Very worried about my mum

A bit of background about me and my mum before I start. My mum had me later on, when she was 41. I am now 20 (21 in 2 weeks!). She was first diagnosed with stage 3 ovarian cancer in early 2016, and had chemo and debulking surgery (full hysterectomy, ovary/fallopian removal etc, omentum removal). from late 2017 onwards she was doing ok and working towards the remission stage. I decided to have a gap year as I would not have felt right going to uni so soon after my mum being so ill. I went to uni in October 2018 and everything seemed ok. Then my mum in January 2019 got diagnosed again - this time the cancer had attached to the spleen, with two tumours in the original area. This was classed as an advanced cancer due to it spreading fairly far from the original cancer site.

she began an IV chemo with a different tablet form to take at home which was very gruelling. The doctor said that she was the first female patient in the hospital to be on this regime. Unfortunately the scans showed the chemo had only maintained the cancer in its current state and not shrunk it. He looked into immunotherapy - not an option. In the meantime, she was on a few weeks break from her chemo, January 2020. She became ill and was admitted to hospital, where they found an abscess had developed on her spleen and had burst - she was in for 3 weeks and had to have the fluid drained off, and v strong antibiotics for the infection, for 6 weeks. the antibiotics had gastro side effects, combined with her other meds she is very sleepy, not active, not able to eat etc. this is not like her as she is usually very strong and the oncologist has said she wouldn't have been able to have that treatment if she was not strong. He said that many people would not have survived that infection.

Recently she's been vomiting 12 hours after eating, not digesting food properly, she has a syringe driver fitted with morphine, antisickness etc, which seems to be helping a little bit.

I am very worried that she has had her scan cancelled twice now due to the virus meaning appointments are being cut back. she needs the scan to see if the antibiotics have worked and to see what, if anything can happen next. Fortunately I am at home for a good while now due to uni being shut due to the virus. I am worried that this delay will be fatal to my mum and there is nothing anyone can do. Being young I am worried about what will happen if my mum deteriorates or worse - I am already noticing deteriorations day by day and dread what is to come. I know it is not all about me but little things are creeping in which give me a horrible feeling. We get nurses from the hospice coming and I straight away thought hospices are for terminally ill, but they said it is not the case and they are specialists in pain management.

I literally have no friends - my age group do not really relate to, or understand, what I am going through, and I can't relate to their "problems". We have a large extended family but a lot of them have just forgotten about us, don't keep in touch don't bother with us, it's like they are shunning us because my mum is ill. This has been the case since her first diagnosis. This also worries me as to what may happen in the future - my dad needs the support as much as me.

My mum and I have an unusually close relationship, more so than anyone I know. I am an only child - her and my dad tried for 9 years before I was eventually born, and they love me deeply. I have never met a kinder, more loving and caring woman than my mum, and don't think I would be able to cope without her. I know it is a trivial point too but I don't know what will happen about uni in the future either.

Would love to hear if anyone has got any helpful advice or stories that they can share, although would like to stay positive where possible!

Hope everyone is keeping safe in these worrying times,

Olivia x

  • Hi Olivia,

    I’m really sorry to hear your mum is going through this terrible time. I just lost my dad31st January to pancreatic cancer 2 weeks after being diagnosed. I really miss him so much. We are a very close family. 

    Can I ask what colour the vomit is? 

     

    Charlotte xx

  • I'm so sorry for your loss. My thoughts are with your family at this really sad time. That is terrible to have such a short time to process it all, I hear pancreatic is notoriously bad :(

    Thank you. It was strange because she had a small appetite to begin with, and just had small snacks throughout the day, her last being at 6.30pm, then at 5.30am the next morning, she brought everything back? So all that food had not passed her stomach? Doctors have confirmed that the tumour is pressing onto her bowel meaning food is unable to digest properly - she also has really bad excess gas. When she was sick it is just her stomach contents, but on a bad day it would be like bile, so greeny-brown. :(

  • Thank you for your condolences. My dad experienced the exactly the same symptoms excess gas and vomiting feeling sick, little appetite and when he did eat it wouldn’t digest and he was vomit it back up and like your doctor said due to the compression of the tumour. When he would vomit it would the contents of his stomach but after a few days he couldn’t eat at all and was vomiting constantly and it was brown/black...we asked the palliative care nurses when they would visit why is it this colour but they didn’t give a reason (maybe they knew but didn’t want to say) one of the palliative care nurses advised my dad go into a hospice to have his ascites drained from his stomach (build up of fluid on stomach) but I think that was her nice way of getting him in the hospice to get around the clock care. When he was admitted to the hospice the doctor who examined him told us that the brown/black vomit was from an internal bleed. Sadly he died the sameness day he was taken to the hospice.

