Frustration hit me for six today-WHY?

Hi all,

Been a while since I started a new discussion and I dont really understand why I feel particularly low today., though it did not get off to a very happy start.  Those who have followed other discussions will know that my Mum is in a care home due to general physical/mental frailty.  I popped in to see her for my usual Sunday visit and filled her in on family news as always.  Not much of a response until after about 20mins she just looked at me and said go home, you are not able to give me what I want  so there is no point  you being here. We have had this type of conversation before but somehow it knocked me for six.  Well I walked back home in the  beautiful sunshine feeling 'useless' (silly I know) and then hubbys opening words were,  she not in talkative mood then!  This comment coming from the man who constantly shutting me out of how he is feeling (he has incurable cancer) and during the past few days he has definitely struggling a little more with  cold/cough symptoms though my suggestion of getting checked out (before his next appointment later this month) gets a negative response.  I  am here for him but he is pushing me away and today I have just felt surplus to requirements because I cant help those who mean something to me. We are 15 months into his cancer journey and its hard enough knowing that this cannot be cured but somehow harder still that I feel like an imposter in my own home.  I have spent the day sitting reading in the garden (he has not ventured out of the arm chair other than to use the bathroom) and the only comment came when I pop indoors to get drinks;lunch;more drinks; dinner when he remarked that the neighbours cat had chosen to sit on my lap!!Think  the cat has picked up that I  needed the company.  Now I am indoors and he sleeps, Sorry for the ramble but needed to get my emotions down. Hoping to feel better tomorrow.  Jules

  • Dear Belle

    Thanks so much for your reply, it means so much to me that you and the others take time out of their own problems to give me that ongoing support. Its not easy when we have a down day but then reality does come back and whats seems huge at the time (and certainly seemed  like that for me on Sunday) was actually just 1 day and I am sure you know only too well that we have to carry on the fight so cannot let that one day spread. Yep we are all human and all have weaknesses and just have to accept that and move on.  I think in a way it is just dealing with the two ends of the spectrum (Mum and Hubby) that brought things to a head this time.  Am sure we all face dilemmas like this and somedays we deal with them and sometimes we dont. I think I spent to much analysing what 'is not being said' by my hubby and I am now trying to focus on getting on with my 'normality' and hoping that he is there for the 'ride' so to speak.

    How are things going with you and your husbands battle at the moment?  I hope your boys' exams are going okay (hated them myself though that was a long long long time ago). Do they know what they want to do next?

    On a much brighter note we received a wedding invitation yesterday (from one of my hubby's workmates/friend) and he straight away said we should go (its in August) so hope is renewed that he is battling on.  Our daughter's second son is due in October too so a lot to be thankful for.

    As to your comment about how I write/respond I think it is how I speak but as I do not get much conversation at home it all spills out on the forum and if it helps then thats a bonus.  Thanks again for your kind words and I hope you have a peaceful day.

    Best wishes Jules

  • Hi Jules,

    I am so sorry that I haven't been on here over the past few days to see this.  I am sorry that you feel low but I know that your inner strength will pull you up again.   I am often amazed that you take the time as others do to reply to my fearsome posts when we all have our own worries/fears/problems going on around so I value your comments and hope that I can be of some value to you in that knowing that your kind words uplift me when you post.

    I know how hard it is to deal with a mother who is declining and sometimes the smallest of comments can make you wonder why it is that you bother and I did not have the added pressure of a partner as you do.   I am sorry that your husband does not talk to you and that he didn't see the irony of his comment, sometimes not speaking can be just as hard I imagine as my saying to my partner I cam frightened I am going to die!  There are no easy answers and no manual on this damn awful journey.   I hope that you being able to voice your frustrations helped even if it was in a small way?

    I am off for my bone scan in a couple of hours and then hopefully after tomorrows round of appointments I can finally start planning on my wedding; muchos excitement

    Take care and sending you a big hug and hopefully some sunshine to enjoy sitting in the garden with.

