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Hey all, im new here and having been doing some research into the budwig diet. As my auntie has terminal cancer and has been told by doctors she dosnt have much longer to live...
From what i have reasearched, i have read that - Dr Budwig was born in Germany in 1908. She passed away in 2003 at the
age of 95. She has been referred to as a top European Cancer Research
Scientist, Biochemist, Blood Specialist, German Pharmacologist, and
Physicist. Dr Budwig was a seven-time Nobel Prize nominee. She also had a 90% success rate of curing cancer and other terminal illnesses using a special diet that contains among other things, lots of cottage cheese and flaxseed oil...
More info here, I found this to be a very interesting read. - http://cancertutor.com/Cancer/Budwig.html
Has anyone else here heard of this, or maybe even tried it? And what sort of results did you find from trying this budwig diet? From what i have read so far it seems very promising, but im quite sceptical about things i find on the internet. any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Have you tried searching this forum for details of the diet?
I seem to remember there was a topic on this about a year ago, which just seemed to run and run.
I'd still be wary of those stats though..90% is a pretty hefty claim.
I wish you all the best in your quest for answers.
I have looked into it, I can't believe it would be so easy to cure cancer, or we would all be cancer free by now. I think that any healthy diet, and particularly a diet like this that makes you feel well, and PERHAPS may stop the cancer attacking so agressively, can't do any harm. I asked a consultant only yesterday, he smiled and said, don't spend a fortune on it but by all means try it.
I have passed the information onto my Brother who is the one with cancer and he is going to try it. Particularly a recipe on you tube.
I have read about it and as I love cottage cheese I have cottage cheese and flaxseed almost every day.I think as long as it is nothing too bizzare and expensive it can only help.Eating healthily may not cure the cancer but it helps your body to be strong enough to fight off the side effects of treatments and infections.
Best wishes to your auntie,she must be proud to have you looking out for her.
I'd personally be wary about the 90% success rate claim simply because if that were true there would be virtually no cancer cases.
I do believe that eating a healthy diet, rich in nutrients and key foods can be a good thing - mainly because if your immune system is functioning as well as it's able to then the body can fight as well as it's able to......... I do use Flax oil daily in my diet, along with other supplements and since doing this I've felt better in myself however it's important to add that I'm NOT cured, I still have cancer and although I'm feeling better in myself, it's still there.
It would be good if your Aunt could eat healthy foods but don't invest tons of money in anything that promises huge success rates. Nothing wrong with getting her to eat some cottage cheese and flax oil every day though - just as long as you're not depending on it and ignoring other advice.
Wishing her all the very best,
If something as simple as changing your diet could cure 90% of cancers. Then its not surprising at all that general public haven't heard to much about it... as pharmacology is the 2nd biggest industry in the world run by private corporations that are driven by profit. And healthy people make them no $$. So if something as simple as changing your diet can help you cure cancer. then they'l do whatever they can to stop that information becoming public as they cant make money off it, and would lose millions and millions in different cancer treating drugs that would all become obselete. Now im not saying that this diet can work miracles(though it would be nice), but i dont really trust pharmacological companies.
A good example of this sort of thing happening is with people who suffer from depression. If you go to a Dr and tell them that your depressed, they will prescribe you with anti depressants. A lot of which can actualy make you think more suicidal thoughts in the first month your taking them(which is the last thing you want a depressed person thinking), along with loads of other nasty side effects. Unfortunitly Doctors never tell patients about 5-HTp, which is a naturally occuring substance so pharmacological companies cant patent it. Threfore are unable to make $$ off it. It has no side effects, starts working almost immediately on almost every type of depression and is available from most health stores in NZ. Yet, is it commonly known that it treats depression better than almost every drug out there...? No, even though there have been numerous scientific tests proving its effectiveness.
I think you have come up with some good points there. Worth trying, although I can't imagine many cancer patients taking the risks of just trying the diet and no medical treatment. Perhaps if people tried this kind of thing before having cancer then who knows the benefits they may reap. Anyway no harm in trying it, I will be doing this and I haven't got cancer, my Brother with the cancer if going to try it. He will be having medical treatment though.
You say if something with a 90% success rate could cure cancer it's not surprising we've not heard about it due to the pharma companies and their profits. In one sense I agree with some of what you're saying HOWEVER if any diet could provide a clear 90% success rate then we WOULD all be aware of it as we'd all be curing ourselves and then coming on here to tell everyone else to do the same.
Fact is that diet sometimes seems to help some people and sometimes seems to have no effect whatsoever on others. I FEEL better on mine but I still have cancer.
Farrah Fawcett Major invested tons of money researching and trying different things before she died, as did Karon Keeting (Gloria Hunnifords daughter) and Patrick Swayze - none survived. They had the vast unlimited funds to invest and the contacts but this horrible disease still got them. I don't think any of us should promote any diet as having a 90% success rate attached due to the false hope this could raise. Just my opinion though.
