recurring breast cancer ?

Hi,

I was diagnosed with early breast cancer [left breast] in 2023, i had a lumpectomy and targeted radiotherapy. I have been taking Letrozole since then, with yearly mammograms.

however last year i found a lump in the same breast breast, so had a mammogram, but was worried that as it was in an area that couldnt be detected as it was nearer to my armpit, I was assured there was no evidence of breast cancer visible on the mammogram and there was evidence of fatty / scar tissue.

However now the lump although still there has become what my doctor described as a figure of 8 mass, attached to a more solid mass, and yet another lump in a different area, within the breast.

My general health is not good with aching in my neck, shoulder blade on left side, and collar bone on left side.

blood tests show my Thyroid is seriously underactive even though I take my thyroxine religiously and daily, and my liver function test was bad, so all of these are under review.

I originally went to see my GP as I have had rapid weight loss ; 2.5 stone in 4 months, and mentioned I was still worried about the breast lump, which has got bigger.

I have been referred under the 2 week system, and have an appointment on Monday back at my breast clinic for further investigations, mammograms, ultrasounds, biopsies if needed.

I am literally going out of my head with worry, still going to work, laughing, joking etc... but I have meltdowns when Im on my own...and cant sleep. I really am putting on a brave face...but..what if its come back....what are the survival rates...what if its spread...even after surgery , radiotherapy, hormone treatment....is it possible for it to come back at all...??????...I dont want my family to worry if this could possibly be cysts or something....???.................so I try to brush it under the carpet....

Thank you for being there..x

  • Hi Skylilliexxx,

    A very warm welcome to the forum.

    I am so sorry to hear that you find yourself in this worrying situation. I fully appreciate what you are going through, as I had 2 bouts of breast cancer and 1 of pre-cancer all diagnosed with a year. I had a lumpectomy the first time and a double mastectomy for the second bout. That was 16 years ago and I still lead a busy and fulfilling life. It is impossible to know what this is, until you undergo some tests at the breast clinic, so you have done the right thing by getting this investigated. I am glad to see that your appointment is for Monday, so you don't have much longer to wait.

    When I first investigated my breasts, following surgery, I was told that this was fatty/scar tissue, but when I returned a few months later it was cancer. I am not surprised that you are having meltdowns and sleep problems - you are under a tremendous amount of pressure! You do not say what age you are and what type of breast cancer you had. Some cancers are more aggressive than others and so, more likely to recur. It must be so difficult trying to keep all of this to yourself just now. Do you have one family member or friend who you could confide in? It really would help you to be able to talk to someone.

    I sincerely hope that all goes well for you on Monday and that nothing untoward is found. Please keep in touch and let us know how you get on. We are always here for you.

    Kind regards,

    Jolamine xx

  • Hello and thank you for posting,

    I’m really sorry to hear what you’ve been going through. Having had breast cancer before, it’s completely understandable that finding a new lump would bring up fears that it might have come back.

    Waiting for tests and results can be such an anxious time. Many people describe feeling overwhelmed, with their thoughts going to the worst-case scenario, so it’s no surprise you’re feeling this way. Trying to carry on with everyday life while this uncertainty is there in the background can be exhausting.

    As Jolamine has said, until the tests have been completed and the results are back, no one can say for certain what is causing the lump. Although it’s natural to think of recurrence, there can also be other, less serious explanations, and the tests will help to give you clearer answers.

    I understand you may not want to worry family or friends unnecessarily, but I wonder if there might be one person you feel able to talk to just for support while you’re waiting. You don’t have to go through this on your own, especially over the weekend.

    I really hope you’re able to get some reassurance soon and that your upcoming tests go well. Please do feel free to come back and talk things through anytime.

    If you’d like to speak to one of our nurses, our helpline is available Monday to Friday, 9am to 5pm, on freephone 0808 800 4040.

    Take care,

    Jemma

  • Hi..thank you for your reply.

    Im sorry too to hear that you have been through such a tough time xxx

    I do unload to my friends and they always tell me that they are here for me at any time..I just sometimes feel like Id prefer to hear about their happy news instead of getting them down with what seems to be my constant worries, etc...

    I know....I know...I know... that nothing can be done until Ive had all of the tests etc at the breast clinic on Monday...the 2 week wait has felt like 2 months...its the waiting and convincing yourself that the worst is about to happen ...again...you know how that feels xxx.