    Karen

    x x

  • Thanks so much for your kind words Karen. This forum is so supportive even when you feel its just silly to be a wuss when so many others are suffering much greater pressures. At the time it all seemed huge in my mind but now I feel a bit of a fraud. After all most of what is happening is outside my personal control  (if I could change things I would eh). Well  just two days on, the forum friends as usual have come up trumps plus the support of my workmates and I am seeing things more clearly at the moment.  So thanks one and all.my bouncebackability is in progress(again) and maybe I am stronger for having been down and dealt with it, who knows.  As we all know the  battles are there to be fought and most days we are up to the task.

    Karen,hope your bone scan and appointments go well and you must start sharing all your wedding plans with us too - such an uplifting time for you and the family and the closer it gets the more exciting it must be. Long may the sun shine on us all. Its about time we had a spell of good weather.  Take care of yourself and thanks for your support.Best wishes Jules 

  • Hi Jules,

    I am very pleased on two counts. One is that your feeling better for I have never heard you that low as you were the other day, despite all that life throws at you, you have always just got on with all the problems facing you.So for you to start this thread off like you did was totally not the normal you.

    The other thing that has pleased me is how so many people have replied to you as we were all very concerned. That just goes to show how well liked and respected you are on this forum. As someone said your responses to others is always well thought out and shows the caring, kind person you are.

    Let me just say, Jules you are definitely not a wuss, nor are you a fraud. I love that word you made up; bouncbackability. It's definitely one to include in the next Oxford Dictionary

    Please take care, enjoy your time in the garden, Brian

  • Hi Jules,

    I have just seen your message, and made sure I read through to the end before replying as was hoping to read that you were now feeling a bit better.  So first of all, sorry for not replying sooner, but I am glad you are feeling a bit brighter now.  As Brian said, I had never heard you seem so low on here previously - having read what happened though, it is not a surprise, sounds as though the two major worries collided on the same day and sent you off course a bit.  But one day of feeling low compared to the number of days you show incredible strength and courage is nothing to feel bad about, apart from of course how it makes you feel at the time.  Both events are upsetting and worrying, and, you say yourself, are out of your control, and because you are a such a caring and compassionate person, you would do anything to change them.    I'm guessing that most of the time you accept that you can't, but then occasionally the frustration of that kicks in, particularly when those you are worrying about don't maybe recognise the impact their situation is having on you.  Having been the relative, as opposed to the patient, I can't really explain that, but wonder if part of it is trying to keep things normal.  And of course a little bit of denial....

    Anyway, I don't want to dwell too much on how you were feeling a couple of days ago, and instead hopw the sun is shining where you are as well and that hopefully that is lifting your spirits further.

    Take care Jules, and I hope you will take this in the spirit it is intended, but don't hesitate to remind your hubby what a wonderfully caring wife he has - I know everyone on here will vouch for that (and am sure he knows anyway!)  Sending you a big hug, Catherine xx

  • Thanks Brian,

    I think I have just go to accept that everything in the garden is not always going to be rosy. Luckily I inherited (well I think I did) my Dad's sense of humour/character.  If I had been more like my Mum I would be sinking I am sure.  However her love of reading and words (when she was well) were also a big part of my upbringing and though she worked full time and I had a childminder this is probably where I get my more chatty side. Also that far back - ha ha - we did not have all the gizmos to keep us amused and we often just sat around the table talking or playing board games (my I feel old now). These days that only happens when we entertain (rarely).

    Thank you for your  kind words and support as usual and its a credit to the people that use the forum that most of us keep our marbles when life throws  a tripwire in the works so to speak.

    As an aside I think my hubby had a moment where his sense of humour logged back in today.  We have been getting many cold calls recently on the phone and today when he answered it, the man on the other end was talking about him having had a car accident recently (not true) so instead of hanging up, he said that was right he had. He was straight away connected to the claims dept and asked a load of questions.  They finally asked who else was involved to which my hubby replied 'well it was not human, it was a meteor that hit the road in front of me. For the first time ever the cold caller hung up first!!!!

