Moving from NHS England to Scotland

Hi

my mum currently lives in London and I’m in Scotland, currently waiting on a biopsy on NHS England.  If a positive diagnosis is received I would need her to move in with me in Scotland, but I’m worried will this slow down her treatment?

anyone know how I would even go about this.

any advice would be much appreciated 

  • Thank for sharing this knowledge with me, I genuinely really appreciate it.  So would the CHI number be issued from her new practice in Scotland?  Some of this appears like a silly question what is CHI an abbreviation of?

    im trying hard to support my mum from Scotland but its not easy she’s incredibly fragile at the moment both mentally and physically.

  • Sorry just Google it 

    community health index 

  • Yeah, it's just a fancy term for an NHS number. Usually things tend to be quick when doing it within the same nation because the systems are all connected, and everything about you can be found just by putting your CHI/NHS number in the system. But you can't do that with Scotland and England. When you work in the admin side of the NHS, you quickly learn there is absolutely nothing "national" about the National health service. It can even differ greatly between postcodes, as some people find out too. It was one of the services that were fully devolved to Scotland, and that's the reason for it.

    Other have said it took them months. The number one reason it can take months is because when we request stuff from an English health board, they send it up via a disc. We can't access that data, so we have to put in a new request, and this can repeat a few times. It's a joke really. I'm sure the English have the same issues with us doing the same.

  • Difficult times. Seems like it might make sense to get biopsy done and histology report as quickly as poss and where she is likely to be quicker as a transfer will lose some time. 

     Good luck . Your mum is lucky to have you. 

  • Sorry for spamming your thread. i keep thinking of other stuff. What you could try is asking your mum's GP practice and hospital for copies of the records. There will be a charge for this because they won't give you originals (not that they can nowadays as everything is digitalised), it will be copies. The reason for this, your medical records aren't your property. Here in Scotland they belong to the Scottish Office, but we do tend to allow copies or extracts to be released directly to the patient if they cover the copying/printing costs if you're in a pinch.

    As for will your mum get given a CHI number, yeah, when she registers and gets put on the system, she will be given a CHI number. Register her at your GP because GP are instructed to keep families together. Otherwise, some areas need us to assign patients because a lot of GP practices have closed their lists to new patients on a walk in basis.

  • Hi. That's the advice I gave. NHS England will provide all hospital records ,scans reports, histology reports even operation notes, admission records and hospital stay notes and blood tests even consultant and MDT notes Relatively small cost

     GP record is free.

  • Spam away, the more info I have the better!!!

  • Amazing I don’t mind paying I just need them to get their finger out with this biopsy n then I can kick off getting her registered with my GP and try and get things moving.

    God you guys really know your stuff I’ve just had to google histology report.  

    Thank you both from the bottom of my heart, I haven’t had time to actually process what is happening, I’m literally just reacting to how slow things are moving to try n get my mum home. 

  • Again you're very welcome. Sometimes you have to get a bit ' firm' with the NHS lol. I've found that medical secretaries are amazing and will go above and beyond to help, arranging appointments, getting histlogy reports, getting someone to call u back.Every consultant has a medical secretary if you can get their name and talk to them it's usually a good call. And I mean call ,emails don't work as well amd most medical secretaries don't have one anyway. 

  • It’s complicated. 
    My son is English but lived in Scotland in a special needs residential school for a while - he could access primary care and Emergency Care but nothing else.
    We had to drive him back to his home town for any secondary, learning disability or mental health services. 

    All I’m saying is assume nothing. If her official place of residence changes, things might be less complicated.

    Good luck!
    Dave