Thyroid cyst and breast cancer

Here is my story. I'm hoping someone can give me some advice!

I went to my G.P about a lump in my neck, thinking I was being a hypochondriac. I explained my paranoia was due to being diagnosed with breast cancer in October last year. He didn't seem overly concerned, but scheduled me for blood tests and referred me for an urgent ultra sound.  He also advised me to inform the hospital (via the breast specialist nurses), which I did.  Two days later the doctor called asking if I'd spoken to the hospital. I told him I had and he asked if they had mentioned me being referred to a Head and neck specialist.  I told him they hadn't.  However, he had received a request to refer me. I'm guessing it had been flagged up by the hospital due to my recent cancer diagnosis.

The hospital called me with an appointment for my ultrasound on 15th August. Because of the 2 week referral, I saw an ENT specialist on Wednesday 3rd August  Just over a week after my G.P appt.  The doctor there told me I had a thyroid nodule and wanted me to have an ultra sound that day and possible a biopsy.  The doctor doing the scan said it was a fluid filled cyst and nothing to worry about.  He didn't  do a biopsy.

The next day I had a clinical letter to me and the G.P saying he was keeping me under the 2 week pathway as it needed further investigation and he had requested an ultrasound and a FNA.

I'm now really confused and stressed. I called the ENT dept and they said that there had been no request for further tests and that doctor was now on annual leave,  but he had requested admin time to review the ultrasound results in September!

I called radiology and they said they hadn't received any further requests for tests and as I'd already had an ultrasound, they would cancel my appointment on 15th August.  
The cyst in my throat feels quite large.  It's uncomfortable to swallow and my throat feels sore and like I've strained my throat.  Having recently had a cancer diagnosis, I am very concerned and really need some clarification.  I'm wondering why I didn't have an FNA when the doctor requested one.   Unless he was expecting the 'further investigation' and FNA to be done at the appointment on 15th August.   What does being kept under 2 week pathway mean? Surely they won't just leave me hanging?

Grateful for any advice!

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  • I'm not a nurse, but I have had thyroid cancer so just going to give some info from my own experience.

    Firstly, thyroid nodules/cysts are common. The vast majority, like over 90%, are benign. The odds are that is the case in your situation. 

    In my experience, the norm is to begin with an ultrasound and then to decide whether or not to do an FNA based on the results of that. In most cases, I believe, they do do the FNA so if they decide to, it doesn't mean cancer is likely, just that the ultrasound didn't rule it out. If they decide not to, it most likely means that the ultrasound has shown features that indicate cancer is so unlikely, it's not even worth checking for it. The ultrasound alone is enough to say it is benign.

    I assume the reason you didn't get an FNA is because the ultrasound results haven't been reviewed yet, so they don't know yet whether or not you need one. The doctor was probably just preparing for the situation where you did, as most people do, but you won't know for sure until you get the results of the ultrasound. I am in Ireland, so this may be different than in the UK, but here sometimes doctors will request things that are precautionary to avoid long waiting lists. Like you are not on the list for an FNA, so if you do need one, you won't be at the back of the list and if you don't, no harm done. Again, this might be different in the UK as it seems like ye're waiting lists are often way shorter (2 weeks compared to um...who knows how long ours are but not two weeks anyway).

    Also, thyroid cancer  is generally very slow developing. So even if you do have it, which the odds are against, it's not like a few weeks or even a few months is likely to make any difference. When I was diagnosed, I probably had it for at least 5 years. At least, now that I know what I am looking for, I can see the nodule in photographs taken 4 or 5 years before. And the doctor and nurses were like "well, it's not going to do anything in the immediate future, but best to take care of it now when you're young and healthy."

    The most common forms of thyroid cancer also have a near 100% survival rate. I think it is 99.8% or something for under 45s with the most common form. With older people and less common forms, it's a bit higher, but other than anaplastic, which is very rare, most are very survivable. And they don't usually use chemotherapy or radiotherapy for it, so even if you did have it, you wouldn't be undergoing ongoing treatment. You'd just have an operation to remove your thyroid.

  • Thank you so much for such a detailed response.

    I think due to recent experience I would just like to know definitively and I think the only way is an FNA. The 2 week pathway is a good thing, but just feel I've been left hanging. Apparently that Dr is now on annual leave and the only request his secretary has had is for some admin time in September to review the ultrasound results, which seems like a long way off.

    I'm in a lot of discomfort with my neck. It's sore and swollen and the lump feels quite large so I'm hoping something can be done even if it's benign. I understand cysts don't usually resolve on their own unfortunately. It came up so quickly and it's all I can think about at the moment, so hoping for some answers from the doctor soon.

    Thanks again for taking the time to respond.

  • It's very possible they'll remove it either way if it is causing you problems. If it's benign, they will probably just remove the part of your thryoid that the nodule is on whereas if it is malignant, they will likely remove all of your thyroid and possibly some lymph nodes. I was told when I had the FNA that if it was benign, I could have it removed anyway, if I wished.

    Sorry to hear it's causing your difficulties.

  • Ok thank you. Hopefully I will find out soon. Hope you're doing ok now.

  • I'm absolutely fine, thanks. Hope you get good news.

  • Hello there

    I am sorry to hear about your situation and appreciate you being left confused and anxious about what is going on.

    I'm afraid no one here can shed any light for you about what has happened as we are not involved in your care.

    I suggest speaking to your GP again to find out if they can chase this up although it may be out of their hands as well if there is no more information to be found from the hospital notes.

    If the symptoms are continuing or worsening the GP may be able to refer you back to the hospital so another assessment and more tests can be done if necessary. 

    Even if the first doctor you saw was concerned if when the doctor carried out the ultrasound it showed a fluid filled cyst with no other concerning features then a biopsy isn't always required.

    It seems the letter from the ENT doctor had been written and sent before the ultrasound findings were made available, which is why there has been some confusion, perhaps.

    It is reassuring the ENT doctor is going to follow up the ultrasound results themselves in a few weeks time but I appreciate sitting and waiting whilst having symptoms must be unsettling.

    Talk to your GP when you can and see what they suggest.

    I hope you know more very soon

    Take care

    Naomi