Secondary Liver Cancer

Hi everyone,

i was hoping to get some help to a few questions I have . Will apologise now as I’m not sure I’ll keep this short and sweet because I’m just overcoming news of a new secondary cancer in my mums liver - received yesterday. 

My mum had breast cancer around 7 years ago. Was given the all clear at 5 years. In around 5.5yrs from first diagnosis she developed a brain tumour that wasn’t misdiagnosed and left untreated for too long even though we went private to try to find the cause and solution for numbness she was experiencing in her face. Eventually as the surgeons just didn’t get the operation done in time the tumour burst and bled to the brain. Five days after an emergency operation (which I felt like I had to fight for) we were told it was cancer - a secondary spread of breast cancer to the brain. 

Was as such a shock after we’d been told the type of tumour was nothing to worry about and was quite ‘common’. Just wish I’d have known to do more, get a second opinion etc. But I guess with going private I presumed we were getting her good care. 

It was a long road to recover from the trauma to her brain. She lives alone and it’s really taken it’s toll on her and me and my brother. But my god she’s been strong. 

She had radiotherapy to the brain brain and it shrunk what was left over from the operation. Scans 3 months later then showed tumours in her liver and her womb. We were devastated. We began intravenous chemo a week later. I went with her once a week for 18 weeks. Scans after that showed the chemo was working and shrinking the 7 tumours she had. We came off the chemo on the middle of jan and have spent 2 months on hormone tablets. Yesterday we got New scan results. 2 months on from last. They showed the original tumours in the liver had stayed the same size since the chemo. But that there were several other, new tumours in the liver now. Some attached to the old tumours and others in new areas of the liver.

we're just devastated that it’s found a new way to grow. The oncologist said to look at months in terms of life expectancy now. And to begin to prepare for the eventual ‘end of life’. I just don’t really understand what to prepare for and how long to expect her to have. We’re beginning chemo again in 3 weeks time using the tablet form, two tablets a day for 2 weeks with a one week break. Then we scan and see I guess. 

Does anyone know what the chanches are of her nee cancer reaponding to chemo if it’s just grown inspite of chemo? And had anyone been on the tablet form of chemo and can give me more of an idea about what to expect in terms of side effects vs the last round we did? I’m presuming as the tablets are everyday that it’s going to be more intense? 

Also has anyone dealt with with a loved one coming to end of life with liver cancer and what happens?  

Thank you for any help or advice I can get on here. I’m just feel like we’ve been on such a journey so far and I’ve always found a way to pick us back up and keep going and sometimes forget that we’re living on borrowed time. But after yesterday’s news I’m just pretty lost with it all. 

  • Hi Lkeir

    I'm so sorry to hear of the progress of your Mum's cancer. It has been unrelenting for you and her.

    I'm unable to answer many of your questions except that I nursed my Dad during his last days with cancer that had rapidly spread to his liver. Back then I believe pain relief was not like today. It was a district nurse occasionally calling to administer morphine but despite that he had a good last week and all the family were around for support.  Back then surgery was not as targeted and probably now he would have been offered some as the liver can recover from serious dissection.

    There may be answers to what to expect from chemo but many are the ways of how people respond. Life expectancy estimates by doctors is I think a very uncertain art summed up by the 'surprise question'. A majority of patients live longer than expected I believe.

    Apologies for not giving you much feedback. You have travelled this journey so well despite all these setbacks and I'm sure you will find the strength to continue.

    Kind regards

    David

  • Hi David,

    thank you so much for the reply, it felt like a shot in the dark to put a post out there but it helped and now you have helped too by responding. Thank you so much. What you went through sounds so hard but it sounds like you managed it with such grace. 

    Could i I ask how old you dad was and how long he managed since the initial diagnosis? I’m sorry if that’s too much, of course don’t respond if it is, I’m just trying to get a feel for as many experiences as I can, is a strange way I guess, but feels like it might help me a little. 

    Thank you so much.

  • Hi Lkier

    My Dad was 58 I think when he was diagnosed but it could have been much earlier as he didn't confide at the beginning.  He died at 60. I was 22 and just doing my finals. I didn't do well initially but under the circumstances was given interviews and upgraded. This was way back in 69 when treatment was poorer and all he received was surgery for the cancer in his bowel.  When I made it to my 60th I thought how lucky am I.

    Don't go thinking the speed of my dad's decline any way will reflect how cancer progresses today. We tended just to accept it then.

    My best wishes for your mum's treatment.

    David