Immunotherapy 2 year limit

Hi everyone, my partner was diagnosed with stage 4 non small cell lung cancer in october 2015, she received chemotherapy initially, which didn't agree with her and after 2 rounds, was sent home for palliative care, she was given 3-4 months. Fortunately we got a second opinion and found a consultant who enrolled her on an early access to medicine scheme for immunotherapy (nivolumab) which she started in March 2016. She received 2 years on this scheme, and from March 2018, she has received her treatment via the cancer drug fund. At a recent consultation we were told that you can only be funded for a maximum of 2 years by the cdf which means that her treatment is due to end in March 2020. This news came as a big shock as my partner has responded to treatment excellently and I have been told by her consultant that her response is in the top 30% in the UK. Not only were we told that her treatment is being stopped, but the worst news of all is that in the future if her disease progresses there is no way she can have nivolumab again, even though it has proven to work for her before. I find this position by nhs England and the cdf absolutely unbelievable, she will basically be denied life saving treatment because she has effectively used up her quota. Since hearing this news I have been trying to find other people in a similar position so we can find a way of getting these life saving drugs prescribed as long as needed, and not as long as budgets permit. I think it is not only unethical but also completely immoral to deny patients medication that is clearly working for them and something must be done to change this. If anyone has any information on how to get continued funding for immunotherapy for patients please send a reply.

Many thanks 

  • Hi Folks

    Thought I'd give an update since finishing my 2 years of Keytruda treatment.

    Had my last treatment 23rd December, followed by a scan 22nd January this year. I really wasn't expecting there to be any change as scan was quite soon after treatment and I was right, there was no change I'm pleased to say, both tumours on right lung stable with lymph nodes barely noticable.

     I was back a week ago for my three monthly scan when I received the news that they've now found a 6mm nodule on my left lung. Been told not to worry it could be just an inflamation which could have disappeared by next scan which is booked for July. Let them know if I've any pain, weight loss etc otherwise just to keep next app for scan and followup.

    I am so scared, worried as I never had any symptoms at all until pain before being diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer in  December 2 years ago. They have mentioned radio therapy if it is cancer but nothing about being able to back on keytruda. I don't know what to do! Should I just wait until July for another scan or should I maybe ask to go privately for one before then?

    Has anyone any advice please. 

     

  • So your tumours are stable and lymph nodes are happy? That's great.

    I think this means you can consider yourself potentially at stage 1 - nowhere near the stage 4 you used to be and only "potentially" at that. Also, 6mm sounds really tiny - small enough for accurate measurements to be difficult as errors of observation will be of a similar order. I'm in the same place myself, it's just that I'm in "if it ain't broke..." territory so the keytruda keeps on coming. I did ask what would happen to me if I couldn't afford the premiums any more and the conversation turned to radiotherapy, possibly cyberknife.

    I'm no doctor, but stage 1 NSCLC has high survival rates and can be removed by radiotherapy to leave all clear. If that's your worst case scenario it doesn't sound so bad. Fingers crossed it's only a temporary inflammation - at least you know they'll be keeping their eyes peeled for it and they'll have a plan for whatever happens.

    kind regards,
    Steve

     

  • Hi

    Thank you for your positive reply.

    I'm going to try to take on board your comments and try to look forward with a more positive attitude.

  • Hi my Dad has stage 3 non small cell lung cancer and chemo is unfortantly not working ! I have been looking i to the gene's / mutations and I am going to speak to his consultant regarding immunotherapy . Fo you know what sort of lung cancer your Gran has , any mutations and which immunotherapy she was on ? 

    I am so sorry to hear about your Gran and surely if she has not had the full 2 years of the immunotherapy she should be entitiled to finish the 2 years .

    I can not bear how the NHS / goverment are putting a price on peoples lives like this ! A horrid and evil disease its so heartbreaking watching the people you love the most in the world go through this ! 

    xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

  • Hi Steve ,

     

    Are you on sotorasib for kras + nsclc ? my Dad has this and chemo not worked cancer has grown so starting him on the sotorasib . 

     

    Thank you 

    xxxxx

  • Hi ,

     

    Sorry sorry to hear your wifes immunotherapy has been stopped , do you know if her nsclc was kras + ? my Dad has stage 3 kras + nsclc and chemo is not working so desperate to find alternatives for him , but his cancer is kras + and I know only certain things will help .

     

    Thank you xx 

  • Hi Mich,

    Sorry I don't have my file of letters and reports to hand (I keep everything, but by now its rather bulky) for my full-on detailed diagnosis.

    I'm not on Sotorasib, however, I'm on Pembrolizumab for NSCLC - tested 80% suitable, which seems to be enough.

    I've not tried to second guess my consultants, they seem way ahead of me on things even though I track The Lancet, Journal of Clinical Oncology, National (USA) Cancer Institute, Immuno-Oncology News, etc. to keep up to date.

    Kind regards
    Steve

  • Thank you for your reply Steve ,

     

    The oncologist is going to start my Dad on Sotorasib which is for Kras mutation nsclc , its a newish targeted drug for that mutaion , they said if that does not work they will try the Pembrolizumab . That is why I was intrested if you had the Kras mutation as the Pembrolizumab has clearly worked well for you which is amazing .

    I never realised that cancer and the different types of cancer and the mutations etc where so complicated and that is after spending over 10 years nursing in palliative care ! 

    Kind regards 

    Michelle 

  • I am about to have my last treatment which is Pembrolizumab I have been on this treatment every 6 weeks for 2 years, my health has been amazing on this treatment no side effects what so ever.  When I started this treatment I was not told it would be for only 2 years.  My cancer is in my chest wall.  It hasn't moved since being on the treatment.  I had 10 radiotherapy sessions and 4 chemotherapy, then started on the Pembrolizumab.  I did ask the question what if the cancer starts to travel again and was told I could try another chemotherapy.  I am feeling a little anxious about finishing the treatment.  I have been told I will have regular ct scans as I have been doing for the last 2 years.

  • I've just read the posts from 2020 on this subject of two years only for immunotherapy.  I have just finished 2 years of penbrolizumab and although not a cure I have remained stable and been able to lead a fairly normal life because of it. I have now also been told that my treatment is finished and my immune system should be able to take over.  Trouble is 12 weeks down the line I feel that I am going downhill and many of my symptons returning.  I am due a CT scan in the next couple of weeks so will soon know the outcme. I was wondering, though, if any of the people in this link have any further information that I could use when seeing my Oncologist.