    Im not a doctor but all I can’t do is tell you from my dads experience...When the vomit changed colour and was brown/black that was a bleed...so I would maybe call the palliative team get advice about your mums vomiting and ask could it be an internal bleed.

    I hope you can get some answers.

    Anytime you want a chat I’m her here

    sending big hugs

    charlotte xxxx

  • Hi Olivia,

    What a hard and harrowing situation you are in and I completely understand what you are going through. My mum is ill in hospital

    with what first was diagnosed as pneumonia but when Chest Cat scan was done the doctor found these awful liver tumors which revealed late stage colorectal cancer. She had pneumonia but that went and she is still breathless on oxygen etc she had to have her lungs drained as well they said no cancer in lungs but the liver cancers are causing trouble. Today they told me she isn't eating well and feels sick. I am at a loss as what to do for her I can't visit and it breaks my heart I think she's losing weight and is skinny and unhealthy looking. Mum and I are so close I am an only child as well I think it's so much harder for us. I'm older than you though. 35 yet I feel like a lost child again -cancer destroys lives and now it is going to destroy mine all over again I've lost 4 family members to it and one survived 5 in all have had it,. I would be so empty if my mum didn't survive this I'd be destroyed but I would have to be strong for my own daughter and be the strong wise mum that my mum has been. My heart goes out to you and your dad. Please take care of yourself and each other in these awful times. 

  • Oh no! I'm so sorry to hear that. It feels like so many people are suffering terribly. I hope your mum gets some hopeful news and that you are able to support each other through all the uncertainty. It is a horrible limbo to be in.

    I am wondering, how have you found the ability for your mum to have scans etc whilst she has been in hospital? My mum went into a&e with her symptoms on Monday and they still would not do a scan for her, even though they suspected she had a bowel blockage. The doctor said there are not enough radiographers to do scans due to self-isolating? But surely they must not all be off work? And how are they prioritising patients? It makes me wonder if maybe they are just doing scans for inpatients? 

  • the oncologist has just phoned my mum, and basically confirmed that she is not going to recover from cancer, and he won't be giving her any more treatment. He said the aim is just to make her more comfortable which may involve her going into a hospice. I am so heartbroken beyond words and have cried all day. I don't want her to see I am upset, although it cannot be helped, I want to make sure the next however long is the most precious time. Its difficult too as we don't know how long that will be. I want to support my dad but he is being strong for me. It's so so awful

  • thank you Charlotte. After a long period of uncertainty, the oncologist today confirmed that my mum is terminal and will not recover. We are devastated and heartbroken. I have been aware for a long time this may happen but I just feel immensely sad.

  • Ahhh Olivia, I’m so sorry to hear this. By what you was telling me going by my bad experience with the same symptoms I knew this wasn’t going to be a lot that could be done sadly....you poor thing I really do feel for you. My dad hasn’t been gone for 2 months now and it’s my birthday tomorrow. My first birthday without my dad. Who always wrote the best birthday cards with a joke inside and a picture. 

    You have to be really strong now my lovely and tell your mum everything you have ever held back from telling her tell her how much you love her...I know it’s really painful we all feel robbed of a dad and husband. My mum is self isolating on her own just when she’s needs family around her and it’s heartbreaking...my mum and dad has been married for 51 years. Together when they were 18 and he died at the age of 70. If you need a chat you can always call me I don’t mind 

    charlotte xx

  • Hi Olivia

    I am so sorry that it's bad news for you and your precious mum -same here tbh I went to the hospital today and the nurse was ever so sweet she let me see mum and hold her hand and we both cried. Mum is so stunned and shocked that she has cancer she has always been so healthy but we think smoking may have contributed to my mums cancer as it has been stated that it isn't bowel cancer, it's oesophageal with liver mets. I was mad at them for misdiagnosing her. There is plenty of treatment that mum could have but they can't cure it.. because they can't operate as she has had several infections that have weakened her heart. I'm in bits.  I'm at a loss as what to do. Mum hasn't had a proper prognosis but they said she'd live longer with an operation than if none but they can't operate. Mum seemed weaker today and a shadow of who she was only a month ago. This disease is so insidious and disgusting.
     

    Sending love and strength to you and your family.