New here and struggling. Looking for some pointers please.

Hi,

This is my first post.

My Dad (82) diagnosed with lung cancer at the end of 2019. He had SABRE treatment which was ineffective. He was told that because of his age/health nothing more to be done. He lives on his own. I am 5 hours away. No other family. No friends ,visitors or callers at all where he is - in fact all are positively discouraged by him.

Sadly Dad refuses to have anything to do with anyone.

Dad has actively (he told me to speak to them and tell them not to contact him) refused any engagement with the local hospice service (he has lost two wives to cancer so this is a very sensitive issue for him) and appears to have no appetite for engagement with his GP "I can't bother them - they are busy because of Covid".

I suspect this is a case of "what I don't know cant hurt me" as much as anything else.

Unfortunatley he is becomining increasingly confused and delusional - he will call me 4 or 5 times a day at all hours thinking that there are people living in his house, there are children are running round and his late wife is cooking tea for him downstairs etc.  

There is no one there but to Dad they are real.

The last time he took the phone to the kitchen to let me speak to "the cook" and then, after a while, he hung up.

Dad has always been an irracible soul so when I attempt to gently correct him  I promptly get both barrels as being a "clever *** who is just trying to trip him up" ! 

Clever *** I can live with.

My question is what have other people's experiences been.

I am juggling work so as to try and not leave him on his own for more than a few days each week.   

It seems that when he does not have any interaction with other people his mental health deteriorates.

Needless to say he refuses point blank to come and live (or even spend time) with me at my home.  

Dad has lost significant wieght. He is 6 foot now less than 9 stone.

He spends most time in bed.

Very fatigued and wasted.

He has no interest in food but will happily eat something if it is presented to him. 

He is often confused as to family and those family members who have passed believing dead family are still present and thos still present have already passed.

I am at my wits end and just don't know what to do.

In the absence of any interaction by Dad with the medicial profession I am a a loss to know where his diagnosis is, what the future holds or what I should be doing.

Dad has recently suffered a significant fall and has sustained a large head wound which (naturally) he refused point blank to seek treatment for.

In fact he was reviewed by am ambulance crew who "happened to be passing" after he locked himself out of the house  and the local "village friends " were assisting in getting him back in.

I don't know where/how/far/if the cancer has spread or what I can be doing to help Dad for the best.

Dad seems to be becoming more and more unreasonable and confrontational ,and seems to be withdrawing from the world aand retreating into his own strange "reality".

I am at a loss to know what to do - hence my reaching out to this forum.

My apologies for the length of this post.

I do realise there is no "simple answer" and with this dreadful disease all outcomes are different but any thoughts, pointers or  experiences from the wisdom on this board would be very much appreciated. 

Thank you in advance.

Pete

 

 

  

  • Hi there and welcome ...

    I'm so so sorry your going through this heartbraking time at the moment.... it must feel like your banging your head on a wall and getting nowhere ...

    Now I'm no expert but I seem to remember once someone is deemed to be a danger to their selfs or others , then you can get help for your dad, though this covid has made everything even harder ... but it's eased now so hopefully you can get him the help he needs ... 

    Get Drs, social service, even call Marie Currie and they may have the advice you need as they are there for the one with the diagnosis and their families ... now your dad is seeing those that have passed means he is being effected and lots do go through that when it effects the brain and at the end of the day it can be comforting to your dad so don't panic or tell him it's not so... to him  it  is ... 

    Please reach out , don't go through this alone ... even if he doesn't want help, there will come a point where he has to accept it ... my heart goes out to you.... hold on in there ... Chrissie x x 

     

  • Hello Pete, 

    Chriss has given you some excellent advice and I do agree with her that it would be a good idea to talk to someone about this and get in touch with the organizations she suggested. Marie Curie would be a good one to contact and you can find more details here. They have a helpline too you could ring. It must be so distressing for you to be so far away knowing that your dad is keeping his distance from everyone and is refusing to seek help. What is concerning too is that he is seeing all these things that are not really there and that he has fallen recently and refused to seek help for that too. I think it would be worth giving his medical team a call, or if you are having trouble getting in touch with his specialist, perhaps get in touch with his local surgery and talk to his doctor explaining the situation in detail as you have done here in this post. Mention that your dad is not looking after himself properly, that he doesn't seem interested in eating too much and that he has been telling you about these visions of people who are not really there. A doctor will be able to tell you more about what help is available to you in a situation like this when a loved one is refusing to get help but clearly needs it. I know you mentioned he was seen by an ambulance which happened to be passing by after his fall but it would be good if someone could check his head wound and if someone could check on him on a regular basis and make sure he is ok. Is there one of his village friends who could do that maybe and tell you how he is doing?

    It must be incredibly stressful for you and I can imagine you are feeling totally powerless especially as he sounds so resistant to getting any form of help. So do talk to his doctor if you can tomorrow and see what they suggest in terms of support that might be available to him. Perhaps there is something they will advise which hopefully your dad will agree to. Make sure to mention to the doctor that he is spending a lot of time in bed, has lost interest in food and is having those terrible hallucinations. 

    I hope you get to talk to someone about this soon Pete. You did well to come here and reach out about this. We're all here for you anytime you need to offload.   

    Best wishes, 

    Lucie, Cancer Chat Moderator

  • Thank you both for your replies - that is sound advice and very much appreciated.

    Kind regards

    Pete