I hope your Aunt does well on the Budwig and maybe you'd come back and let us know in the future.
All the best,
First of all I would like to say I am sorry to hear that you have this dreaded disease. I wish you every success in your treatment, and prognosis.
My Partner has non small cell Lung cancer, it has spread to her chest, Liver and rib, having had chemo, which in the begining showed to be working, but had to be lowered to a lesser dose as it was affecting the kidneys. she had radio therapy on the rib to help with the pain, this has worked great and the pain has gone
Then the next line of treatment was Tarceva, this was given for 2 months, we found out last thursday the Tarceva did not work and a couple of other glands in the chest have been affected by the cancer, this was dreadfully disappointing, we have been in bits since last week, but at the same time we are remaining strong and positive, My partner is now on a months course of steroids to build her up, as they want to offer her another form of chemo, but at the moment she would not be strong enough to take it, she is now eating well, and I am giving her "build up" fortified soups and milk shakes.
We are told this new treatment helps one in ten, this is not good odds, but we have to consider a quality of life, as well as weigh up if this treatment will work, or just make her ill and debilitated, with nothing at the end of it. Of course we are desperate for any treatment to work, and it is a terrifying time.
I was reading about the diets that are claimed to cure cancer, and the pharmaceutical companies who would stand to lose if there was a natural cure for cancer.
We have already seen on the news that somthing as simple as vitamin B can help in dementia, and possibly be ground breaking in the treatment of altzimers.
I was passed this website by an email friend, http://www.cancerfungus.com/ this Oncologist in Italy belies that there is a natural enemy to beat cancer, called Bicarbonate Sodium.
Of course the Drug companies would stand to lose Billions if not Trillions if there was a natural and simple cure for cancer, But we must be careful, and Like you I did think of the hollywood stars who have searched the Globe for a cure, Like Farrah Fawcett Majors etc.. But could it be possible that this Doctor was so discredited that it was not worth trying? never the less we must trust that medical treatments have worked and there has been successes with conventional treatments.
Next thursday on ITV the tonight programme investigates that we are on the horizon of ground breaking treatments in curing cancer.
I wish everyone, every success in a healthier cancer free Life.
I have watched the video's on the link you kindly provided (apart from the 1st part which is currently 'broken' and showing 'try later' message - which I will do).
My feelings on this are mixed really - I'm concerned that this Doctor hasn't been taken seriously by anyone in the field of Cancer (apart from one Doctor that cured his cancer by following this method)....I'm concerned that he has served a prison sentence for the accidental death of a patient....I'm concerned that his method is simple enough to have been tried and disproved or proved - but hasn't been.
Time and time again we hear the argument that the pharmaceutical companies have much to lose (billions) BUT they would soon cash in on any new cures..... So for instance if this method that costs literally pence worked, they would have investigated it by now - patented it, refused to tell us exactly what's in it and would be selling it as the replacement for Chemo knowing it works and charging the earth without telling anyone it was purely bicarb. .......It would be cheaper for them to produce, giving them a larger if not massive profit margin and therefore there is NO reason for them to keep producing the more expensive Chemo....do you see my argument? It would be in their interests to find a medicine that actually worked and could be cheaply produced. They will never be out of pocket - they'd make sure of that..So I just don't buy the argument that it's better for them to 'hide' the cure.
However, in the case of your partner where no-one seems to be able to offer you decent odds - if I was in that position would I contact him for more information? Yes, possibly.....Would it work? Who knows......Maybe, maybe not - but given the current odds of 10% that you've been given, I'd be tempted to try anything.
What I did like about this 'theory' is that it's not involving spending lots and lots of money on a 'quick fix' cure. However I'm not sure that it's entirely safe as he's been sentenced for accidental death already......but with the odds heavily stacked against you, if it did cause harm then that's something a person would need to be able to accept before trying it I suppose.
I feel for you and your partner because I can so understand the need to try something, anything.....I've been banging my head against the wall for months now trying to find an alternative to the surgery that I have to have - I feel the frustration in your post and I wish you could find the miracle cure, sincerely.
If you want to chat giving your partner's immune system a good boost you can email me. I take numerous supplements which have made me 'feel' extremely healthy and I do wish I'd known about these before my treatment with Chemo/Radiotherapy took place. I feel my body would have been much better able to deal with being battered by these methods if I'd prepared it first........They are NOT cures for cancer though, they are immune support supplements and foods.
Good luck and sending best wishes to you and your partner
Hi there Dizzie
Looking at all these different alternative treatments is mind boggling, and to try to decipher if there is any truth in them is even more baffling, some of them do make some sense, but some are just a nonsense.
