doctors so in reality I've been caring for her since October last year. It came as a total shock as we were led to believe it was a possible ruptured gall bladder. Anyway she decided straight away she wanted to come home. I raised my concerns as to how I would manage as it's just me who lives with her. I was assured by hospital staff that under a fast track discharge there would be visits form carers, community nurses and Macmillan nurses and I'd get all the help I needed. Well in reality all they arranged was the patient transport to dump her at the front door. After a couple of days the only person to turn up was the occupational therapist who was so shocked that although it wasn't her job helped me chase everything up. The first few days of mum being home seemed promising as the morphone kicked in she seemed  less pain and more mobile than she had been for ages. However one day that week she went to bed and has pretty much not got up since bar the odd hospital admission for infections. She lays in bed all day, doesn't want visitors, no magazines to read and occasionally won't even turn the TV on. We hardly have a decent conversation and she shows no care in what I'm doing etc, all it feels like is her asking me to get this and that. She's refusing to take anti-sickness medication as she claims they make her sick so is constantly vomiting. She doesn't like the laxative drinks so hardly takes them resulting in constant constipation and pain. We have three carers a day but they are hit and miss and I spend my life emptying the commode and sick bucket. All the professionals involved have tried to encourage her to take her medication and try moving more but she outright refuses. Therefore they all seem to have given up on her and their visits seem shorter and shorter. I can't remember the last time I heard from the Macmillan nurse and to be fair she's been lessw than helpful when I have spoken to her. The only response I ever get is that she needs to take her medication and sit out more - I know but she refueses and I can't make her. Therefore my mum spends most of the evenings screaming in pain and vomiting. The screams just penetrate your head and just haunt me all day. I initially took a very caring approach believing she only had days / weeks to live and wanting to spend quality time with her. However now the months are passing I really can't cope with it anymore especially as I've returned to work full time. My employer has been great and allowed flexi-time etc which has been a lifesaver. My sister lives too far away. Although she comes down occasionally and is great with practical stuff like cleaning she really doesn't understand as she doesn't live with it constantly and doesn't hear the screaming in the evenings. My mum is refusing to go into respite care and they can't make her as she has all her faculties and knows what she is doing although it is clear she doesn't care what she is doing. My GP has expressed concern for my wellbeing and suggested medication but I really can't see how that is going to help although I accept I will have to try. I think my mum needs the anti-dpressants - not me! However that's another things she's refusing. I've recently tried the more firm approach telling my mum I can't cope anymore and she needs to help herself. She's done nothing but just tells me to stop going on as she's crying. I suggested I should move out if its the only way to show we're not coping to which she just responded 'good'. Part of me wants to just to make a point but I know she's have a fall or a diabetic hypo (these have become frequent since the started cancer meds). and I can't live with myself knowing that she's going to die or be in severe pain just because I'm not around when I could be. I accept she's going to die but I can't believe with the current system and lack of joined up working with professionals that she can die at home with any dignity. My lasting memories of my mum are going to be of her screaming and arguing with her over the need for her to take medication. I hate to think like this but I thought we only had days and weeks but now the months are passing I'm worried about ho long this is going to last for. I just feel trapped.

  • Hi,

    I just don't know where to start with this one, having terminal cancer doesn't give any of us the right or the excuse to treat our families in this way..At the risk of sounding judgemental, I think you are being subjected to emotional blackmail by your Mum which is making things worse for you both. You haven't said how old your Mum is, but she it sounds as if she is unwell mentally as well as physically. Having a terminal diagnosis is about as scary as it gets and this may have pushed your Mum over the edge. You both need help.

    First of all, your Mum should have been given a named nurse to act as her care coordinator when she left the hospital. One of two things has happened here. Either the hospital has failed in their duty of care to provide access to community nurses, MacMillan nurses etc or your Mum has refused their help without telling you. Why not contact the hospital (or ask your GP to do so) and check who Mum's named nurse coordinator is? Talk to the nurse and ask why Mum hasn't been given the promised help, explain in full detail your circumstances and threaten to make a formal complaint and go to the press and your MP unless the help she needs and is entitled to isn't immediately provided. 

