Why do they want to increase my dad's appetite?

Hello, I joined this forum a couple of weeks ago for support as my dad is now terminal after 15 years of prostate cancer treatment. He is at home at the moment with pain control medicine, including liquid morphine. His appetite is fairly non existent now and he has lost a lot of weight which is horrible to see. He is definitely on the way down and sleeps a lot and watches TV when he's not snoozing. I am confused as to why the palliative nurse has given him tablets to increase his appetite and told him to cut back on the morphine. Surely him not eating much is natural at this stage (my mum says he is still drinking) and why can't he take as much morphine as he feels he needs? He is definitely compus mentus and deailing with it very bravely (in front of me anyway). I feel that he should be able to do as he pleases now but he's quite old fashioned and will generally do as he's told by medics. He is also suffering from diarreah and/or constpiation due to the morphine I think... Any advice would be good. Thank you.

  • Dear Kessygirl,

    Thank you for your post. You explained about your dad’s situation. You asked about your dad’s new tablets to increase his appetite.

    Steroids are often used as part of overall symptom control management. The aim of these tablets is to make someone feel better overall in themselves, and part of this may be that they feel like eating a little. This is to enhance an individual’s quality of life as even eating a small amount can be a pleasurable experience. So there isn’t a direct drive to get someone to eat more as the aim is to help make someone feel better in themselves.

     

    Regarding your question about morphine, I assume that the palliative care nurse has assessed his current pain levels and thinks that a small reduction in morphine could be achieved. This may mean that your dad is then less drowsy, or has less bowel side effects whilst being able to maintain good pain control. This advice can be adjusted each time the patient is re-assessed by a nurse or doctor.

    I hope that this reply has been helpful.

    Best wishes

    Vanda

    Cancer Information Nurse

    Cancer Research UK

    Angel Building

    407 St John Street

    London

    EC1V 4AD

    Freephone: 0808 800 4040

     

  • Thank you for your reply Vanda, you have helped me to understand the reasons for how his care is being handled. I haven't met with the palliative nurses yet and my mum and dad never really question what they are being advised to do or take - they just roll with it, which is a credit to them really, I'm far too much of a busybody and want to know why about everything. I think it's because I feel so out of control of the situation that I need to understand what's being done and why. I'm working on letting go of the control thing, because when I'm able to I feel better! Thanks again.

  • Hi Kessygirl

    I have just caught up with your post and would just like to say that your Dad is going through much what my hubby did during his journey with cancer.  He spent many hours dozing and watching tv and had little appetite or interest in food in general.  He was also on morphine tablets and then had it in liquid form (the latter being easier to adjust dosage as and when necessary we were told by his palliative care team).  Like yourself I 'needed to know' what was happening as it helped me cope day to day (hubby preferred to take it as it came and not talk about it) but if  your Dad is happy for his 'team' to talk to you about things he can tell them and then you can ask them any questions if it helps.  My husband had steriods a couple of times during his treatment to try and help with appetite and also improve the quality of the life he was leading (we were going away for a long weekend in the first instance and he did enjoy the hotel food). Its not easy to see decline in loved ones but being kept comfortable and pain free which is what our palliative care/district nurses achieved with my hubby brought a certain amount of help. Best regards Jules54

  • I think you should go with your instincts, keep him comfortable with morphine and don't worry about his appetite. There are energy drinks he can have which contain everything he needs. If he's constipated it's important to give him Movical, as if the small intestine can burst, causing instant death. My husband only had one bout of diarreah but it was awful & took all his dignity away. Put a waterproof pad on the bed. These are easy to clean & can be bought on EBay. This is all the advice I can give as we are helpless against cancer. My husband was told to take all the morphine he needed in the form of patches. As he grew worse, the patches were stronger. I also had liquid morphine called Oxynorm & could top him up with this if he was having a bad day. I used a lot of this towards the end. If you are unsure contact Macmillan & I would also recommend counselling.