Father- in- law hasn't given condolences over my mums death

Hi all. This is a bit of a weird post, and I apologize if it's a bit all over the place.

My mum died in May, and I am still in a lot of pain. This is natural, of course. Most of my close friends have been supportive, and I am very grateful for that.

Here's the weird bit. My boyfriend never told his father that my mum died. They aren't close, and the only time he sees him is at family parties where it would be inappropriate to annnounce such things. It obviously shouldn't have been my responsibility to notify them.

Well, he called his dad the other day to wish him a happy birthday and when his dad asked how he was, he mentioned that things had been difficult since my mum had passed. He said "oh? When did she pass then?" He said "May". He said "Oh, that reminds me of one of my friends going through some health problems" bla bla bla. He literally launched into a big long thing about his friend. He didn't say "sorry" or "please send my regards". Nothing. He offered absolutely nothing. 

This is someone that I have known for 17 years. I see him several times a year at various family functions, and he's stayed over at ours as well. 

A couple of days before my mum fell ill we were actually at his house. My boyfriend was telling him about my mums struggles and how worried we were about her (we didn't know that literally two days later she would end up in ICU and that she would die 10 days later - but obviously, even then we were very concerned for her) and he couldn't have looked less interested if he tried. He was actually looking out the window or something and more interested in a little bird that had landed on his porch than what my boyfriend was telling him. I watched him closely, and realized he was completely uninterested. I almost felt like saying to my boyfriend "why are you bothering? Are you looking at his face? He doesn't want to know". The moment that there was a pause in the conversation, he took it to talk about himself and change the subject. He offered absolutely no sympathy.

I was a bit surprised that my boyfriend didn't notify him of her death. And I was also a bit surprised that he hadn't heard about it through "the grapevine". 

How am I supposed to even interact with him again, when he clearly does not care about me even a little bit? I'm trying not to be hurt by this. But my father died in September 2017, and then my mum in May this year. So now I have no parents. It's actually more painful to be around someone who *should* be somewhat like a parent, than to not have anyone at all. 

  • Thank you Kkkery2. I'm sorry that you have also been through something similar. Losing a friend of 30 years must have been so painful. When my mum passed I posted here asking what to expect from friends, and everyone was very supportive. Basically, it seems like when we lose someone we become much more tuned in to who our real friends are. That can be so painful :( 

    I also realized that one of my "friends" wasn't actually a friend. She didn't reach out at all, and anyone who knows me at all knows how close I was to my mum and how devastated I was at her passing. I still have to hang out with this person from time to time, and it puts me a bit on edge. Much in the same way I'll feel about my boyfriends dad, I'm sure. 

     

  • I guess for me, I am ok hugging people I am close to and/or people I actually like. I find it really uncomfortable when I have to do the big production of hugging and kissing an entire party of people.

    One time when I was in college, our whole class went round to one of our classmates house and we had to wait outside in the hallway of her apartment building so that we could go inside one at a time and give her mother a kiss on the cheek (none of us had ever even met the woman!) I was furious and mortified!!! I practically had a panic attack in that hallway that day - and I've never been the same since LOL

  •  Hi.  I am so sorry for all you have been through and now mum.  It’s a rotten time and I wish I could give you a big hug. 

    You’re focusing on somebody who does not deserve your time.  Clearly not a nice person. You sound just the opposite.  It’s outside your control so please work at letting it go.  People do let you down but at a time like this it’s awful that they can’t make the effort to consider your feelings. Put them outside your life as much as possible.  I had to do something similar and it does take a bit of effort but it’s worth it.  

    Try this.  I had PTSD and my psychologist gave me a technique.  Select a happy moment.  Get comfortable recalling it and relishing it.   Storing it away each time so it stays fresh.  So when the nasty thoughts and memories come to mind, replace it with your selected happy time thoughts.  Mine was lying under apple trees in dappled sun with grandkids playing in paddling pool   

    It sounds simplistic but try it and eventually you’ll be in control.  I had really serious PTSD, and poo pooed all this mumbo jumbo.  But I was wrong.  

    Read your responses through again.  They are wonderful.  

    Don’t bother with those that hurt and upset you; especially now.  Be selective and be happy. You will be happy again and stronger I’m sure.  Good luck.  

  • Lol ike that you have sence of humour i know what you mean ime better than i used to be my two elder sisters did one of these seminars to learn to hugg hugg years ago ur val said they they paid out 150 quid to give someone a cuddle lol and they always did after i steam in and get it over with now my family are the only ones that take an hour to say goodby theres 7 siblings so like you we queued up because we had to but nice in a way my partner liz was very cuddley it was nice well one thing dave got the conversations going with his hug remark  . Regards  paul .and big huggs to all 

  • Thank you for those kind words Sue999. I absolutely loved your description of your happy place, it made me happy just picturing it! My happy place is floating on my tube in the waves of the ocean. Bliss. 

    I do have to be especially careful not to focus too much on the negatives of my boyfriends dad, as it's his dad after all. 

  • Dearest Serapin8

    I've spent 2 days choking on tears literally in a grief attack. . And I read this story of you having HAVING to kiss a dying woman you'd never met and truly it made me crack up laughing. . Something I've not done in over 3 months.  You poor thing. . And the poor woman. . My mum would have been mortified had I done that to her. . Such a funny story in such tragic times. . Thank you for sharing.  Big love x

  • I'm sorry you have been in so much pain for the last two days :( I'm pleased my little story gave you a bit of a chuckle though. I'm glad I can laugh about it now too.  My uncle once told me that I whacked him in the head when I went to greet him once. He later said "I thought you'd be happy to see me, instead you hit me in the head" lol That's me. Flailing about in horror as the hugs and kisses come my way. He's lucky he didn't lose an eye!

  • I don't think it necessarily means a person is a horrible/bad person if they don't pass on condolences. Some people just don't handle situations like that well. Myself personally included. Whenever somebody loses a close relative at work etc, I always ask how they are going, but I never offer condolences, I just don't see the point. It's far more important to me to make sure they are ok (as much as they can be). Me saying "I'm sorry your such and such died" isn't going to bring the person back and is only going to remind the person that someone they love has died. Some people might not even ask if you are doing ok, again it might be that they just don’t want handle it. It might not even being something they are self aware of. I'm not saying that isn't a bit selfish.

    I have never lost a parent, so I can't sit here and say I would feel differently to you. But I have come to accept, that most of the world doesn't care, not in a malicious way, but because they have their own life and own problems. Once I accepted that, I became a happier person. Being diagnosed with cancer or any other big life event such as losing a parent I would assume really shows you who your friends really are. When I was diagnosed, there were people I knew that never contacted me to ask how I was doing, and I knew they knew I was ill, they didn't visit me in hospital etc. Do I think they are horrible people, no, I just think they don't want to deal with it, they would rather pretend it isn't something that is happening. And to be honest, before I had cancer, I did the same thing. That being said, there are lots of people that can handle it, lots of people that do want to help fully. Life is too short to worry about other people and their behaviour, whatever the cause of it. I hope you are doing ok for what its worth. 

     

    All the best.

  • Wise words ,very wise words. xx

     

  • Theres a saying everyones an expert at dealing with grief till they have to go through it themselves it is something we need dont know why your right life goes on but you dont feel that way it feels like its stopped we dont react in a logical way because there is no logic to death iicertainly hope your doing ok with cancer treatment  regards paul