    Talk to your Mum's GP and ensure he or she is fully aware of your situation - including the fact that she is screaming in pain most nights. The GP may well suggest that a mental health assessment of your Mum is appropriate in these circumstances. If this isn't suggested ask whether the GP thinks it would be appropriate. 

    Contact your local MacMillan service directly, or get your GP to do so. Under the current NHS set up their role varies from town to town depending on what services they have been commissioned to provide by your local clinical care group. Other agencies may have been commissioned to provide the sort of care provided by MacMillan elsewhere in the country, or the CCG may not have commissioned any services due to the austerity programme.

    Whatever the situation, it is worth checking - you may find that help has been offered but refeused by your Mum. My own elderly Mum was terrible at over-stating the amount of family support she had to avoid "having strangers traipsing through the house". Luckily when she had terminal cancer my Dad wasn't backwards in coming forwards and arranged a whole array of services through her GP to help him to support her. 

    I really hope you manage to improve the situation soon.

    Best wishes
    Dave

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  • Hi Indigogirl

    I just read your post and it really upset me.  I was lucky in a sense-although we knew that my Mum's cancer was untreateable, she actually only spent 4 nights in hospital quite unwell before she passed away.  I agree with Dave that it does sound a bit like emotional blackmail, although no one knows what's going on inside your Mum's head.

    I don't know too much about the practical help that you are entitled to, but please look after yourself.  It sounds like you have admitted already that you are in desperate need of help which is good.  I now you say your sister lives far away, but is there no way you could explain just how bad things are and get her to come and stay short term, at least until proper help filters through?  Or another family member?

    Take care, and I'll be thinking about you xx

  • Hi there and good morning.  I can well understand your predicament. At the very end she is you're mum!  Is the illness that has changed her. Still you must protect you're self from feeling abused.  If she is diabetic then this is difficult indeed as many diabetic people can go up and down with their sugars.  As you say - it's going to take time to get over the trauma of this time afterwards. I would consider doing a day or so a week at work - it would be good to be back at work again. Poor your mum - I am sure she is terrified. You must get the nursing help you need. Discuss this with your doctor - you must get nursing help.  Be wary of the doctors meds they can make you drowsy and you need your wits about you here. 

    I would come on here and let off steam.  We can support you at this terrible time

    Xx

    Steven 

  • hello indigogirl......Davek gives very good guidance......but it sounda like a lot of support is there, your mum is making a very difficult situation .....extremely difficult......my advice to you is....whilst doing what ever it is you have to do as difficult, frustrating and distressing at it is. keep going, do what you can, keep you well, eat well, sleep well....what areas of support can be improved ? could a macmillan nurse speak one to one with your mum, encourage a week respite care. the situation does need better managing from someone. whatever you endure over coming weeks....look after yourself...keep strong...bite your tongue. your mum is full of fear....... what seems like forever at the time, when you look back it wont seem that long. you can only do what you can do.......dont make yourself ill through this. in the whole scheme of things, this is a short period of intense time.....hope you can get the balance of support that you Need to get through this...that is key.

     

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    Hi Indigogirl and welcome to the forum although I am sorry to hear all that you and your Mum are going through. I cant really add much to the good advice that has been given already.  However, I would ask how your Mum's personality was prior to her becoming ill?   If her behaviour has changed drastically I would question if the disease has spread to her brain or if the morphine she is taking is having a very bad affect on her - I have been on it myself and I definitely hallucinated and became very paranoid.  These are maybe things that should be discussed with her consultant/GP.

    Also just wanted to add that Marie Curie offer overnight nursing so that the carer can get some sleep, as do social services in some areas depending on funding.  I live on the border of Suffolk and Norfolk - Suffolk do not offer this service but Norfolk do.  Your social worker should be able to advise you on this because you need to take good care of yourself too. 

    Good luck and keep posting when you need x

  • Thank you for all your kind words. With my limited experience of dealing with this situation its helpful to know others feel i should be getting more help from health professionals.and my expectations aren't way off the mark.

    It has been a difficult few days as mum has been constantly sick. I admit i lost it with her after she refused her laxative drink again. I guess i will have to wait until she gets admitted to hospital again with another infection / constipation before i get a break. It is such a shame but people do keep telling me it is her choice so i try and reassure myself i can't do anything more.