    Im 58 by the way so was 55 when diagnosed.

    I come from a family of 4 sisters...none of them have had breast cancer..but we have all had "lumpy breasts" at some point ..so it was a total shock when the oncologist confirmed I had it...

    Sorry, but out of interest when you went back with concerns and was told it was fatty/ scar tissue...were you totally convinced.???

    I absolutely was not convinced last year..but you take their word for it...you just make everyone worry again just to tell them...its fine..its nothing...

    Once again thank you for your kind words, and keep kicking cancers *** !!!!!

    I will keep you updated of course.

    Thankyou for being there.

    XXX

  • Thank you for your reassurance Jemma...

    I am filling my weekend with my beautiful grandchildren.

    Fingers and toes crossed for Monday xxx

  • Hi Skyelillie,

    I agree that it's hard to unload on to friends all of the time and, from my experience, if you do this too much, many start to drift away. This is where the likes of this forum comes into its' own - you can say or ask anything you want to here and none of us will take offence. There is always someone here who understands the misery you are going through and who appreciates how this affects you. I am sure that you've already discovered that the more positive you can be about the outcome, the better your family and friends can cope with you. 

    One of the big fears for anyone with a cancer diagnosis to deal with post-surgery is the fear of recurrence. It's never easy to cope with this, but it does help if you can keep hold of that positive attitude. Yes, the two week wait feels like forever at this stage, but you are almost there. We all tend to give vent to our overactive imaginations too and this can lead us to all sorts of dark places. I am glad to hear that none of your sisters have been affected.

    My concerns started immediately after my initial surgery. The pathology results showed that the surgeon had failed to achieve a clear margin. He claimed that he was aware of this at the time and had taken further tissue away, which was more than enough to achieve a clear margin, but that this tissue would not have shown up in pathology. Previous to my diagnosis, I had lost my mum to secondary breast cancer which had spread to her brain, bone, lungs and liver. She fought the disease for 12 years, before she succumbed. Because of this, I would have been happier to have further surgery, but my surgeon was adamant that he had cleared everything. Like you, I was never convinced! Just under 6 months after my surgery, I found a lump in my other breast. I had changed to another surgeon by then, because my original surgeon, refused to test the other breast, although he was pushing me to have radiotherapy. My argument was that there was no point in having radiotherapy for one breast, whilst he was ignoring the other.  He annoyingly, stated that I was refusing treatment and failed to give the reason for this! He eventually referred me to the chief surgeon in the area, stating this to be the case.

    The new surgeon started dressing me down for refusing treatment, until I pointed out that I was not refusing treatment, but wanted to ensure that both breasts would be treated, if the lesion in the second breast turned out to be cancerous. I stated that we were at an impasse because my original surgeon was refusing to test the other breast, despite having a sizeable lump in it. The new surgeon's attitude changed completely at that stage and he offered to examine me. When he did, he was pretty sure that this was breast cancer. Fortunately, this turned out to be pre-cancer, following my biopsy and we decided to leave this and monitor it closely. The new surgeon offered to take over my care and I accepted. Fast forward another few months, and I found another lump in the original breast. This was situated in the same area as my original tumour was. Unfortunately, this was cancerous, but it was the same type of breast cancer and still Stage 1. I then had a double mastectomy. I did ask whether this was a recurrence of the original cancer, as it seemed quite a coincidence that it was in the same area, but was informed that it was a new primary cancer - maybe I'm just sceptical! 

    For the first year, I took Tamoxifen, but changed to Letrozole for a further 6½ years after the double mastectomy. I still considered having radiotherapy following the second surgery, but the verdict was out on whether or not this would have been of any benefit. I saw two researchers, who specialised in radiotherapy research. One was of the opinion that "it was worth giving it a go", but gave no validation as to why. The other seemed much more informed and advised me that there was no point, as by then 11 months had elapsed, from the time of my original surgery and he stated that, to be effective, it needed to be applied within 3 months from the date of surgery. He gave me a number of other valid reasons for not having it and I finally went with his advice.

    As you say, we're so reliant on getting the correct advice from our surgeons. I must admit that I felt very let down after this experience!

    Sorry for such a long tirade, but it was rather a convoluted story!

    Jolamine xx