Will I be offered surgery again?

Hi I’m a 57yr old female. 
I had a right upper lobectomy in July 2018 due to NSCLC. 

on my first post operative scan they found a  5mm nodule on left upper lobe.
Due to recovering from first surgery,  it was decided a watch n wait surveillance was more appropriate. Iv had active surveillance since then where it had remained stable. I was told I’d be discharged if it was still stable on my last scan October 2022, but then told after the scan I’d be monitored for 2-3 further years with no explanation why.
Fast forward to August 2023 I had another scan early( instead of October) due to 3 bad chest infections and it had grown to 7mm and spiculated.

I was referred back to respiratory specialist for further tests but ended up in hospital with a spine infection.

The consultant treating me thought there could be a connection to my lung nodule/cancer so they treated my infection first, did further tests n ruled out connection, so I have only just seen my respiratory consultant in October.
My discharge papers say my lung tumour is 9mm / 181mm3  and a VDT OF 328 days. I don’t know what this means but would like to know  

Consultant arranged breathing tests and PET-CT and gave me 2 options of referral straight to surgeon or biopsies under general anaesthetic ( due to tumour location)

seeing as there was a delay seeing a consultant due to hospitalisation with spine infection, I thought quickest possible way to treatment would be referral straight to surgeon.
I didn’t have a consultation with respiratory consultant about results of breathing tests or PET-CT so I’m unaware if there’s been any changes in size to previous scans. 

I spoke to my lung nurse who explains that I may be suitable for surgery to remove this new tumour but obviously they won’t take the whole lobe,  and due to its location around the bronchi it will be tricky to remove and may need adjuvant chemo to “mop up” any remaining cancer cells.

Obviously I’ll be grateful to be offered surgery as an  option. 

I had an appointment for 2 November, got cancelled and now seeing surgeon on 16 November  

after having my first NSCLC I was told if there was a reoccurrence it would not be possible to operate but I’d have chemo or another treatment, 

they’re not treating this as a reoccurrence but as a new primary due to fact it was present at time of first tumour and that it had remained stable for 5 years

i also have mild to moderate COPD 

so my questions are :-

Is surgery an option or could I be seeing surgeon for biopsies to determine another treatment, as they haven’t said if this is likely to be the same type of cancer as before ? 

if I have surgery,  what are the risks to me ?

what is my likely prognosis, even with surgery considering this is second time ?

how will surgery impact my breathing afterwards ? 

Is  the surgeon likely to want a biopsy before they proceed with surgery? 

because it hasn’t been graded yet  ( due to no biopsy) I haven’t been given any answers to these questions when I asked them. 

I know the surgeon would be the person to give me these answers,  as best they can, but I’m so confused about what to do if given a choice of treatments due to risks, that I wouldn’t want to delay treatment by coming away to think it over. I’d prefer to have some idea now to make an informed decision without the rush or delay in getting treatment due to waiting times. 

sorry this post is so long. I wanted to give you as much information as I could to help you understand my predicament. 
I appreciate Iv only got 2 weeks to wait to ask them myself but iv wanted to know what will happen since I was told on 7th August and im 3 months down the line and no wiser  

thank you in advance. 

  • Hello and thank you for your post.

    I am sorry to hear about your situation and I will do my best to answer your questions here.

    VDT stands for Volume Doubling Time, the number after it refers to how long it took for the tumour to double in size. 

    Your other questions will be best answered by the surgeon at your next appointment but I will try and throw some light on them.

    You were given two choices: surgery or biopsies. So, I think going straight to surgery is to have the whole tumour removed. This will be sent to the histopathologist to see what it is.  Sometimes this is done, rather than a biopsy. If a cancer is confirmed then depending on the type of cancer it is, its grade (how fast or slow growing it is) as well as other molecular (genetic details) will determine if further treatment (after surgery) is needed. 

    As with all types of surgery and treatment, the risks and benefits will be discussed with you, and you will sign a consent form. Because I am not part of your care team it is difficult to know what could happen. You are having breathing tests to see how your lungs are and if surgery could affect your breathing. The PET CT is looking to see the tumour and if it has spread to lymph nodes or other areas of the body.  We have information about lung cancer surgery that includes the side effects, you can see it on our website here.

    I am afraid until you know more about this and possibly only after surgery will it be known what your prognosis is, or have some information about your risk of recurrence. If you do need further treatment it could help reduce the risk of recurrence. 

    I hope this helps.  Please get back to us if you need any more information or support.  You may find it helpful to talk things through with one of the nurses on our helpline.  The number to call is Freephone 0808 800 4040 and the lines are open from 9am till 5pm Monday to Friday.

    Take care,

    Caroline 

  • Thankyou for your reply

    i understand a bit more now from your response to my questions and really appreciated your help with this. 

    I think I’m more worried that the consultant / surgeon will say it can’t be cured by surgery due to already missing a lobe on right side. 
    iv come to terms with fact I shall have to wait and see what he has to say on Thursday 18th November 

    I wonder if anyone else on here has had cancer on the lung a second time, after surgery for first and what the treatment plan was.
    I appreciate everyone’s situation and cancer is unique but I would be greatful for any response if there is anyone willing to share their experience

    sending positive wishes to all going through difficult times and sending love & healing vibes x

  • Thankyou for your reply

    i understand a bit more now from your response to my questions and really appreciated your help with this. 

    I think I’m more worried that the consultant / surgeon will say it can’t be cured by surgery due to already missing a lobe on right side. 
    iv come to terms with fact I shall have to wait and see what he has to say on Thursday 18th November 

    I wonder if anyone else on here has had cancer on the lung a second time, after surgery for first and what the treatment plan was.
    I appreciate everyone’s situation and cancer is unique but I would be greatful for any response if there is anyone willing to share their experience

    sending positive wishes to all going through difficult times and sending love & healing vibes x