My Partner is not debilitated, she is getting on with what she can but does get tired, I believe there is a lot to be said about boosting the immune system, as this is the bodies best defence the stronger the immunity the stronger your body can fight, letting the cancer struggle to progress as it it would like, so the longer we can keep the cancer at bay, we wil be giving ourselves time, and time brings new treatments, so I will be glued to the telly next Thursday for the Tonight programme on ITV 1. I am giving her fortified Build up milk shakes, and soups as well as good healthy meals.
But I am interested to what vitamins you have found to be of great value to you? I realy, realy, hope that your treatment is a success, and that you fight it all the way in to remission. Your little kitten looks so cute and adorable, I have two cats, Flossey 15, and Mo-Mo 7, and a hansom dog age 4, called Milo, a cross collie and flat coated retriever. I look forward to hearing from you.
Kindest Regards, and warmest wishes to you, and your family
Dizzie I have set out my email adress wrong , it should read xxx
Will email you later this evening for a chat.
All the best,
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Dr. Budwig published her study, but never conducted medical trials to determine cancer cure rates. If the Budwig’s diet/lifestyle cured cancer, by now, thousands of Budwig cancer centers would exist all over the world and boast their PROVEN cure rates. Hospitals would have incorporated the diet into their treatments and improved upon it. Research into cancer treatments and the search for cures would have stopped. To believe big phama wants people to die so they can sell expensive, poisonous cancer cures is ludicrous. Existing cancer centers include nutrition as part of their treatment and if ANY diet cured cancer, the developer of that diet would HAVE: a Nobel prize, be world famous and extremely wealthy—a patentable cure or otherwise.
Yes, there are Budwig cancer centers and one claims a cure rate of 80%-93% if followed properly (nice wording, gives them an easy excuse—you just didn’t follow it properly). No peer reviewed studies, just testimonials and claims that people are cancer free from what they’ve learnt from the Budwig center. If they had even a 25% PROVEN cure rate—they’d broadcast it to the world, but they don’t; instead, you get clever wording, some helpful information and unproven claims. Here’s a link to one: http://www.budwigcenter.com/
The claims that Dr. Budwig was nominated for a Nobel Prize “X” number of times is not evidence that her diet cures cancer. Anyone can be nominated for a Nobel Prize and nominees are sealed for 50 years. Go to the Nobel Prize website and you won’t find Dr. Budwig’s name anywhere. You can nominate yourself for a Nobel Prize and then honestly claim you're a Nobel Prize nominee.
The Budwig cancer diet is a case of, “what the believer believes, the prover proves.” You can find testimonials galore on the web about the “benefits” of the Budwig diet. Why? Because of the good nutrition in flax seeds (alpha linoleic acid) and because the diet excludes many toxic foods from the body; sugar, processed meat, white flour, etc,. Anyone's health would improve after removing these so-called, "foods," but a cure for cancer—IT IS NOT! Does it offer potential health benefits? Help detox the body and help cure…? Maybe, but there are NO published studies to be found in ALL of the peer reviewed medical literature claiming that the Budwig diet cures cancer.
Dr. Andrew Weil has devoted his life to integrative medicine, aka, established medicine and alternative medicine that works. He has a degree in medicine and biology from Harvard and he could only find four (4) studies in all the published medical literature on the Budwig diet and none supported a cure for cancer. Here’s his educated opinion about the Budwig diet: http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QAA400906/Budwig-Cure-for-Cancer.html
You’ll also find information on Dr. Weil’s website about, Dr. Bruce Ames, one of America’s most respected chemists with over 35 years of cancer research to his credit and information about his recent research on the combination of; Alpha-linoleic acid, Acetyl l-carnitine, Biotin and Calcium may work synergistically with a nutrient rich diet to help protect against developing cancer, again, not a cure. But Dr. Ames and Dr. Weil don’t make the claim of a cure or protection. Dr. Ames performed research that supports protection and published his findings. For now, they both take the supplements under the name, “Juvenon” (all proceeds to charity) but they don’t know for sure if the aforementioned combination can actually protect against cancer. Dr. Bruce Ames continues his methodical research and continues to publish his findings--and that’s good science. He does not endorse the Budwig diet as a cure for cancer, but the power of Alpha-linolic acid (found abundently in flaxseed and chia seeds) to help repair cells and support the immune system is the cornerstone of his reseach and Dr. Budwig's.
Had Dr. Budwig conducted controlled studies and published the cure rates in a peer reviewed journal—The Budwig diet as a cancer cure would have been confirmed or debunked many decades ago; but she didn't and nor has anyone else. If you’re a true believer in the Budwig diet, do a study and publish the results—the cost of the study would be fairly inexpensive and if it cures as little as 25% of all cancers--or hopefully the 80%-93%, as some claim—then you’re on your way to Norway, fame and fortune.