    Have been reading (again) in the garden and with the sunscreen on my face and beautiful goldfinches on my feeders feel more at peace today. Hope it lasts.  Take care and  thanks again. Jules

  • Hiyer jules, My Husband has now been refered to a further specialist, one who deals in this kind of specific cancer, so if he's the 'man' thats were we will go. However this is about 120 miles away so we will have to see about family rooms etc. He goes for his initial consultation on the 12th, but what we have been told/ forwarned by the current specialist is it is a aggresive type of cancer, that is touching several organs, but cannot be specific till we get in there. Believe it or not from the outside things are carrying as normal, my Mother inlaw turned 80, had a spin in a limo an threw a big knees up, with champagne to boot. It was really lovely.... and I wanted to cry BIG style. As she knows her Hansome Son is seriously ill, but she wore a smile, but I know her heart must of been breaking.It was so emotional, I felt I was looking through a camera lense as though it was all a dream...   This wretched disease ruins lives.

    So for now sat in the sun, sending myself crazy with what if's and wondering how to cope with the next round of cr*p. (Pardon me for swearing)

    Thank God I found this forum.Take it easy jules from one sad wife to another. Belle x                       

  • Hi Catherine

    Thanks for taking time out of your busy preparations (yes keeping up to date with your own thread) to offer you support to me (and others on here). Its not always easy keeping on the brave face as you know only too well and I was thrown by how hard it was on Sunday but as you can tell have moved on to better days (have to accept as you rightly say that cant change things).

    Yes the sun is shining in Middlesex and as I dont work on Tuesdays have spent the day lazing on a lounger watching the wild birds and yet popping in regularly to make sure the other half has drinks supply. He does not like sitting outside and spends the day on computer playing card games!!

    I do hope the celebration of your dear Mum's life on Thursday passes well and it sounds like you have plenty of support but am sure it will be an emotional time for your whole family.  You have shown great dignity and love in the past few weeks and done your Mum enormously proud. Your grieving process is just beginning and no one knows how long this will last but one thing is for sure you will carry her in  your heart always.

      My Dad passed over 5 years ago last March and I found relief at the time of his death because he was, he told me. ready to be released from the pain of cancer and surprisingly at the time My Mum was awesome in the way she coped. They had discussed everything beforehand and we carried out his wishes which gave us great comfort.  Now I find I think of him often but always with a smile because he had a great character and he said a second chance of life after being wounded (lost his leg) during the War.  As I type this I can almost  feel him watching over me (and I never thought I would be saying that!!).

    Catherine, take care of yourself and my thoughts and hugs come virtually to you both for your days ahead and for the way you have offered your support to me and others in our times of need. IT MEANS SO MUCH.

    Best wishes Jules

  • Hi Belle

    Thanks for sharing your updated news. How hard this is and I like you admire your Mum in Law for 'putting on the glitz'. Turning 80 is wonderful (my Mum now 87!!) and am sure that normality will help you all on difficult days.  This forum is truly a lifesaver I am sure for so many of us facing cancer journeys whether its as sufferers/carers/friends/colleagues etc etc and the support is amazing.  Hope the round trip you will have to make wil not prove too tiring but it will be good for you to be able to talk to someone who knows this specific cancer and give you first class information (though suspect you will both be filled with some trepidation on the 12th). We feel like this every time we are building towards the next 'check up'. My hubby has his next one on 25th all being well till then. For now he just keeps taking the painkillers which do seem to be still working so am taking some positives from that.  His cancer is also described as aggressive but can also be slow growing (seems to also depend on general health of sufferer) so really can only take guidance and hope for the best..  Take care of yourself too and will keep things virtually crossed for you both.  Jules x

  • Hi Jules,

    Like you Jules, our lawn needed mowing today and my wife insisted on doing part of it as she said she needed the exercise. So you had the spectacle of me being chased around the garden by my wife and the lawn mower. She more than got her own back todayJules.

    We have also had a lot of cold callers recently. I had one yesterday where someone with an accent that was not English tried to tell me I have had a loan last year for some home improvements and I was die some money back. I got quite annoyed as he wouldn't accept his information was wrong. He had finally hung up after I told him where to go. I realized what he was really after was my bank details so they could supposedly offer this refund. So many scams about at the moment. I like your husbands reply and good for him, that made me laugh.

    I am glad you have had some quality time in your garden today and hope you will be able to have more time like this as the weather looks good for the next few days.

    Rather than thanking me, it's I who should be thanking you for your responses to me over the past few months Jules.

    Please take care, sending best wishes to you, Brian